[evolved_rage]

The most racist people I know are good limousine liberal wannabees. They view using taxes for welfare as a type of property insurance to keep the, ahem, non-white folks drunk and happy, and away from their property.

[Consort]

The Republicans are not known for communicating well across the population. They do OK with the more educated people, but poorly with the greater number of less educated people. Bush communicates more widely than most other Republicans and that accounts for much of his popularity.

[ChemistCat]

Splendid article. It's not completely true either, of course; it is dishonest to imply that Republicans are always pure in their motives and never have been and never are racist. Lincoln abolished slavery--only in states that were in rebellion, as an act of war against the Southern economy and as a way of nurturing internal rebellion. Lincoln was not exactly a lover of black persons himself, and his anti-slavery sentiment was pretty pragmatic.

Lott is racist; Thurmond always was too. It's actually silly to expect anything else from them. Few whites from their places and time avoided that attitude--and none who didn't would be elected from there. They just managed to keep their sentiment in check most of the time as the decades passed and it became politically stupid to say out loud what you say privately on the porches of your closest friends "back home." Northern Mississippi isn't going to elect a man who cannot reconcile Klan voters with black voters one way or other. Republican or Democrat, is there ANY way to do that except by being believed by both sides to be, somehow, lying to the other side? Half the Southern vote thinks Trent Lott lied when he apologized...you have to stretch pretty far now though to believe that he lied when he praised Thurmond's Segregationalist party...he meant it, and we know it.

(There is a FR article somewhere on here written by a Native American that makes a pretty good case FOR segregation...interesting reading.)

When we lived in the South we attended a Republican party rally. We were approached by a candidate who looked over his shoulder both ways and began to talk to my husband (not to me! I vote too!) about his plan to make sure the N's were kicked off welfare and hopefully get them to leave the county. We were really shocked. Is it really THAT safe to assume so much about fellow whites in the South? This WAS twenty years ago, almost, but I will never forget it. I also do not believe for a second that Dem candidates didn't do the same and worse. In the more rural areas, this is not uncommon, I'm told, still. I hope our party is consistantly better; we owe it to our legacy.

But this is exactly the kind of article one must have to counter liberal lies. No essay of this length can do other than to over-simplify things, but better to err on the side of truth! Our side might selectively tell the truth, but oh my gosh, how the other side out right lies.

[mhking]

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[Z.Hobbs]

It is worthwhile to note that the 1964 Civil Rights act was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats.

Of course, once the South was "Civil Righted" Republicans wooed Southern Democrats as the more natural home for conservatives and local government federalists.

And the Democrats, losing the more conservative element filled the void with leftist and/or special interest groups.

The Trent Lotts of the world are only Republicans because Democrats have become leftwing extremists. Abraham Lincoln looks pretty good next to Fidel Castro.

It is interesting to note that When Woodrow Wilson, the first and foundational Democrat idealist of the 20th century, became President, Blacks were laid off from Federal jobs wholesale as a rollback of Republican policy, that being of getting more Blacks in U.S. Government employment.(Not as affirmative action but providing opportunity.

The Democrats may claim they are no longer Dixiecrats (But then who is?), but they can't claim they are no longer Wilsonians. They just found another racist methodology to manage the Black people.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

STATEMENT:"Presto, Chango! GOP Is Now Racist"

RESPONSE: HMMM! Ok. "No justice no peace!" HMMM! OK. HAR! HAR! HAR!

[fire_eye]

I just can't get over the feeling that the Demoncrats are wasting their time with this issue. It just isn't going to fly for two years until the next election. By that time, if there are - and there are almost certain to be - larger issues of the day governing the election, the Demoncrats will have wasted all their time and energy belaboring Trent Lott's wagging tongue - and they'll be sitting there with no agenda, no plan, and no position on the issues just as they are now.

It just seems to me that because they did manage to get *some* traction with it, and it's the *only* issue on which they've gotten any traction in the last year or so, that they've gone completely, screaming, irrationally mad with it. If so, that's going to work in our interest in the long run.

In fact, one could only hope that Republican strategists were clever enough to "plant" hyperemotional, evanescent issues like this with the Demoncrats in order to keep them hysterical and distracted - Lao Tzu would bow in appreciation of anyone that clever...

[TLBSHOW]

Republican voters should hope that their party leadership and their candidates have the moxie to label these charges as lies. The time for euphemisms is past.

The historical fact is that Democrats invented segregation, Democratic states spawned the KKK and the lynch mob and to say otherwise is a lie.


LOTTS OF WORK TO DO

[Cacique]

a rather interesting thread on the GOP

[CaptRon]

The party's first presidential candidate was Abraham Lincoln

I could be wrong, but I thought that John C. Fremont was the first Republican candidate for President, Lincoln being the first one to win.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Wasn't the year 1854 when the Republican party was born in order to help abolish slavery? Wasn't the birth of the Republican party drawn from the contempt by the Democratic party to abolish slavery? Wasn't it the Southern states that held on to slavery and are the primary Democrats even today? Isn't the Democratic party the party most black now associate with?

Therefore, isn't it the blacks who are Democrats that are the most racist against themselves?

[M. Thatcher]

In fact, the Horton ad first appeared in the Democratic primary. And, it was an independent group, not the Bush campaign and not the Republican Party, that used it against Dukakis in the general election.

Actually, it was a Reader's Digest article that roused the country, and spread national anti-Dukakis sentiment beneath the mainstream media radar screen. Atwater overheard truckers discussing the article at a truck stop. Here's the kicker: the Digest article, titled "Getting Away With Murder," DID NOT MENTION HORTON'S RACE. At all.