The Catholic Example

The New York Sun ^ | 12/31/02

[ninenot]

BUT with vouchers, what USED TO BE public money is now the original owner's (of that money).

Not true.

Unless they earned one Hell of a lotta money, the voucher recipient did NOT pay taxes equal to the voucher amount.

As a matter of fact, only one of three taxpayers actually has children in school (K-12.) The other 2/3rds subsidize that education.

A voucher is a GREAT BIG CHECK written by the State to a parent so that parent can choose the school his children attend.

But it is NOT the money of the voucher recipient, NOR is it money that the recipient "earned."

Having said that, I still prefer the voucher system.

[Blue Collar Christian]

No fish here. I just paid $5 to park at a public beach for my buddy's wedding. Oh, yeah, that's my beach. I'm the public. My single buddy has no children. He pays property taxes too. Can he have a voucher to use that money to perhaps get his PH FReepin D? The point is, you don't get taxed differently than the guy that has no kids in school. We all pay taxes so that the kids in this country get a basic education. Here's the fish that I think you smell; you are all for the tax payers giving you a voucher to put your child in a superior school system, instead of you putting the bucks together to manage it yourself, which would, in all fairness, be available to everybody now, thus making these "private schools" the primary souce of education for a much larger portion of our society and then you expect the atheists, agnostics, homosexuals, new age believers, devil worshippers, selfish don't care about no one elsers, and their simpathizers, who have now put their kids in your Catholic or other Christian school to leave well enough alone. That rotting fish is your own selfish desire for a first class ticket with a coach budget. You need to find a way to put together the kind of money it takes to put your kids through the private school without ever giving the general public, or special interest groups, i.e. the government say in your curriculum. This is still somewhat of a free country, opportunity knocks.

[1john2 3and4]

you are all for the tax payers giving you a voucher

let's see, allowing me to keep my own money is, in your example, taxpayers giving me something? that fallacy keeps creeping in to your points.

We all pay taxes so that the kids in this country get a basic education.

and what a great job the liberals are doing, huh?

My single buddy has no children. He pays property taxes too.

because you value public, gubmint edukashun, he's paying for your kid! lol! (remember, i'm using my money-not his or yours-for my kid).

Can he have a voucher to use that money (oops! remember now, his money)to perhaps get his PH FReepin D?

hmmmmmm, not a bad idea!

That rotting fish is your own selfish desire for a first class ticket with a coach budget.

if wanting to lower taxes to keep more of my money brands me as selfish, then im guilty, otherwise, please refrain from personal attacks.

[1john2 3and4]

This even included semenaries.

am i the only one that laughed at that rather timely mis-spelling?

[Piquaboy]

My time spent in Catholic grade school resulted in very long ears and bruised knuckles along with a whole lot of learning. Those Nun's did not take any lip.

[Blue Collar Christian]

What you want(and I like the idea) is a total revamp of the education system. I would like to pay no taxes for education and be responsible for any education I feel is needed or desired for my family, or whomever I feel compelled to aid. I feel the same way about charity being a personal responsibility instead of our unaccountable welfare system where feel good politicians want to help everybody out with your and my money. In both cases, how we spend our own money for education and charity would be so much more closely monitored because of our true interest in the effectiveness of our spending, and the government would have no say ever in how we are spending our money or educating our children. Believe me, I am not happy with the effectiveness of government spending on ANY issue. The less taxes you and I pay, and the smaller we can make the government, the better. If the voucher system goes into affect and causes a reduction of taxes and a shrinking of government, you can tell me "I told you so" and I'll eat humble pie. If it does not work, let's start a bill to remove the government from schools completely. I'll help, and I won't rub anything in your face.

P.S. I didn't mean any personal attack, I'm sorry.

[1john2 3and4]

apology accepted, we all get carried away at times (my "weak" point is laughing at some of the off-color hilarity that pops up on these threads quite regularly).

i dont want to re-vamp the system, really, it'll die anyway, IF we ever get real freedom of choice.

[NYer]

Don't forget the nuns! My second grade teacher, a nun, was quick with a ruler on the back of one's hand. She also had the superhuman ability to twist an apple in half with her bare hands. Great woman!

ROFLMAO!!! Those were the days. My HS Biology Teacher, a layperson, never showed up for classes, so they dragged a nun out of retirement. When we reached the chapter on Human Reproduction, she covered it all by saying: "A boy reaches puberty when he begins to grown peach fuzz on his face. Now turn to Chapter 6." Amazingly, most everyone educated by the nuns in my "baby boom" generation, can spell faultlessly and has an excellent command of English grammar. We can find states and countries on maps and follow directions. My catholic elementary school class size was 60. Sister kept everyone in their seat. Those nuns taught for God, not a paycheck.

Today, there are few, if any nuns still teaching. As someone else pointed out, catholic schools attract recent college graduates who need the experience. Oftentimes, their inexperience can lead to bigger problems.

[Blue Collar Christian]

This website is still a nice place to go though, eh?

[Jonx6]

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