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Army recieves order to deploy to Gulf
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Posted on 12/27/2002 2:52:06 PM PST by Sparta

The Army has recieved orders to deploy to the Gulf. Elements of the Third Infantry Division recieved orders today. Developing......


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The clouds of war darken.
1 posted on 12/27/2002 2:52:06 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
Brigade of the Fla National Guard ....1,500 strong also getting orders.
2 posted on 12/27/2002 2:54:28 PM PST by Dog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; hchutch; Miss Marple
Ping!
3 posted on 12/27/2002 2:55:10 PM PST by Dog
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To: Sparta
Any units of the Signal Corps? That's the primary precursor "indicator" that the big game is going to start.

Looks like we might be watching something in addition to football this New Years day.

4 posted on 12/27/2002 2:55:54 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: Sparta
Saddam, your time is truly limited.
5 posted on 12/27/2002 2:57:21 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Sparta
bump .... the holidays are almost up ... time for us to get our game faces on.
6 posted on 12/27/2002 2:58:18 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: Sparta
First the USS George Washington, now the Army gets orders. Sounds ominous.

Prayers going up for our Armed Forces and Commander-in- Chief. May God continue to bless and protect them.
7 posted on 12/27/2002 2:59:51 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: Sparta
Navy - check
Marines - check
Air Force - check
Army - check

... Looks like the big dawgs are about ready to bark.
8 posted on 12/27/2002 3:00:18 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Sparta; Dog
I knew it was inevitable for a January date...
10 posted on 12/27/2002 3:01:23 PM PST by Neets
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To: Dog
Looks like things are starting to roll ..
11 posted on 12/27/2002 3:01:32 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Sparta
Look for elements of III corps at Ft Hood (1st Cav, 4th Mech) to be next.
12 posted on 12/27/2002 3:01:41 PM PST by CholeraJoe
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To: Sparta
The clouds of war darken.

As the price of gas goes up. 10¢ today. 30¢ in the last two weeks in Illinois where I live.

13 posted on 12/27/2002 3:02:13 PM PST by chainsaw
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To: Recovering_Democrat
YO SADDAM!!!!

BUH BYE!!!
14 posted on 12/27/2002 3:02:45 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: baseballmom
U.S. Carrier Truman Leaves Marseille for Possible War on Iraq

MARSEILLE, France -- The U.S. Navy's most modern aircraft carrier, USS Harry S. Truman, left the French port of Marseille Friday en route for the eastern Mediterranean to support a possible war on Iraq, harbor authorities said.

The huge, nuclear-powered vessel, which anchored here Monday for a Christmas stop-over for its 5,000 sailors and flight personnel, attracted a demonstration by 1,000 French anti-war protesters Thursday who carried signs reading "U.S. Go Home!" and "Don't Chop Up Iraq!".

U.S. Defense Department officials said the Truman was replacing another carrier, USS George Washington, which last week returned to its home port after a six-month deployment in the Mediterranean.

The deployment of USS Truman means two U.S. aircraft carriers are now currently available for military operations against Iraq, according to the U.S. defense consultancy globalsecurity.org. The other carrier, USS Constellation, is in the Persian Gulf.

Each carrier is accompanied by a "battle group" -- up to a dozen smaller escort vessels including sumbmarines, destroyers and minesweepers.

The Truman, commissioned four years ago, carries 80 aircraft -- F-14 and F-18 fighter/bombers and EA-6B electronic jammers -- and has a battle flag whose motto reads "give 'em hell".

15 posted on 12/27/2002 3:03:05 PM PST by knak
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To: Sparta
a little secret......this ain't a deployment
"against Iraq" as the media wants to believe
but a war on the "AXIS OF EVIL". It's us or them
and to win, really win, the strategy headed to sea
is a bigger plan, known from day ONE, to win
against the Axis of Evil. Go Dubya go. Stay strong
and we here at home.....keep your powder dry.
16 posted on 12/27/2002 3:04:36 PM PST by cactusSharp
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To: Sparta
This is breaking also...UN weapons inspectors have said a key Iraqi scientist gave them details of a military programme that could be a "possible prelude to a clandestine nuclear programme".

I'm sure that is not the only evidence that we have of Iraq's nuclear program. Looks like the hammer is about to fall on Saddam.

17 posted on 12/27/2002 3:04:56 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Sparta
What are the weather conditions there in January?
18 posted on 12/27/2002 3:06:56 PM PST by Veggie Todd
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To: chainsaw
As the price of gas goes up. 10¢ today. 30¢ in the last two weeks in Illinois where I live.

prices have dropped here. regular at 1.25 at discount stations. diesel about 1.45

19 posted on 12/27/2002 3:07:13 PM PST by templar
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To: SamAdams76
Sam who is reporting that???
20 posted on 12/27/2002 3:08:18 PM PST by Dog
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To: Neets
"I knew it was inevitable for a January date..."

I predict we will hit in the early hours E.S.T. in mid-Feb.

Bye-bye sadamn!

Yes, pray for our troops and for the innocent women and children sadman will use as human shields.

Also pray that as many islamic terrorists as possible throughout the world will come to the aid of sadamn and then be "dealt with" accordingly.

21 posted on 12/27/2002 3:08:39 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Neets
I think maybe March according to my source.
22 posted on 12/27/2002 3:09:23 PM PST by pitinkie
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To: Dog
The BBC.

Here is a link.

I'll do a search on FR. If it's not posted, I'll post the entire article in a separate thread.

23 posted on 12/27/2002 3:10:01 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Dog; Poohbah
Thanks, Dog.

Poohbah, looks like the old 24th Mech (now the 3rd Infantry Division) is on the move.
24 posted on 12/27/2002 3:10:49 PM PST by hchutch
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To: templar
We are having a gas war in Round Rock Texas.

Last week, was $.97 at the new Alberson's on Gattis School Road, but gosh darnit - all the way back up to $1.05 this week.

25 posted on 12/27/2002 3:10:50 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: chainsaw
It's gone down about 10 cents in the Seattle area in the last three weeks.
26 posted on 12/27/2002 3:11:08 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: SamAdams76; chainsaw; Squantos; sauropod; harpseal; Travis McGee; chookter
The price of gasoline has gone up by $0.20 overnight. Today the L'ville news showed some Kentucky NG units leaving their armory for Ft Dix, NJ and further deployment and some Indiana units leaving Ft Knox for an unknown destination. (I am glad to see the media honoring a black out on the destinations)
27 posted on 12/27/2002 3:11:14 PM PST by SLB
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To: pitinkie
The build up of forces is taking place in January..so that makes sense for February...FOX news just had a report that 10's of 1000's of troop build up throughout the month of January. And they are making it public as they know Sadaam Insane is paying attention.
28 posted on 12/27/2002 3:11:39 PM PST by Neets
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To: SamAdams76
Post that in breaking news Sam...
29 posted on 12/27/2002 3:12:55 PM PST by Dog
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To: hchutch
Look at link in post 23....
30 posted on 12/27/2002 3:13:39 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Saw it.

Looks like we're getting our smoking guns...
31 posted on 12/27/2002 3:14:08 PM PST by hchutch
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To: Neets
We can't have those guys sitting in the desert to long......so look for this to hit the fan ....end of Jan.

Look at the link in 23 Neets...

32 posted on 12/27/2002 3:15:21 PM PST by Dog
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To: SLB
Well for what it's worth, I have noticed some unusual air traffic over my house lately. I'm seeing these plain white jets with no markings. Absolutely no markings at all. Just plain white. They look to be about the size of a DC-9. I don't know if they are military or not. I had thought that maybe they were planes being taken out of service by one of the major airliners and thus they were painted over.
33 posted on 12/27/2002 3:15:36 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: hchutch
This don't look like no Slick Willie "fire a million-dollar missile into a ten-dollar tent and hit a camel in the butt" PR move.
34 posted on 12/27/2002 3:17:44 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: SamAdams76
shhhh... those are airplanes being used to transport federal workers into AREA-51, and are supposed to be kept secret.

They are also capable of making transatlantic flights from ... oh.... Ft. Hood ... all the way over to Halfgonistan.... errrr.... Iraq.....errr...... Korea.

silly me, I forgot who we're at war with this week.

35 posted on 12/27/2002 3:21:14 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: Poohbah; Miss Marple
Damn straight. Methinks this shall be a much different approach that Clinton. To paraphrase Henry V:

And, be assured, Saddam'll find a difference,
As we Bush's fellow Americans have in wonder found,
Between the promise of his greener days
And these he masters now: now he weighs time
Even to the utmost grain.
36 posted on 12/27/2002 3:21:59 PM PST by hchutch
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To: PokeyJoe
Well I'm not trying to read anything into it but it is unusual to see white planes with no markings whatsoever flying overhead. Like I said, I assumed they were planes that one of the major carriers was taking out of service and thus they were painted out white. If anybody has a different explanation, I'll be happy to hear it.
37 posted on 12/27/2002 3:24:42 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: chainsaw
As the price of gas goes up.

Sheese, that the absolute last thing I'm worried about.

38 posted on 12/27/2002 3:24:46 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: SamAdams76
Mind my asking, from what airport?
39 posted on 12/27/2002 3:29:48 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: PokeyJoe
HOLY COW! For months we've been in the 1.48-ish range! But that doesn't really surprise me, since I always feel ripped off here.
40 posted on 12/27/2002 3:30:49 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: SamAdams76
Well for what it's worth, I have noticed some unusual air traffic over my house lately. I'm seeing these plain white jets with no markings. Absolutely no markings at all. Just plain white. They look to be about the size of a DC-9. I don't know if they are military or not. I had thought that maybe they were planes being taken out of service by one of the major airliners and thus they were painted over.

That would be troops on the move. These are usually 'wet leases' where the aircraft has been hired for a short term to transport personnel and / or hardware. World Airways are normally used. Ostensibly they are just civilian jets, but this airline hasn't operated a regular passenger service since September 1986. Their jets are chartered out for airlift services. Most of their business is with US Air Mobility Command and in September 2001 they got a $175 million contract to provide airlift services to the US military. They use DC-10-30 passenger aircraft but also DC-10-30 F (the cargo version) and possibly MD-11s which look similar but are larger. These aircraft are large, white and have three engines. (one on each wing and a centre engine in the tail.) The DC-10-30s can carry about 350 passengers while the MD-11s can carry over 400.

41 posted on 12/27/2002 3:34:06 PM PST by maquiladora
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To: Sparta

Pentagon orders tens of thousands of military personnel to Persian Gulf
JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer
Friday, December 27, 2002
©2002 Associated Press

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2002/12/27/national1827EST0738.DTL

(12-27) 15:27 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --  The Pentagon has ordered a major military force to the Persian Gulf in preparation for a possible war with Iraq.

Thousands of troops, two aircraft carrier battle groups and scores of combat aircraft have received orders since Christmas to ready themselves to head to the region in January and February, defense officials said Friday. Military personnel will go to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman and Bahrain, among other locations.

The Bush administration waited until after the holiday to issue the orders, which alert units across the United States and possibly overseas to prepare for deployment to the Persian Gulf, officials said. Officials said tens of thousands of military personnel will receive orders to go to the region, but a precise figure was unavailable.

Some of the units being sent to the region are combat-ready, including infantry units, warships and strike aircraft, officials said. Many more are logistics, engineering and support teams, which will prepare for the arrival of even larger combat units in the months ahead, officials said. They will add to the 50,000 U.S. military personnel already in the region.

"We don't comment on specific unit deployments. However, forces will be flowing to the region to be in place should the president decide to use them," said Jim Wilkinson, a spokesman at U.S. Central Command, which would oversee operations in Iraq.

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said last week such deployments will "reinforce diplomacy." The Bush administration hopes the threat of military action will increase the pressure on Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to fully disclose his efforts to acquire chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

The Pentagon ordered the Navy to prepare two aircraft carrier battle groups and two amphibious assault groups to go to the region, defense officials said. The orders, sent in the last two days, require the Navy to have the vessels ready to sail to the seas around Iraq within 96 hours after a certain date in January, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. They did not specify that date.

One of those carriers, the USS George Washington, has already been selected to head to the region. The ship just arrived home to Norfolk, Va., from the Persian Gulf region and has remained ready to return. The second carrier will either be the Everett, Wash.-based USS Abraham Lincoln, which is currently in port at Perth, Australia, having just left the Persian Gulf region, or the USS Kitty Hawk, currently in port in Japan.

An aircraft carrier battle group includes six to eight surface escorts, including cruisers, destroyers, frigates and other vessels, dozens of strike and support aircraft and about 7,500 sailors. An amphibious ready group has about 2,200 Marines.

The defense officials said the amphibious assault groups have not yet been selected. Those groups center on a large, carrier-like vessel that can launch helicopters and carry Marines.

Already in the region is the carrier USS Constellation and the amphibious assault ship USS Nassau, and their escorts, officials said. The Nassau group carries another 2,200 Marines.

A fourth carrier group, centered on the USS Harry S. Truman, is in the Mediterranean Sea.

In addition, the U.S. Navy hospital ship Comfort is expected to put to sea from its home port in Baltimore next week and prepare for action, military officials said Friday. It will be headed to Diego Garcia, a British island in the Indian Ocean where the United States bases numerous military aircraft, to support any potential conflict with Iraq.

The 1,000-bed floating hospital will initially sail with a crew of 61 civilian mariners and 225 Navy personnel, including enough doctors to support two operating rooms, said Marge Holtz, spokeswoman for the Navy's Military Sealift Command. Hundreds more will be flown to the ship as needed, she said.

Air Force officials said units from five U.S.-based combat wings have received orders to prepare to deploy. They include F-15 fighters from Langley Air Force Base, Va.; F-15E Strike Eagles from Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, N.C.; B-1B bombers from Ellsworth Air Force Base, S.D.; rescue helicopters and Predator drones from Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.; and C-130 cargo planes and possibly more rescue helicopters from Moody Air Force Base, Ga.

Air tankers and transport aircraft are also expected to take part, officials said. Dozens of fighters already based in the Persian Gulf fly daily patrols over most of Iraq.

The size of the Army deployment was not clear, but it included infantry as well as support units, officials said. The Army also keeps air defense units in the region.

Last week, officials said the Army was expected to deploy troops from the 1st Armored Division and 1st Infantry Division, both based in Germany, as well as an air mobile unit.

The main Marine Corps contingent is likely to be the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, based at Camp Pendleton, Calif. The 1st MEF's headquarters unit already has moved to Kuwait to prepare for combat operations.

A Coast Guard unit, based in Tacoma, Wash., that operates six small patrol boats has been deployed to the Persian Gulf, according to the office of Sen. Patty Murray.

42 posted on 12/27/2002 3:34:50 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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Ping #42
43 posted on 12/27/2002 3:35:25 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: hchutch; Miss Marple
Ping #42
44 posted on 12/27/2002 3:35:58 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: PokeyJoe
Hanscom Air Field in Bedford, MA. It used to be purely an Air Force Base but is mostly used for civilian aircraft these days (some military still use it though). I work right next to it and a few years back, Air Force One appeared out of nowhere and flew about 500 feet over my head.
45 posted on 12/27/2002 3:43:41 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Did Hanscom's name change back to "Field" from AFB?
46 posted on 12/27/2002 3:55:00 PM PST by demlosers
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To: Sparta
There have been a lot of military jets flying over our city all this last week here on the West Coast. Looking out of my office window there are a number of contrails in the sky. Pasadena, California is a no-fly zone on Jan. 1 becaue of the Rose Parade and Bowl Game.
47 posted on 12/27/2002 3:55:16 PM PST by NorseWood
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To: CholeraJoe
Look for elements of III corps at Ft Hood (1st Cav, 4th Mech) to be next.

If anybody wants to know when the attack on Iraq is going to happen all they have to do is check the clubs in Killeen.

48 posted on 12/27/2002 3:57:56 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: demlosers
It is actually known as both Hanscom Air Field/Hanscom Air Force Base. The Air Force still has a small presence there but it is primarily operated as a civilian air field. It is actually now the busiest general aviation airport in New England.
49 posted on 12/27/2002 4:02:06 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Neets
Just hope we get him this time!
50 posted on 12/27/2002 4:04:05 PM PST by pitinkie
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