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Kwanzaa: A Holiday From The FBI (Trent call your office, Christians are down memory hole) Coulter
anncoulter.org ^ | 12/24/2002 | ANN COULTER

Posted on 12/24/2002 2:16:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Edited on 12/24/2002 3:40:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

TRENT LOTT, call your office: Apparently some parts of American history can be sanitized and forgotten. Earlier this week, President George Bush issued a formal White House proclamation celebrating Kwanzaa.

Sounding like a "Saturday Night Live" send-up, Bush praised the "seven principles" of Kwanzaa, "known as Nguzo Saba," and discussed the "early harvest gatherings called 'matunda ya kwanza,' or first fruits." He included the usual claptrap about how Kwanzaa celebrates "traditional African values" and "uniting people of diverse backgrounds and beliefs."

It is a fact that Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 by a black radical FBI stooge, Ron Karenga, aka Dr. Maulana Karenga. Karenga was a founder of United Slaves, a violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers and a dupe of the FBI.

In what was probably ultimately a foolish gamble, during the madness of the '60s the FBI encouraged the most extreme black nationalist organizations in order to discredit and split the left. The more preposterous the organization, the better. Karenga's United Slaves was perfect. In the annals of the American '60s, Karenga was the Father Gapon, stooge of the czarist police.

Despite modern perceptions that blend all the black activists of the '60s, the Black Panthers did not hate whites. They did not seek armed revolution. Those were the precepts of Karenga's United Slaves. United Slaves were proto-fascists, walking around in dashikis, blowing away Black Panthers and adopting invented "African" names. (That was a big help to the black community: How many boys named "Jamal" currently sit on death row?)

Whether Karenga was a willing dupe, or just a dupe, remains unclear. Curiously, in a 1995 interview with Ethnic NewsWatch, Karenga matter-of-factly explained that the forces out to get O.J. Simpson for the "framed" murder of two whites included: "the FBI, the CIA, the State Department, Interpol, the Chicago Police Department" and so on. (He further noted that "the evidence was not strong enough to prohibit or eliminate unreasonable doubt" -- an interesting standard of proof.) Karenga should know about FBI infiltration.

In the category of the-gentleman-doth-protest-too-much, back in the '70s, Karenga was quick to criticize rumors that black radicals were government-supported. When Nigerian newspapers claimed that some American black radicals were CIA operatives, Karenga leapt in to denounce the idea publicly, saying, "Africans must stop generalizing about the loyalties and motives of Afro-Americans, including the widespread suspicion of black Americans being CIA agents."

By now, there is no question that the FBI fueled the bloody rivalry between the Panthers and United Slaves. In one barbarous outburst, Karenga's United Slaves shot Black Panther Al "Bunchy" Carter on the UCLA campus. Karenga himself served time, a useful stepping-stone for his current position as a black studies professor at California State University at Long Beach.

Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa praise collectivism in every possible arena of life -- economics, work, personality, even litter removal. ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive to improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a village to raise a police snitch.

When Karenga was asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy underlying Kwanzaa, from "classical Marxism," he essentially explained that under Kawaida, we also hate whites. While taking the "best of" -- I'm not making this up -- "early Chinese and Cuban socialism," Kawaida practitioners believe one's racial identity "determines life conditions, life chances and self-understanding." There's an inclusive philosophy for you.

Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming invention of the Least-Great Generation. In 1974, Patricia Hearst, kidnap victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her alleged captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one of the SLA's revolutionary principles: Umojo, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba and Imani -- precisely the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa.

With his Kwanzaa greetings, President Bush is saluting the intellectual sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army, killer of housewives and police. He is saluting the founder of United Slaves, who were such lunatics that they shot Panthers for not being sufficiently insane -- all with the FBI as their covert ally. It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglica," and the president of the United States issued a presidential proclamation honoring the synthetic holiday. People might well stand up and take notice if that happened.

Kwanzaa was the result of a '60s psychosis grafted onto black community. Liberals have become so mesmerized by multicultural nonsense that they have forgotten the real history of Kwanzaa and United Slaves -- the violence, the Marxism, the insanity. Most absurdly, for leftists anyway, is that they have forgotten the FBI's tacit encouragement of this murderous black nationalist cult founded by the father of Kwanzaa.

Now the "holiday" concocted by an FBI dupe is honored in a presidential proclamation calling it a "holiday that promotes mutual understanding." A movement that started approximately 2,000 years before Kwanzaa leaps well beyond merely "promot(ing) mutual understanding" to say we are all equal before God. It is so inclusive, people get mad at it. That movement is also celebrated this week. But the Christian leaders at the forefront of the abolitionist and civil rights movements have been washed down the memory hole.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; buchananbuttboy; bushbasher; coulternolovetlb; hittingtheeggnog; karenga; kwanzaa; presidentbush; trentlott
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1 posted on 12/24/2002 2:16:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: All
SLAM AND RIGHT ON, ANN ISN'T FOOLED!!!!!!!
2 posted on 12/24/2002 2:17:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Still at it? Dont you have anything else to do?
3 posted on 12/24/2002 2:18:41 PM PST by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
Like I said Ann never said Trent should of stepped down. She isn't a sheeple.
4 posted on 12/24/2002 2:19:52 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Kwanzaa is silly Afro Marxist tripe in Christian dress. President Bush is our first conservative multiculturalist as President.
5 posted on 12/24/2002 2:20:06 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Fred Mertz; sinkspur
bttt
6 posted on 12/24/2002 2:22:54 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: goldstategop
strike 'conservative' - it makes no sense
7 posted on 12/24/2002 2:23:59 PM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: dirtboy; Nick Danger
Earlier this week, President George Bush issued a formal White House proclamation celebrating Kwanzaa.

Sounding like a "Saturday Night Live" send-up, Bush praised the "seven principles" of Kwanzaa, "known as Nguzo Saba," and discussed the "early harvest gatherings called 'matunda ya kwanza,' or first fruits." He included the usual claptrap about how Kwanzaa celebrates "traditional African values" and "uniting people of diverse backgrounds and beliefs."

8 posted on 12/24/2002 2:24:38 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
hehehe... the Dems aren't the only ones to get loopy around The Season. ;-)
9 posted on 12/24/2002 2:26:55 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: All
With his Kwanzaa greetings, President Bush is saluting the intellectual sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army, killer of housewives and police. He is saluting the founder of United Slaves, who were such lunatics that they shot Panthers for not being sufficiently insane -- all with the FBI as their covert ally. It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglica," and the president of the United States issued a presidential proclamation honoring the synthetic holiday. People might well stand up and take notice if that happened.

ANN COULTER
10 posted on 12/24/2002 2:27:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
President Bush is saluting the intellectual sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army

LOL! Naivete thy name is "compassionate conservatism".

11 posted on 12/24/2002 2:27:53 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: TLBSHOW
President Bush should have let it slide by without comment. Who cares about Kwanzaa? I doubt many outside the liberal segregrationist Congressional Black Caucus know much about it.
12 posted on 12/24/2002 2:28:15 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: TLBSHOW
Ann neglected to say what Karenga did to get busted. He is a convicted felon; his crime was to "kidnap" (hold against their will) two black female followers and torture them. No wonder the CA colleges were dying to hire him. /sarcasm
13 posted on 12/24/2002 2:28:48 PM PST by Libertina
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks for the post!
14 posted on 12/24/2002 2:29:08 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: TLBSHOW
Well when David Duke creates a synthetic holiday for white people I'm sure we can count on a liberal President acknowledging it by Proclamation.
15 posted on 12/24/2002 2:29:50 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: anncoulteriscool
Merry Christmas...........
16 posted on 12/24/2002 2:29:51 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Why don't you take out the 4th and 5th paragraphs - they are not part of the latest article, and are distracting.
17 posted on 12/24/2002 2:29:55 PM PST by Endeavor
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To: Libertina
This Karenga dude is head of the Black Studies Department at California State University Long Beach. One wonders what he thinks of being honored by a President who is beneath his notice.
18 posted on 12/24/2002 2:31:41 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: TLBSHOW
Kwanzaa Links

Racial Revelry - TooGood Reports

Did You Have A Happy Kwanzaa? - WorldNetDaily

Celebrate Reality - Not Fantasy - Tampa Tribune

Kwanzaa Quandary - Tucson Weekly

We Wish You A Phony Festival - Report (Canadian Magazine)

So This Is Kwanzaa - Newsmax.com

Ann Coulter on Kwanzaa - TownHall.Com

Mona Charen on Kwanzaa - Jewish World Review

Tony Snow on Kwanzaa - Jewish World Review

The TRUE Spirit of Kwanzaa - The New American magazine

The Story of Kwanzaa - The Dartmouth Review

The Truth About Kwanzaa - A Christian Viewpoint

A Momentary Loss of Reason - Binghamton Review

Kwanzaa & The White House - NY Post Editorial, 1997 (Freerepublic.com thread)

Michael Savage on Kwanzaa - NewsMax

Happy Kwanzaa - FrontPage Magazine - Link may not work, if it doesn't click here for the Free Republic thread.

I'm Dreaming of a White Kwanzaa - LewRockwell.com - Link may not work, if it doesn't click here for the Free Republic thread.

Letter to Editor - Ypsilanti Courier

What is Kwanzaa? - File Passed Around On Internet About Kwanzaa

Happy Kwanzaa by Patrick S. Poole


Kwanzaa Religious Connection:

Anti-Christian? Anti-Christmas?

Karenga himself says that Kwanzaa is an "oppositional alternative" to Christianity - which he calls "spookism" and "eurocentric". He claims the Bible is myth and rejects Jesus Christ.

"...Kwanzaa is not an imitation, but an alternative, in fact, and oppositional alternative to the spookism, mysticism and non-earth based practices which plague us as a people . . . "
pg 14, Kwanzaa: Origin, Concepts, Practice. 1977

Karenga defines "spookism" as "belief in spooks who threaten us if we don't worship them and demand we turn over our destiny and daily lives..." p 27. Kawaida Theory

. Of Christianity and Judaism and their beliefs, Karenga says this about such "myths":

"...it is a simplistic and often erroneous answer to existential ignorance fear, powerlessness and alienation. An example is the Hebrew myth of the six-day creation and the tower of Babel, or Christian myths of resurrection, heaven and hell;"
Kawaida Theory, p 23.

"...it often denies and diminishes human worth, capacity, potential and achievement. In Christian and Jewish mythology, humans are born in sin, cursed with mythical ancestors who've sinned and brought the wrath of an angry God on every generation's head. ... If a mythical being has done, does and will do everything, what's our relevance and role in the world?"
Kawaida Theory. p 24.

Spookism, on the other hand, is intense emotional commitment to non-human-centered principles and practices which place humans at the mercy of invisible and omnipotent forces and thus, deny the right and capacity of humans to shape reality and their future according to their own needs and desires."
Kwanzaa: Origin, Concepts, Practice,pp 44-45.

Temple of Kawaida/Seba

Ron Everett (aka. Maulana Karenga) signs himself (as late as 1999) as the Seba Maulana Karenga of the Temple of Kawaida in a document prepared by him and submitted to the CLUE organization (Clergy and Laity United for Economic Justice) of which he is a member of the Advisory Committee. This document can be found here.

CLUE, by the way, is a leftist organization which fights against welfare work requirements and for a "living wage." They are also an "Endorsing Member" of the Coalition for World Peace - an anti-war organization who is against the current war against the terrorists behind the September 11th attack. They have been involved with several of the anti-war protests. Two people calling themselves a "Seba" of the Temple of Kawaida are listed as a signatories to a letter supporting a piece of pro-African legislation. The letter starts "We are a group of religious leaders..." and the signatures include Pastors and other religious leaders of a number of Los Angeles area churches. The document can be found here. Look for Seba Chimbuko Tembo, Temple of Kawaida, Los Angeles, California and Seba Tulibu Jadi, Temple of Kawaida, Los Angeles, California.

In his own publication called Harrambee Notes, the official publication of his still-operating US gang, he is listed as the Seba Dr. Maulana Karenga of the Temple of Kawaida (Maat). The article reports of Karenga's reading of Karenga-published Selecti ons From The Husia which is subtitled "Sacred Wisdom of Ancient Egypt."

Again, in the same publication (different issue) a scheduled ceremony is listed as being officiated by Here's the schedule entry:

Sunday September 1 3:00pm AKIKA: A Kawaida African Rite of Passage.
The cultural rite of bringing into community, Taraja Jasiri (Audacious Hope), a woman-child of the House of Mshinda and Ajabisha Nyofu.
Officiant: Seba Dr. Maulana Karenga, Temple of Kawaida (Maat)

In a Publisher's Note in a catalog listing for a book penned by Karenga called Kawaida Theory and published by Karenga-owned publisher called The University of Sankore Press, Karenga is listed as "Seba (moral teacher) in the ancient Egyptian Maatian (Kawaida) tradition". Seba is supposedly an ancient African word for "Wisdom". The Official Kwanzaa Website which Karenga owns and operates, makes reference to "the ancient Egyptian Seba Ptahhotep in a 1997 Founder's Annual Kwanzaa Message penned by Karenga.

I'm still exploring the religious aspects of this word, but the evidence here shows that Seba is an honorific given to a religious leader who supposedly possesses wisdom.

What is Maat?

According to Karenga, Maat is the foundation for Kawaida which is the basis for Kwanzaa. So Maat -> Kawaida -> Kwanzaa.

Karenga defines Maat as:

"the fundamental principle of the divine, natural and social order established by Ra (God) at the time of creation Karenga,The Book of Coming Forth By Day, Los Angeles: University of Sankore Press l990, p.23" </blockquote

Maat is an integral part of the Eqyptian Religion as seen here. To quote:




Maat





Maat was the first idea that was separated from


the primeval nonexistence when the world was created. By the idea


of Maat the basic laws for creation and structuring of the universe


was formed.











        "Maat is eternal


      and has not changed since


  the time when she came into being" 





                                            (Ptahotep)





The concept of Maat is the focal point in the philosophy of the


ancient Egyptians. It pervades thinking on all levels of existence:


the cosmological level, the ideology of kingship, the social level


and the individual level. It is too vast a topic to be more than


touched upon briefly here but the concept of Maat is intimately


connected to the oldest of the creation myths; Atum at Heliopolis. 








When Atum had given life to Shu and Tefnut, by his androgynous


powers, the Coffin Texts state him saying: 





         "Tefnut is my living daughter


 and she shall be together with her brother Shu;


              his name is Life and


                her name is Maat."











Without Life and Maat there is no possibility of creation;


movement, dynamics and differentiation must be guided by an


ordering, structuring, regulating principle. Thus Maat is an


integrated part of the Creator god himself.





Pharaoh


The foremost of all priests was Pharaoh. As the son of the god he


was expected to perform the cult ritual every day. This entailed


offering and the foremost of all offerings was Maat:











      "O Re, Lord of Maat


       who lives by Maat


       who rejoices in Maat


       who is complete because of Maat


       who persists because of Maat


       who is praised by Maat


       who is powerful through Maat


       who rules through Maat


       who is crowned by Maat


       who ascends in Maat


       who descends in Maat


       who nourishes on Maat


       who is joined with Maat


       O Re, eternal in deed, perfect in plans


       righteous in heart, who establishes Maat


       in everything which he creates...!





Pharaoh lives by Maat and for Maat. By reciting and offering he is


performing his duty; he represents mankind and personifies Egypt.


He was the ruler by the grace of the gods and as such he had the


task of fighting the disintegrating forces and uphold balance


in society.











As Pharaoh could not be present in every temple of Egypt, there


was instead reliefs depicting him performing these rites, and there


was his deputies - the high priests. Their duty was to see to the


same needs for Egypt as Pharaoh did - the maintaining of good order


in society, thus preserving it for future generations. This task is


done on two levels at the same time, the mundane and the cosmic.


The ritual transcends the mundane level and reaches the realm of


the god. Therefore it might be said that the work of priests


and priestesses was at the same time functional and mystical.












Maat is depicted in a scene taken from The Eqyptian Book of the Dead:


A scene from the the Book of the Dead depicts the Judgement of the Dead. Anubis watches the scales; on the right, Thoth records the results; Amemet, next to Anubis, waits to eat sinful hearts. In the scales are shown the deceased's heart on left, and the feather of Maat on the right. Click here for a larger view.

The Egyptian Book of the Dead was called Chapters of Coming Forth By Day" by the ancient Egyptians. Karenga has done his own afrocentric translation of the Book of the Dead and published it under the name Book of Coming Forth by Day which is categorized as a religious book.

Maat is the basis for Kawaida which is the basis for Kwanzaa

From Official Kwanzaa Website we find that Kawaida and Maat are the basis for Kwanzaa :

Values and value orientation are important, as Kawaida philosophy teaches, because values are categories of commitment, priorities and excellence which indicate and enhance human possibilities. Kwanzaa puts forth seven key values, the Nguzo Saba (The Seven Principles) which offer standards of excellence and models of possibilities and which aid in building and reinforcing family, community and culture: Umoja, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba, Imani.

At the same time Kwanzaa reinforces associated values of truth, justice, propriety, harmony, balance, reciprocity and order embodied in the concept of Maat. In a word, it reminds us to hold to our ancient traditions as a people who are spiritually grounded, who respect our ancestors and elders, cherish and challenge our children, care for the vulnerable, relate rightfully to the environment and always seek and embrace the Good.

So, Karenga shows the link between Maat, Kawaida, and Kwanzaa right on the Official Kwanzaa Website. It is there, right now.

Those who believe in Maat believe that the 42 confessions/admonitions of Maat, found in The Egyptian Book of the Dead are the source of the 10 Commandments received by Moses in 'The Moses Story' (see here and here.) They believe that Moses did not receive the Commandments from God, but lifted them from a black Egyptian.


Underlying Kwanzaa Socialism/Marxism/Leftism

Kawaida, another invention of Ron Everett (aka. Maulana Karenga) is the underlying philosphy to Kwanzaa. Karenga describes Kawaida as "a synthesis of nationalism, pan-Africanism, and socialist thought."

The Official Kwanzaa Website - run by Ron Everett (aka. Maulana Karenga) says this about Kawaida and its relationship to Kwanzaa:

THERE IS NO WAY TO UNDERSTAND and appreciate the meaning and message of Kwanzaa without understanding and appreciating its profound and pervasive concern with values. In fact. Kwanzaa's reason for existence, its length of seven days, its core focus and its foundation are all rooted in its concern with values. Kwanzaa inherits this value concern and focus from Kawaida, the African philosophical framework in which it was created. Kawaida philosophy is a communitarian African philosophy which is an ongoing synthesis of the best of African thought and practice in constant exchange with the world.

Here are a few quotes from Karenga demonstrating Kawaida's underlying socialism/marxism:

Kawaida and its Critics by M. Ron Karenga - Journal of Black Studies, December 1977. Section: Kawaida: Toward A Nationalist-Socialist Synthesis:

Regardless of its critics, Kawaida is, above all, a revolutionary project in process, an audacious and terribly ambitious attempt to synthesize and realize the best of nationalist and socialist thought."

"Kawaida recognizes no pope or Vatican for socialism, accepts no group, state or party's claim to a monopoly on Marxism's or socialism's contribution to human knowledge and practice..."

"Kawaida is critical socialism as opposed to a dogmatic socialism..."

"In an attempt to synthesize the best of nationalist and socialist throught, Kawaida poses and attempts to answer the question of the relationship between national liberation and socialist liberation. Kawaida argues that national liberation and socialist liberation are and are not the same thing at the same time."


Ron McKinley Everett (aka. Maulana Karenga) / US Links

The Black Panthers and the Police: A Pattern of Genocide? - NEW YORKER MAGAZINE - February 13, 1971 (Includes great detail of the murders committed by Karenga's thugs)

PBS Interview with black radical Ron Everett (aka Maulana Karenga) - the guy that invented Kwanzaa 5 years before being sent to prison for torturing two young women

Ron Karenga - Dialog from the Black Radical Congress - December 1999

US, the organization the Ron Everett founded in 1965, the organization that murdered 5 members of the rival Black Panther Party is back Their website is here.

Graphic used on Official Kwanzaa Website for the Nguzo Saba (The Seven Principles of Kwanzaa)
Graphic used on Official US Website (US is Karenga's Gang that Murdered Members and Leaders of Rival Gangs) as their logo

In fact, the Official Kwanzaa Website admits the linkage of Kwanzaa to the violent US gang by posting the US Logo right on their Kwanzaa: Roots and Branches page along with the damning admission:

First, Kwanzaa was created to reaffirm and restore our rootedness in African culture. It is, therefore, an expression of recovery and reconstruction of African culture which was being conducted in the general context of the Black Liberation Movement of the '60's and in the specific context of The Organization Us, the founding organization of Kwanzaa and the authoritative keeper of its tradition.

The two members of the US gang who murdered the two Panthers after they dissed Karenga at a Black Studies meeting on the UCLA campus were Larry and George Stiner. Both were convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison. They escaped in 1974. Larry turned himself in to the FBI in 1994, but George Stiner is still at large. He is on California's 10 Most Wanted list which can be found here. There is also an International Crime Alert on this fugitive who is considered armed and extremely dangerous here.


Afrocentrism Links

Clarence Walker Encourages Black Americans to Discard Afrocentrism

Pride & Prejudice by Dinesh D'Souza, Vol. 6, American Enterprise, 09-01-1995, pp 51 (Google Cached Version)

Fighting Fiction With Fact by Mary Lefkowitz (Google Cached Version)

Fallacies of Afrocentrism - Grover Furr

The Skeptics Dictionary - Afrocentrism

TEACHING REVERSE RACISM A strange doctrine of black superiority is finding its way into schools and colleges

The Skeptics Dictionary Review of Mary Lefkowitz' Book "Not Out Of Africa"

Review of Mary Lefkowitz' Books on Afrocentrism Myth "Not Out Of Africa" and "Black Athena Revisited"

The Trap of Ethnic Identity - New York Times - Jan 1997

AFROCENTRISM The Argument We're Really Having


19 posted on 12/24/2002 2:32:36 PM PST by Spiff
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To: goldstategop
What if Bush knew the history behind Kwanzaa and decided to make the statement anyhow... knowing that it's history would get covered by the media?
20 posted on 12/24/2002 2:33:04 PM PST by Jason Kauppinen
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To: All
I KNOW I KNOW A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS


21 posted on 12/24/2002 2:34:42 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: goldstategop
Well when David Duke creates a synthetic holiday for white people I'm sure we can count on a liberal President acknowledging it by Proclamation.

Duke could call the holiday "Klanzaa" and just change any reference from black to white. Both holidays would be equally racist.

22 posted on 12/24/2002 2:34:54 PM PST by Spiff
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To: Spiff
There's got to be a one day moratorium/yr on ojsimpson!

also...


mele keliki maka---houoli maka hiki ho!

E hau'oli kakou i ka nanai e keia wa kamaha'o...

"Let us celebrate the Beauty and Grace of this Holiday Season."


23 posted on 12/24/2002 2:37:30 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: TLBSHOW
Nope. Ann's certainly not a sheeple! She is the gutsy columnist who always defends me! I am forever grateful to her for that.

My life is always better after reading Ann Coulter, Thomas Sowell, and David Limbaugh!

24 posted on 12/24/2002 2:37:39 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: goldstategop
Once again ignorant people are duped. Embarrassing. Wish President Bush had NOT done this. But of course, this celebration DOES have its own Hallmark card. ;)
25 posted on 12/24/2002 2:38:12 PM PST by Libertina
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To: TLBSHOW
Whoever convinced President Bush to mention Kawanza whould be fired for stupidity and maximum ignorance.
26 posted on 12/24/2002 2:38:35 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: TLBSHOW

27 posted on 12/24/2002 2:38:44 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: TLBSHOW
"Kwanzaa celebrates "traditional African values" and "uniting people of diverse backgrounds and beliefs."

Sometimes when I think George II can't possibly sound any stoopider, he sets yet another standard of personal best. From what the news reports show, a "traditional African value" is, in fact, the slaughter -- by the most gruesome means available -- of "people of diverse backgrounds and beliefs."

28 posted on 12/24/2002 2:41:08 PM PST by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Admin Moderator
Would you be so kind as to remove the 4th and 5th paragraphs from this thread? Thanks you.
29 posted on 12/24/2002 2:41:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Russell Scott
must be that boy genius strikes again.....
30 posted on 12/24/2002 2:42:14 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Just so everyone knows. This is not a new article from Ann Coulter. It is an excellent piece but all she did was change the first paragraph condemning Bill Clinton for recognizing this racist holiday to mentioning Trent Lott and condemning George Bush. Other than that, the article is identical to one she wrote years ago. I wish she would have found more information to add, but she didn't. But, I still love her - go Ann!

Funny how the article fit Bill Clinton as much as it fit George W. Bush. Maybe, that was Ann's intention by recycling a years-old article and only changing the names of the guilty.

31 posted on 12/24/2002 2:44:25 PM PST by Spiff
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To: goldstategop
Kwanzaa is silly Afro Marxist tripe in Christian dress.

President Bush is our first conservative multiculturalist as President.

It is just another hole the president has dug himself into.

Namely his stance on the open and unfettered border we have with Mexico or where ever "wets" are impatiently waiting to get their gratis share of this the greatest nation on earth.

32 posted on 12/24/2002 2:44:53 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: goldstategop
Kwanzaa is silly Afro Marxist tripe in Christian dress.

President Bush is our first conservative multiculturalist as President.

It is just another hole the president has dug himself into.

Namely his stance on the open and unfettered border we have with Mexico or where ever "wets" are impatiently waiting to get their gratis share of this the greatest nation on earth.

33 posted on 12/24/2002 2:46:16 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: Spiff
Funny how the article fit Bill Clinton as much as it fit George W. Bush. Maybe, that was Ann's intention by recycling a years-old article and only changing the names of the guilty.

It really isn't funny that Bush is really a liberal.
34 posted on 12/24/2002 2:46:22 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Spiff
By chance do you have the original one with Clinton instead of Bush? If so can you post it?
35 posted on 12/24/2002 2:51:48 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: All
Many conservatives seem to think Republicans have turned the corner on their "race problem" by having forced Lott's resignation. I fear they're fooling themselves.

Let's recognize that there are two distinct, yet related aspects to the Republicans' problem with black voters. One is the perception that they deliberately court Southern voters by using "code words" appealing to their presumed bigotry.

Democrats are feverishly capitalizing on the Lott affair to foster this perception. And it's not just fringe Democrats. Indeed the two most prominent Democrats in the nation, Bill and Hillary Clinton – though I'm sure they still don't confer about politics at the breakfast table – "coincidentally" warned Republicans against letting their guard down post-Lott. Said Hillary, "if anyone thinks that one person stepping down from a leadership position cleanses the Republican Party of their constant exploitation of race, then I think they're naïve."

I've been in politics all my life, and I've never heard any Republican speak about a strategy to win the South by using symbolic language to appeal to closet Klansmen. Sure, I know of Republican electoral reliance on the South, but I haven't thought of that in terms of race. I don't think that way, nor do any other Republicans I know.

Nor do I buy for a second that Ronald Reagan was talking code when he championed states' rights. He happened to believe in that relic, the 10th Amendment, and the doctrine of federalism.

Political conservatism, in line with the framers' worldview, is grounded in the axiom that freedom depends on restraints on government and dividing and diffusing governmental power. That certain antebellum Southern racists may have proffered the states' rights argument to justify their "right" to preserve slavery is reprehensible. But we can't allow even gross abuses of freedom to cause us to surrender our freedom itself.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30152

36 posted on 12/24/2002 3:06:31 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Jim Robinson
Could you take out the 4th and 5th paragraphs from Ann Coulters story that I put in by mistake. See post 29

Thank You
37 posted on 12/24/2002 3:09:46 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: anncoulteriscool
BUMP
38 posted on 12/24/2002 3:22:34 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
I thought Sheila Jackson Lee invented Kawanza and Jesse Jackson invented the bogus term african american.
39 posted on 12/24/2002 3:27:35 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TLBSHOW
Anyone who thinks that talking up Kwanzaa will help the Republicans win black votes is totally out to lunch.

The huge majority of blacks are Southern Baptists, various other kinds of Protestants, Catholics, or Black Muslims.

Frankly the best way the Republicans could address blacks, who are socially conservative (except for the losers who deal drugs and run in urban gangs), is to point out that the Democrat party is the party of abortion. Why do they want to vote for a party that kills babies, breaks up families, corrupts the country, refuses to protect inner city residents from violence, and refuses to let them choose their own schools?

Such an approach would appeal to Hispanics, and I think it would appeal to blacks, too. It wouldn't get the criminal votes, but who wants that (other than Democrats)? This business of sidling toward liberalism in order to appeal to blacks won't work in a million years. If they want real liberals, they know who to vote for.
40 posted on 12/24/2002 3:41:22 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim! Sorry for the mistake in posting.
41 posted on 12/24/2002 3:43:30 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: All
Isn't he the guy who stuck a soldering iron in a woman's mouth?
42 posted on 12/24/2002 3:44:53 PM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: TLBSHOW
With all due respect, Republicans do not have a "race problem", DemocRATS do.

DemocRATS have to maintain their 90+% stranglehold on black votes or they will join the Soviet Union on the ash heap of history.

In its efforts to do so, the RATS are unwittingly repelling greater numbers of white voters.

The Republican Party will gratefully accept those votes and then pass legislation that will benefit people of all races, colors, ethnicities, national origins, cultures, sexes, etc.

43 posted on 12/24/2002 3:45:00 PM PST by Texas Eagle
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To: Cicero
Anyone who thinks that talking up Kwanzaa will help the Republicans win black votes is totally out to lunch.

bttt
44 posted on 12/24/2002 4:39:51 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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45 posted on 12/24/2002 4:48:44 PM PST by Spiff
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To: TLBSHOW
"Despite modern perceptions that blend all the black activists of the '60s, the Black Panthers did not hate whites. They did not seek armed revolution."

Both statements are demonstrable bullshit....

46 posted on 12/24/2002 5:21:59 PM PST by yooper
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To: Spiff
Shouldn't that be "a pair of pliers and a blowtorch"?
47 posted on 12/24/2002 7:58:31 PM PST by Jason Kauppinen
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To: All
COULTER TRUTH AS NORMAL BUMP
48 posted on 12/24/2002 11:51:04 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: goldstategop
He did. It's called Klanzaa. (just kidding)
49 posted on 12/25/2002 1:19:43 AM PST by driftless
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To: TLBSHOW
Columnists do not get any better than Ann Coulter.
She is the best, hands down.

Boy, do I love Ann.

A great big "wow!" bump for brilliance and beauty.

50 posted on 12/25/2002 1:26:36 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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