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HUGE SCANDAL DEVELOPING WITH HISPANIC (PRIMARILY ILLEGALS) COMMUNITY IN U.S. REGARDING WELFARE
Sources having contact with Hispanic community | 29 December 2002 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 12/30/2002, 2:08:03 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

A major scandal is brewing within the immigrant community in the United States. Hispanics in particular are going to be the group in focus very soon as the following becomes known: The Hispanic community, Mexicans in particular, are seeing an increase in the men taking common-law wives, having children and then the wives file for welfare benefits and State health insurance for the children (CHIP in Texas, Tenncare in TN) and the men going to work for cash or low wages. The black community is also actively involved in this fraud percentage-wise.

Two sources have provided this information and investigative reporting by liberal journalists(don’t place a bet on them while waiting) could bring out the truth on this. The Census Bureau undercounted illegal aliens by an estimated millions and many of them are living this way. Our economic system can NOT continue with this practice taking place. The states are already running massive deficits and cannot continue to give away funds at the present rate. Either they’re going to have to start rationing the welfare (which will lead to political activism within the Hispanic and Black communities) or raise taxes in a big way (which will lead to rebellion on the part of hard-working Americans).

The solution is not readily apparent as politicians want to keep their jobs. If they continue to dole out welfare, they’ll get votes. The working group is probably going to become smaller and smaller. As the system strains under such dishonesty, it will eventually snap. What happens next is anyone’s guess but the picture will not be pretty. State governments are going to have to start bringing a halt to welfare fraud. If not, the consequences are very real and will lead to massive unrest on one or both segments of society. This is a call to reason and a plea to fix the system before it is too late. Someone please tell those with influence to do something about it. If not, last one out please turn off the lights.


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Something simply has to be done. We are being robbed and have already been robbed an incredible amount of money. If nothing is done, chaos is inevitable.
1 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:08:03 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Huge numbers of illegals go back to Mexico for Christmas. If the U.S. closed the borders today (right now) it would be very interesting to see what would happen here in Texas.
2 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:13:19 AM by isthisnickcool
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To: isthisnickcool
Huge numbers of illegals go back to Mexico for Christmas.

Legal and illegals go...carrying incredible amounts of good purchased here. That's probably why nothing is done. Businesses would suffer. The taxpayer is the only one left to shoulder the burden.

3 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:17:32 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Hispanic community, Mexicans in particular, are seeing an increase in the men taking common-law wives, having children and then the wives file for welfare benefits and State health insurance for the children (CHIP in Texas, Tenncare in TN) and the men going to work for cash or low wages. The black community is also actively involved in this fraud percentage-wise.

This is not news, its been going on a long time and whites and blacks are just as guilty. Mexicans are just a little newer to the welfare fraud game.

Another big fraud area is section 8 housing. The welfare/low income mom gets section 8 and the boyfriend moves in.

5 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:19:46 AM by NEPA
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To: madfly; Dutchy; RaceBannon; firebrand
Wake me when the media reports this.
6 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:23:21 AM by StarFan
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
illegals are taxpayers. they pay taxes on everything they buy in stores. they also contribute to our society cheap labor.

one of the reasons that the u.s. gov't might go to a national tax is because there is a huge underground economy. go into a california walmart or super and watch what the illegal wives pay with--$100.00 bills.

in sum, the i.r.s. is having trouble controlling taxes at the upper end and at the lower end.

7 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:23:30 AM by koax
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To: Arthur Koestler
A Huge Scandal?

Yes, when they collapse the economy with all of the cheating and YOU don't have any retirement anymore because whatever they've invested in to provide you a return is worthless. You better give it some thought.

8 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:26:22 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Too many government officials are benefiting from illegal aliens to expect anything to be done. The corruption in this country's government goes from the skin to the core. Besides it isn't their money they are wasting.
9 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:26:22 AM by Blood of Tyrants
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To: koax
one of the reasons that the u.s. gov't might go to a national tax is because there is a huge underground economy. go into a california walmart or super and watch what the illegal wives pay with--$100.00 bills.

You are exactly right.

10 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:27:21 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This is old news and the media doesn't care.
11 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:27:40 AM by Jonx6
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To: NEPA
This is not news, its been going on a long time and whites and blacks are just as guilty.

Yes it IS news. The NEWS is the scale on which this is being done. It is very, very big. Yes, whites and blacks are doing this as well...but not on the SAME scale. I promise.

12 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:29:48 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
One solution is simple...disallow US citizenship to children of illegals born on US soil.

Two solution is also simple...disallow benefits to unmarried indigent mothers unless they cop to the father and establish if via paternity test. If the father is illegal, voila...no benefits. If he is legal, attach his paychecks.

Three solution is likewise simple...any benefits, health or other, to non citizens, are paid for by the country of origin. Either through direct payments, reduction in aid, or tariffs on imported goods.

In all these situations, the US can claim the high road. Either we are attempting to put the responsibility where it should rest, or, we are willing to provide the emergency services to the needy, but expect the sponsoring country to make good on the bill (i.e. if Mexico doesn't want to pay, it is meanspirited and doesn't have the welfare of it's citizens at heart). Where there is a will there is a way.

13 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:30:40 AM by Bob J
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To: isthisnickcool
You're right and they're all coming back now:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/813930/posts

14 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:32:36 AM by FITZ
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The Hispanic community, Mexicans in particular, are seeing an increase in the men taking common-law wives, having children...

Some of these men have wives and children in Mexico that they abandoned in order to do this. One of those abandoned women wrote to radio talk show host Terry Anderson and begged him to continue speaking out against illegal immigration because she, and other women she knew, had been left abandoned and destitute in Mexico while their husbands came to the U.S. and hooked up with women here in order to cash in.

I wonder what the feminists and liberals would have to say about that? Who would get their sympathy, the "poor, discriminated against immigrants who just came here for a better life" or their abandoned wives and kids? It's one of those times "When Liberal Issues Collide."

15 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:32:39 AM by Nea Wood
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begged him to continue speaking out against illegal immigration because she, and other women she knew, had been left abandoned and destitute in Mexico while their husbands came to the U.S. and hooked up with women here in order to cash in.

Exactly. And that's why you see my posts regarding illegal immigration on a regular basis. My sister-in-law is suffering the above RIGHT NOW. Nothing is EVER done.

16 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:35:25 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
It's going on in a very big way which is why there are extremely high levels of welfare use ---over a third of the population and more in many counties. "Common-law" marriages are very common in Mexico and they work out very well here when it comes to collecting welfare. It's not unusual for a man to send money back to a family in Mexico but be shacked up with a welfare mom in the US.
17 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:35:49 AM by FITZ
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To: Bob J
One solution is simple...disallow US citizenship to children of illegals born on US soil.

When? When??????? That law is going to HAVE to be changed!!!

18 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:36:37 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: Nea Wood
Sometimes the men start out with good intentions ---but absence does not make the heart grow fonder, after a couple years or months, he starts meeting women in the nightclubs and forgets about the wife and kids back home.
19 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:37:32 AM by FITZ
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Increasing activity by the INS could improve the welfare numbers while not risking civil unrest. A sudden inability to meet welfare payments WOULD incur civil unrest. I would bet on the politicians biting the bullet and telling the Mexicans they have to go home
20 posted on 12/30/2002, 2:38:49 AM by SauronOfMordor
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