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California: Golden State has tarnish. Business having seconds thoughts abot staying.
Orange County Register ^ | December 27, 2002

Posted on 12/27/2002 12:05:32 PM PST by John Jorsett

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:05:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: kellynla
So where are you heading to now?

My bet is Texas or Florida.

21 posted on 12/27/2002 4:06:51 PM PST by Caipirabob
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To: John Jorsett
I wish some of these companies would consider Western North Carolina.

We are desperate for industry here, wages are low, regulation is low, and the scenery is beautiful. There aren't many places in the US where a humble factory worker can afford a home overlooking a waterfall like one can here.

22 posted on 12/27/2002 5:50:50 PM PST by snopercod
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To: Yakboy
Nevada
23 posted on 12/27/2002 6:02:38 PM PST by kellynla
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To: rudypoot
Who would you rather believe in this case? A government spokesman with a poll or the business executives?

This guy Pulaski is not a government employee - he's a union thug. California Federation of Labor (CFL is a statewide branch of AFL-CIO).

Here's another question: since when are companies who employ people supposed to "care" about them?

I am coming up on 18 years working for a HUMONGOUS company here in California. The first seven years were great - we really felt that "The Company" "caaared" about us. With the end of the Cold War and the cuts in defense spending, we had a very rude awakening. While your individual manager or supervisor may give a rat's patoot about you, they're nearly as powerless as you are. The big suits up in the corner offices are only looking at the bottom line.

24 posted on 12/27/2002 6:26:33 PM PST by Inspectorette
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Nevada BUMP :-)
25 posted on 12/27/2002 6:35:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Wolfstar
Does this "special" tax come out of everyone's paycheck, including males and women who cannot have children? Or maybe the question should be asked this way: is this a thinly disguised income redistribution scheme?

Yes, everyone pays (with the possible exception of the self-employed. I don't know if we pay into this thing or not. If we're covered, I'm taking a 6-week paid vacation each year, courtesy of this system.)

This leave is for more than maternity. It could be for adoption, a death in the family, etc. The employer is supposed to be the 'gatekeeper' of what constitutes an emergency. I'm betting that most employers, since they aren't the ones paying directly, will be somewhat lax.

I don't think you could characterize this as a redistribution scheme just yet. The benefits are capped at some level, and everyone pays a fixed amount into the system. However, when the inevitable abuse runs the cost up, it'll become too expensive for lower-income workers to pay, so I expect that we'll see "the rich" socked for more. That's the point at which point it'll take on redistributionist characteristics.

26 posted on 12/27/2002 8:05:17 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: Wolfstar
Oh, yeah, and the "special" tax initially goes into Gray Davis' version of Al Gore's lock-box.

That's a good point as well, Davis has already been raiding the various California funds by the simple expedient of declaring them to be "in surplus," and taking the money. Then some time later it's "discovered" that the fund is short of money. So the state gives it back. JUST KIDDING! Davis naturally says that to make up for the shortage, taxes must be raised to replenish the fund.

What do you want to bet that this giant pot of money is going to get the same treatment?

27 posted on 12/27/2002 8:10:13 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: kellynla
Guess it's still in the neighborhood. Fortunately at this point Florida has a mild infection of Democrats, but when Jev steps down and moves on thing could rapidly get ugly here, too.

The rats would love to bankrupt the state and start an income tax to destroy the economy. We'll fight tooth and nail before we let them.

28 posted on 12/28/2002 4:05:27 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: Yakboy
The rats would love to bankrupt the state and start an income tax to destroy the economy. We'll fight tooth and nail before we let them.

Would the state constitution have to be amended, or would a simple vote of the legislature be enough. If the latter, what I'd be doing right now is getting a ballot proposition going to put the "no income tax" in the state constitution itself. You might have to simultaneously vote out the liberal state Supreme Court members at the same time in order to get it to stick. I understand that they regularly strike down ballot proposals that they disagree with on the "no multiple issues" pretext.

29 posted on 12/28/2002 11:20:36 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
But Art Pulaski, spokesman for the California Federation of Labor

"Federation of Labor"? So this guy is a socialist scumbag union thug? Democrat operative? Both?

The funny thing is, one GOP leader recently said that the Republicans are going to be a whole lot more concerned with making sure individual families don't get socked with new taxes than they will be with protecting businesses, because so many of California's businesses helped fund scumbag Democrat campaigns. LOFL!! "Revenge is a dish best served cold." See what that does to California's ranking with business.

30 posted on 12/28/2002 9:46:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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