Skip to comments.LBJ's Disgust at Clinton Mentor Bragging About Signing Southern Manifesto
Posted on 12/25/2002 10:49:33 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
From Hubert H. Humphrey Oral History Interview III, 6/21/77, by Michael L.Gillette by the LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON LIBRARY ORAL HISTORY COLLECTION
Gillette:Did he ever talk to you about that?
Humphrey: Oh yes. Oh yes, indeed. And he'd remind me who did it. I remember he told me onetime, "I know you think Bill Fulbright is one of the great liberals around here. You liberals. You all have got your big heroes." Only in Johnson's voice. He said, "I want you to notice who signed the Southern Manifesto and who didn't. Now all your bomb throwers over there think I am the worst thing that came down here. They won't cooperate" and so on. "But they're all cheering Bill Fulbright. Why do they cheer Bill Fulbright? Because they think he's got great connections overseas. He's a Rhodes Scholar, and he's got the Fulbright Act" and so on and so on. And he'd go on. He said, "He signed the Southern Manifesto, didn't he? He signed that Southern Manifesto. I didn't." Oh, many times he'd mention that. He was very proud of the fact that he didn't sign it. Also, he used it.
Johnson used every tool in the book. This is when he'd get in an argument with Paul Douglas or Herbert Lehman or Estes Kefauver or any of these people that he thought he couldn't quite manage or that were resisting him. He'd let them know. Every so often he'd drop that little atom bomb; that when it was all said and done, "Boys, you've got some boys over here that you're sleeping with day in and day out, like Bill Fulbright, but I wasn't there when they signed that Southern Manifesto. I said no, and your hero said yes. Now how do you justify that?" See, he'd put them on the defensive. He used these things. He was so adroit.
There are several points in the interview where HHH as LBJ using "liberal" and "liberal Democrats" as pejoratives.
SEE Bill Clinton presenting the Medal of Freedom to Bill Fullbright, but HEAR LBJ's words, "Boys, you've got some boys over here that you're sleeping with day in and day out, like Bill Fulbright, but I wasn't there when they signed that Southern Manifesto. I said no, and your hero said yes. Now how do you justify that?"
And they ask yourselves, "Now how do you justify that?"
What most links don't show is what party they were in. I did some research and found:
MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE
Walter F. George Democrat Guy who actually read the Manifesto into the record.
Richard B. Russell, Democrat
John Stennis, Democrat
Sam J. Elvin, Jr., Then-Democrat
Strom Thurmond, Democrat
Harry F. Byrd, Democrat
Willis Robertson, Democrat
John L. McClellan, Democrat
Allen J. Ellender, Democrat
Russell B. Long, Democrat
Lister Hill, Democrat
James O. Eastland, Democrat
W. Kerr Scott, Democrat
John Sparkman, Democrat
Olin D. Johnston, Democrat
Marion Price Daniel, Democrat
J.William Fulbright, Democrat
George A. Smathers Democrat
Spessard Lindsay Holland.Democrat
First announce which one's you'll do, so we don't duplicate effort.
MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Frank W. Boykin
George M. Grant
George W. Andrews
Kenneth A. Roberts
Armistead I. Selden, Jr.
Robert E. Jones
George Huddleston, Jr.
Wilbur D. Mills
James W. Trimble
Charles E. Bennett
Robert L.F. Sikes
A.S. Herlong, Jr.
Paul G. Rogers
James A. Haley
Prince H. Preston
John L. Pilcher
John James Flynt, Jr.
James C. Davis
Iris F. Blitch
Phil M. Landrum
F. Edward Hebert
Edwin E. Willis
Otto E. Passman
James H. Morrison
T. Ashton Thompson
George S. Long.
Thomas G. Abernathy
Jamie L. Whitten
Frank E. Smith
John Bell Williams
William M. Colmer.
Herbert C. Bonner
Graham A. Barden
Carl T. Durham
F. Ertel Carlyle
Hugh Q. Alexander
Woodrow W. Jones
George A. Shuford.
L. Mendel Rivers
John J. Riley
W.J. Bryan Dorn
Robert T. Ashmore
James P. Richards
John L. McMillan.
Tennessee: James B. Frazier, Jr.
Johnsons voting recorda record twenty years long, dating back to his arrival in the House of Representatives in 1937 and continuing up to that very daywas consistent with the accent and the word. During those twenty years, he had never supported civil rights legislationany civil rights legislation. In Senate and House alike, his record was an unbroken one of votes against every civil rights bill that had ever come to a vote: against voting rights bills; against bills that would have struck at job discrimination and at segregation in other areas of American life; even against bills that would have protected blacks from lynching. His first speech in the Senatea ringing defense of the filibuster that was a key southern tactichad opened with the words We of the South, and thereafter, as this book will demonstrate, he had been not merely a member of the Senates southern anticivil rights bloc, but an active member...
Sometimes he (Johnson) would indulge in an even more blatant manifestation of his power. Somehow the vote hadnt worked out as he had thought it would; he was a vote or two short of victory. So a vote or two would be changedright out in the open. Johnson would walk across the floor to a senator who had been in opposition, and whisper to him, and the senator would rise and signal the clerk that he had been incorrectly recorded. You would see votes changed right in front of your eyes, the Senate aide says. Neil MacNeil, who knew the Senate so well, could hardly believe what he was seeing. He did it in front of God, MacNeil was to recall. It didnt happen much, but it happened. He was absolutely brazen about it. He put the arm on guys right on the floor.
Sometimes Johnson would not even bother to walk across the floor. Once he yelled across the well to Frear, who was sitting at his desk: Change your vote, Allen! The Senator from Delaware did not immediately respond, so Johnson yelled again, in a shout heard, in the words of one writer, by more than eighty senators and the galleries: Change your vote, Allen! Allen changed his vote. Small wonder that Hugh Sidey, remembering years later the tall man with his mind attuned to every sight and sound and parliamentary nuance, who signaled the roll calls faster or slower, who gave another signal, and the door would open, and two more guys would run in, would say, My Godrunning the world! Power enveloped him.
At the bottom of page 33 of paperback: LBJ says, "I have them [insert racial slur here] voting Democratic for two hundred years." <P Following that passage, MacMillan describes how LBJ's kid Luci once demanded that he locate her "care giver". It was, "Find my [insert racial slur here]."
If I may borrow a phrase from the sainted leader of the Democrt's civil rights movement, then Harry Belefonte is one goddamned nigra who knows how to serve his Democrat masters.
Fulbright=traitor,and most likely the source of leaks to the North Vietnamese about operations to rescue American POW's in Viet Nam. As the Dim chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee,he was above official suspiscion.
And his wife,Lindey (Lindsay?) Boggs took over his congressional seat when he died. Cokie and Al grew playing in the Senate chamber.
L. Mendel Rivers - Democrat
John J. Riley - Democrat
W.J. Bryan Dorn - Democrat
Robert T. Ashmore - Democrat
James P. Richards - Democrat
John L. McMillan. - Democrat
Well, I already blew the assignment. But I did find a good link to research bios of ex reps. Biographical Directory of the United States Congress.
That said, I just did the North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee names...
Herbert Covington Bonner (D) 1891-1965, Rep. NC 11/5/40 - 11/7/65, died in office
Lawrence H. Fountain (D) 1913-2002, Rep NC 1/3/53 - 1/3/83 (not candidate 1982)
Graham Arthur Barden (D) 1896-1967, Rep. NC 1/3/35 - 1/3/61 (not candidate '60)
Carl Thomas Durham (D) 1892-1974, Rep. NC 1/3/39 - 1/3/61 (not cand. '60)
Frank Ertel Carlyle (D) 1897-1960, Rep. NC 1/3/49 -1/3/57 (lost in '56)
Hugh Quincy Alexander (D) 1911-1989 Rep. NC 1/3/53 - 1/3/63 (lost in '62)
Woodrow Wilson Jones (D) 1914 - , Rep. NC 11/7/50 - 1/3/57 (not candidate in '56), LBJ appointed to District Judge Western District of NC - Senior Distr. Judge 1968 to present (at least to the date of the bio, more checking on this needed)
George Adams Shuford (D) 1895-1962, Rep. NC 1/3/53 - 1/3/59 (renom. '58, withdrew, ill health)
South Carolina and Tennessee coming up in my next comment...
James Beriah Frazier, Jr. (D) 1890-1978, Rep. TN 1/3/49 - 1/3/63 (lost '62)
Thomas Jefferson Murray (D) 1894-1971, Rep. TN 1/3/43 - 1/3/67 (lost '66)
Jere Cooper (D) 1893-1957, Rep. TN 3/4/29 - until his death 12/18/57
Clifford Davis (D) 1897-1970, Rep. TN 2/15/40 - 1/3/65 (lost '64)
They bill themselves as: The Internet's Most Comprehensive Source of U.S. Political Biography,
The Web Site That Tells Where the Dead Politicians are Buried
I guess, as opposed to where the live ones are buried.