Having been gone for a good portion of the month of December due to my oldest daughter getting married in San Diego, I was not here for the Lott fiasco.
Now I want to add my two cents since the controversy seems to still be going on in some circles. First I was stunned to see Lott being supported on here to the extent he was and some still do. How many of the Lott supporters were looking for a new Majority Leader when we took back the Senate because of his eneptness in being Majority Leaders? Ask yourself that question if you still support Lott.
Secondly, anyone that would want Lott out front as the spokesman for Republicans in this session of the Senate is not thinking. His comments (which I found deploreable BTW) would have been the focus of the Senate not the Bush Agenda.
Third, his comments about how he was ousted by his enemies went beyond my comprehension. His so-called "enemies" did not make those comments. I, for one, remember that Strom Thurmond was not a lifelong Republican and didn't even know he ran for President in 1948 until Lott brought it out. Did you Lott supporters bother to check out what Party he ran for and the platform? And you wanted Lott to remain as head of the Senate after you found out! Give this person a break!
Read what others have to say in the above articles and think before voicing your continued support for Lott! It gains nothing except make this forum look like it supports Lott and his statements! This member of FR does not support him in any way and haven't for a long time. This latest fiasco just proved to me that he should never have been Majority Leader to begin with!
That is the end of my rant!
1 posted on
12/30/2002 6:39:35 AM PST by
PhiKapMom
To: Brandonmark; Alex P. Keaton; deport; bradactor; Howlin; Miss Marple; Dog; A Citizen Reporter; ...
BTW -- bold in the article is mine!
2 posted on
12/30/2002 6:43:13 AM PST by
PhiKapMom
To: PhiKapMom
I'll second that emotion.
3 posted on
12/30/2002 6:49:26 AM PST by
chiller
To: PhiKapMom
Who called Paul Fray a F--king Jew bastard?
4 posted on
12/30/2002 6:58:36 AM PST by
BIGZ
To: PhiKapMom
Lott reminds me of Jefferson Davis, i.e., an inept leader. Frist proved able to stick to the goal by wining back the Senate against the odds. It's one thing to overlook off-the cuff remarks, but another to overlook ineptitude. That said, one goes with the other. Lott is best as he is now, gone from leadership, but still in the Senate.
To: PhiKapMom
Then you missed these stories or just ignored them?
As principal author of Lott's demise, Bush must now face its consequences: limiting his freedom in policy touching on race. He has to decide whether to approve Solicitor General Theodore Olson's proposal for U.S. intervention against the University of Michigan in the racial quota case before the Supreme Court. He has to decide whether to renominate U.S. District Judge Charles Pickering, a friend and Mississippi Republican ally of Lott's, for the appellate bench. To go with Olson and Pickering would raise accusations of "racism."
The Lott affair quickly burned off the remaining Republican glow from mid-term election victories, but its impact transcends that. Democratic operatives dragged out the old chestnut of candidate Bush's 2000 visit to Bob Jones University, with spokesman Ari Fleischer harangued about it at Friday's White House briefing. The theme is that the GOP's Southern base, the bedrock of its national election victories, is an illegitimate legacy from racist Dixiecrats.
robert novack
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20021223.shtml
The idea that Lott took the occasion of an old timer's birthday to introduce a new policy initiative to bring back segregation – a Democrat policy – is ludicrous.
Ann Coulter
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20021219.shtml
The consequences of this rout of the Republicans, due to their own cowardice, are going to be sweeping.
The liberal establishment has the bit in its teeth. All the momentum of November is gone. Republicans are going to be made to apologize for their past racist sins, to grovel before the inquisition, to abandon any and all plans to block the "civil rights" agenda of Sharpton, Jackson, Daschle and Gore. They will be told to drop any thought of nominating conservative Southern judges to U.S. courts. All efforts to overturn affirmative action -- i.e., reverse discrimination -- are almost surely now dead.
It is hard to see how Lott survives, or why he would want to. His own president cut him dead and collaborated, almost surely at the instigation of "Boy Genius" Karl Rove, with his assassins. And rather than fight the false charges, Lott apologized four times and threw himself on the mercy of a court that had convicted him, without evidence, of a thought crime he did not commit. Now, he is asking forgiveness of the very enemies he was elected to fight.
How does one now lead?
What should the president have said? A suggestion.
"Every day that America was segregated was a day that America was unfaithful to our ideals. I believe that. Sen. Lott believes that. Sen. Thurmond came to believe that. As for those who have maliciously and falsely accused Sen. Lott of a statement he never made and a sentiment he never expressed, they should stop dealing the race card from the bottom of the deck."
Lott's enemies would have scattered like the jackals they are. Now, with Bush's assist, they have horribly wounded his majority leader. Trent Lott is the victim of a hate crime, not the perpetrator of one.
Pat Buchanan
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/pb20021219.shtml
9 posted on
12/30/2002 7:12:31 AM PST by
TLBSHOW
To: PhiKapMom
Hey, glad to see you back, PKM!
Thanks for this post, which covers a lot (Lott?) of ground.
Lott's unfitness for his high office was evident from his craven actions at the time of the impeachment trial, among other egregious doings.
But truth to tell, I defended him at the time of the trial on the basis that there was no way under heaven to get a 2/3 majority in the Senate. Mea culpa! It was a mistake on my part to mentally excuse his cowardly actions, and I have repented many times over.
Nonetheless, it didn't take Rove's calibrated eyeball to realize that Lott had gone totally over the edge with the disastrous Strom Thurmond remarks. As Li'l Abner used to say, "...as any fool can plainly see; Ah sees!"
Thanks again for posting this. And...
BEAT WASHINGTON STATE!
10 posted on
12/30/2002 7:14:58 AM PST by
Ole Okie
To: PhiKapMom
At the top of the page it says, "A conservative news forum".
With that in mind, it does not say "REPUBLICAN", nor does it say differing opinions with PhiMom not allowed.
As for "thinking", just perhaps there are some people that think beyond the race issue. The last time I looked that was also still allowed.
11 posted on
12/30/2002 7:19:27 AM PST by
cynicom
To: PhiKapMom
Read what others have to say in the above articles and think before voicing your continued support for Lott!With all due respect, I don't need to read what others think. Lott should have defended himself, and he should have been defended by others the minute this ridiculous charge of racism emerged from the mouth of Jesse Jackson, on the one hand, and the still-pissed-from-impeachment conservatives on the other.
Worst of all, George Bush took an opportunity to humiliate Lott in public, a reprehensible thing for one human being to do to another.
I'm not going to argue this with you, as Lott did himself in with his silly BET interview and deserved to be cut loose after that.
The cravenness of Republicans that caused them to buckle to the race pimps was an ugly sight.
How long will it be before the unappeaseables among the GOP sour on Bill Frist because he's not sufficiently confrontational to Tom Daschle? It won't be long, that's for sure.
29 posted on
12/30/2002 7:50:50 AM PST by
sinkspur
To: PhiKapMom
Hi PKM,
As you now know, it got pretty lively here at FR while you were gone.
I couldn't believe, myself, the intellectual contortions that were done to defend the indefensible.
Kinda reminded me of the old Clintonista days, only it was Republicans this time around.
To: PhiKapMom
Nice post...I find myself in agreement with you about Lott, but not nearly as much so about Frist.
I suppose alot of our disagreement about the new majority leader stems from the personal experiences this year of each of us. The Senatorial Committee was helpful to you in your efforts, and signally unhelpful to mine...even though they were more than happy to use the assets I brought to their table.
Happy holidays!
EV
To: PhiKapMom
80 posted on
12/30/2002 9:05:59 AM PST by
TLBSHOW
To: PhiKapMom
I agree with you said except: GO COUGARS!!!!!!!!!!! (ahem, I live in Eastern Washington state).
But regarding Lott, I am still amazed that someone who has been in a leaderhip position so long could make himself so vulnerable by being that stupid. I am frankly happy that some deadwood has been removed from the leadership.
Maybe Lott should have tried a more Clintonian approach by saying "it's only about stupidity, let's move on."
My final thought is: If the Democrats got rid of their deadwood like Republicans do, Clinton would have resigned in 1998 and Gore would have been president and would been elected in 2000 (rather than just thinking he won).
94 posted on
12/30/2002 10:44:46 AM PST by
eeman
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