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FBI interviews nurse who reported seeing two suspects on ferry "with large, heavy box"
National Post ^ | 12/31/02 | Adrian Humphreys, Ian Bailey, Heather Sokoloff

Posted on 12/31/2002 6:38:03 AM PST by jimbo123

Men wanted by the FBI ''in the broader context of 9/11 and the New Year'' were reportedly aboard a B.C. ferry carrying a large, heavy box and taking photographs of the docks earlier this month, the National Post has learned.

A rare international alert has been issued by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the five men of Arab descent. It says they are believed to have entered the United States illegally, reportedly from Canada, on or around Christmas Eve. The FBI is investigating a detailed account from a B.C. woman who says she saw two of the wanted men on Dec. 10 near Nanaimo.

Saying the men are considered armed and dangerous, U.S. officials are searching for links between the men and suspects on terrorist watch lists, including the U.S. Department of Justice's list of the 22 Most Wanted Terrorists.

Law enforcement officials said they are in a heightened state of alert ahead of the New Year's Eve celebrations, as they typically include large gatherings of people.

One U.S. official said the men were being sought in connection with a larger investigation into illegal documents such as passports and visas. The official declined to specify how many others may be involved, though one U.S. network reported yesterday that the five were part of a group of 19 people who recently obtained phony travel documents.

''It is part of a smuggling ring investigation,'' an FBI spokesman said. ''There is no specific or credible threat, but we just wanted to talk with them in the broader context of 9/11 and the New Year.''

Among the tips coming to the FBI since its public request for information is the compelling account by a nurse from B.C.'s Lower Mainland. The woman was interviewed yesterday by FBI agents after she reported seeing two of the five men, whose pictures were released by the bureau, aboard a ferry that sailed from the Vancouver Island ferry dock at Duke Point, 16 kilometres south of Nanaimo, to Tsawwassen, the large ferry terminal south of Vancouver.

The woman, who spoke to the National Post on condition her name not be published, said she was chilled when she saw the photograph of Iftikhar Khozmai Ali, 21, and Adil Pervez, 19, because she is sure they are the men she saw on her Dec. 10 trip.

She said Mr. Ali was sitting in the front forward lounge of the ferry, slumped in his seat with his arms crossed and a scowl on his face. She was so startled by his cold stare she considered phoning authorities to report him.

"This fellow stood out in my mind and bothered me. I told my husband and others about him when I got home. But what could I do? Phone the police saying a man looked angry?" she said.

She said the ferry arrived an hour or more late.

After the ferry arrived, she said another man, whom she now believes was Mr. Pervez, was taking photographs of the facility with a digital camera he held at chest height. "He continued to take photographs of the entrance to the ferry terminal, the ticket area and baggage area and escalator. He photographed the entire area -- and a tourist would just not want photos of that for souvenirs," she said.

"It was pouring rain and I thought, Why is he photographing the entrance to the ferry? It was unnerving to watch. He must have taken, easily, two dozen photographs. He then, together with another fellow, lifted a fairly large container -- about three feet by four feet -- into a van.

"The box bothered me because of the way it was wrapped and also the unusual size. It was poorly and cheaply wrapped. It looked like it was cardboard and wrapped in wrinkled brown paper and duct tape. I just found it odd. It took two of them to get it into the van."

She said she realizes her story seems strange but she said her career as a nurse requires her to be alert and observant.

"This piece of baggage, after taking the ferry for 12 years, bothered me when nothing else has; and so did these two people," she said.

Special Agent Jim Powers, based in the FBI's Bellingham, Wash., office, said the bureau is aware of the ferry tip but declined to say how agents learned of it.

"We are on top of that. We have the information and we're going to check on it," he said.

"It's being pursued through our office in Vancouver. They will ask the appropriate Canadian agency to look into it."

Earlier in the day, Sergeant Grant Learned, spokesman for the RCMP in B.C., said the Mounties were not, as far as he knew, involved in the case of the fugitives.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the government had received intelligence about the men but did not have specific information that they were planning anything around New Year's.

"But, you know, any time we have five individuals like this who enter the country illegally, we want to know why they are here, we want to question them," he said in Crawford, Tex., where George W. Bush, the U.S. President, is spending the holiday. "And that's why the FBI has enlisted the help of the public."

The manhunt raised the spectre of the arrest on Dec. 14, 1999, of Ahmed Ressam, a Montreal-based al-Qaeda operative, at a Washington state border crossing.

He was carrying a bomb designed to explode on New Year's Eve at Los Angeles International Airport.

Along with Mr. Ali and Mr. Pervez, the men wanted by the FBI were identified as: Abid Noraiz Ali, 25; Mustafa Khan Owasi, 33; and Akbar Jamal, 28. The FBI warned the names and ages could be false.

Steven Emerson, a terrorism specialist based in Washington, D.C., said his sources told him the men may have simply attempted to illegally immigrate to the United States, from Dubai via Canada.

"They were people who were being smuggled into the United States, not necessarily for terrorism purposes," he said.

David Harris, a former agent for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said Canadians should be concerned by the incident, even if the men entered the country for economic reasons rather than terrorism.

"What we are saying is that people who are totally undocumented have gained entry into the United States through Canada. As Canadians, we are under threat.

"The very presence of undocumented people in our midst is an ominous sign."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: britishcolumbia; canada; ferry; jihadnextdoor; pervez; portsecurity; terrorism
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Thanks, Canada.
1 posted on 12/31/2002 6:38:03 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
USA politicians should get their share of the blame as well. Refusing to put the military on the USA borders for the last 10-15 years is inexcusable.
2 posted on 12/31/2002 6:41:00 AM PST by xrp
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To: xrp
Candidly, I'm not sure how good the military would be on our borders. I think we'd be better off with a beefed-up Border Patrol presence : mainly because that's what they are trained and tasked for.
3 posted on 12/31/2002 6:55:40 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: jimbo123
Canada has fairies too?
4 posted on 12/31/2002 6:56:12 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: xrp
Simplistic!
5 posted on 12/31/2002 7:03:27 AM PST by verity
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To: jimbo123
"The very presence of undocumented people in our midst is an ominous sign."

Helooooooo California.

6 posted on 12/31/2002 7:05:14 AM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: genefromjersey
The military is designed to be shooters, not "may I see your green card" ers. Using them as police is fine only if they are able to "fire at will", which would cause such an uproar that they would be handicapped with more restrictions than "normal" law enforcement.
7 posted on 12/31/2002 7:16:27 AM PST by trebb
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To: jimbo123
Hmmm, angry undocumented Islamic stowaways sneaking across the border...taking pictures of facilities in detail...large heavy box in a van...I see nothing worrisome about this picture. (going to basement now, see you all tomorrow)
8 posted on 12/31/2002 7:34:59 AM PST by Sender
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To: jimbo123
A caller on Fox & friends this morning described a recent trip her daughter and a friend made to Canada. She explained that Canadian border officials asked for identification and explanations before allowing passage. The return trip into the US was considerably less strict and many vehicles breezed through without even a glance. Just food for thought.
9 posted on 12/31/2002 7:41:05 AM PST by Quilla
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To: jimbo123
Nervous bump.
10 posted on 12/31/2002 7:50:01 AM PST by aculeus
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To: jimbo123
"He continued to take photographs of the entrance to the ferry terminal, the ticket area and baggage area and escalator. He photographed the entire area -- and a tourist would just not want photos of that for souvenirs," she said.

They plan to hit us in the air, land and sea. Although I'm surprised they haven't hit a railcar yet.

11 posted on 12/31/2002 7:53:14 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: jimbo123
“They will ask the appropriate Canadian agency to look into it."

Please take a number... a Canadian hack will ignore you until you leave. Thank you.

12 posted on 12/31/2002 8:00:18 AM PST by johnny7
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To: jimbo123
He then, together with another fellow, lifted a fairly large container -- about three feet by four feet -- into a van.

I do hope even though not reported, she got the licence plate off that van.
Otherwise her reaction makes no sense.

13 posted on 12/31/2002 8:08:24 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: jimbo123
If they entered the country illegally then the major questions are....When were they last seen and by who?
14 posted on 12/31/2002 8:31:25 AM PST by Mixer
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To: jimbo123
Aren't those missing "suitcase" nukes about that size described by the nurse?
15 posted on 12/31/2002 8:32:46 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: jimbo123
MOST WANTED TERRORISTS


16 posted on 12/31/2002 8:35:46 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Publius6961
This doesn't make sense. She said she couldn't exactly report someone who simply "looked angry", but then describes a whole bunch of suspicious activity. By tomorrow, she may recall that they were trying on suicide belts.

???
17 posted on 12/31/2002 8:36:26 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: genefromjersey
The problem is that the border patrol has been completely politicized by Clinton and are only putting on a show. They have been ordered to make NO arrests. They are more interested in strip searching teenagers than they are in protecting the public.
18 posted on 12/31/2002 8:40:33 AM PST by Eva
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To: mdmathis6
Suitcase nuke was also my first thought.
19 posted on 12/31/2002 8:41:07 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: jimbo123
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This is a photograph of Abid Noraiz Ali. This is a photograph of Iftikhar Khozmai Ali. This is a photograph of Mustafa Khan Owasi.
ABID NORAIZ ALI
IFTIKHAR KHOZMAI ALI
MUSTAFA KHAN OWASI
This is a photograph of Adil Pervez. This is a photograph of Akbar Jamal.
ADIL PERVEZ
AKBAR JAMAL
The United States Government is seeking information regarding the whereabouts of the individuals shown above.

IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THESE PERSONS, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FBI OFFICE OR THE NEAREST AMERICAN EMBASSY OR CONSULATE.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. 20535
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20 posted on 12/31/2002 8:43:55 AM PST by Redcloak
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To: jimbo123
F.B.I.

CLICK HERE


21 posted on 12/31/2002 8:47:16 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: doug from upland
A briefcase nuke around the port area wouldn't do a heck of a lot of damage. But since these guys are rocket scientists, they may not realize that. The best you might do, is take out one boat and maybe a wharf. Or perhaps even a warehouse. I still think the best target in the whole area is the Needle downtown.
22 posted on 12/31/2002 8:48:20 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Thinkin' Gal
When such obvious activities are being witnessed it must be surreal. Also we have been conditioned to not offend nor racial profile.
24 posted on 12/31/2002 8:54:01 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: aculeus
Nervous bump.

I live only a few miles away from where these A-Rabs were seen with that box, so I'm a little nervous as well. The Seattle area is a prime target for nuclear terrorism, for a few reasons:
1) It's only a short distance away from a particularly porous part of the border.
2) The police up here are politically correct beyond one's most nightmarish imaginings, and are very hesitant to apprehend people who fit terrorist profiles.
3) Prime target area: Microsoft, ferries, etc.
4) The Puget Sound has countless inlets, and finding an unguarded one isn't difficult.

Yeah, it's nervous time alright.

25 posted on 12/31/2002 8:54:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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BumPing.

Everyone...stay safe!!

28 posted on 12/31/2002 8:56:28 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Eva
The problem is that the border patrol has been completely politicized by Clinton and are only putting on a show. They have been ordered to make NO arrests. They are more interested in strip searching teenagers than they are in protecting the public.

Precisely correct.

29 posted on 12/31/2002 8:56:52 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
Not to mention Murray and McDermott simply consider these 'freedom fighters'.....
30 posted on 12/31/2002 8:57:15 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Thanks for the heads up!
31 posted on 12/31/2002 8:58:20 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: jimbo123
"The FBI instantly arrested her and put out the statement that they finally caught the olympic Bomber, as well as the third guy on the grassy knoll."
32 posted on 12/31/2002 8:58:55 AM PST by Darksheare
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To: Rye
The Seattle area is a prime target for nuclear terrorism, for a few reasons:

Murry being on their side is a good one.

33 posted on 12/31/2002 8:59:23 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Rye
Political correctness may destroy this country. Thanks to the progressive, leftist DNC Clintonian's. And the irony is as we read this this very second the DEMOKRATS are freaking CAMPAIGNING to run this country 100%!!!
34 posted on 12/31/2002 8:59:36 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Quilla
It was reported some months ago that Canada was pissy with the U.S. because we were somewhat profiling mideastern's.
35 posted on 12/31/2002 9:01:52 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: anniegetyourgun
My mom told me the other day that she sees Chatty Patty at the local supermarket at least once a month. It looks like I'm going to have to go shopping with her from now on, hope Ms. Murray shows up, and then publicly humilate her (or attempt to, anyway).
36 posted on 12/31/2002 9:01:56 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!; *Jihad_Next_Door
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
37 posted on 12/31/2002 9:03:51 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Rye
Freepin' at Safeway, eh? Or do you suppose Miss PityPat shops only at Larrys?
38 posted on 12/31/2002 9:05:31 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: jimbo123
I understand Nurses are particularly underpaid in Canada; perhaps this woman could be offered a Green Card in exchange for her helpfulness.
39 posted on 12/31/2002 9:05:41 AM PST by crystalk
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To: anniegetyourgun
Payless market, in the city of Freeland, on Whidbey Island.
40 posted on 12/31/2002 9:06:55 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Political correctness may destroy this country. Thanks to the progressive regressive, leftist DNC Clintonian's. And the irony is as we read this this very second the DEMOKRATS are freaking CAMPAIGNING to run this country 100%!!!

I don't know which is worse. Democrat terrorists attacking from within, or Muslim terrorists attacking from without. Either way, their goal to destroy America is the same.

41 posted on 12/31/2002 9:07:25 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: xrp
USA politicians should get their share of the blame as well. Refusing to put the military on the USA borders for the last 10-15 years is inexcusable.

So you think that the military could have prevented five guys from making it into this country along a several thousand mile border? They are reported to have crossed the border in a car at a normal border crossing point, how would the military out in the North Dakota woods have prevented them from crossing?

When there is a will, there is a way. I guess you are too young to remember the 60's. People escaped from East Berlin all the time, even though they had to cross a heavily guarded border that was mined, had multiple sets of barbwire fencing, with a machine gun nest every few hundred yards. Putting military on the Mexican border might hinder the flow of every day immigrants, might even raise the cost of drugs but would not stop the entry of dedicated terrorists.

42 posted on 12/31/2002 9:08:17 AM PST by Dave S
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To: jimbo123; Fred Mertz; Thinkin' Gal
On my first read through this two things bothered me a lot: 1) On their trip through there with "the box", they drew unnecessary attention to themselves by taking all those photos. 2) They struggled the heavy box into a van right in front of everybody. Why wouldn't the box already be in the van?

Then I read more carefully and saw: ...because she is sure they are the men she saw on her Dec. 10 trip.

Now if the Dec. 10 trip was a trial run--which we know they do--they may have been deliberately acting suspiciously while moving a boxed up sink or something in order to embarrass any authorities who might "harass" them into opening the box. If nobody bothers them even with the double notice-me dance, then it's full speed ahead for the real thing.

We've read loads of reports of ME men taking copious pictures on the ferries--and NOT tourist type photos. I just don't think you draw that much attention to yourself while you're executing the real plan and carrying the real goods. I hope they didn't do the real deal Christmas eve. Air, land and sea--I agree.

43 posted on 12/31/2002 9:09:04 AM PST by Sal
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To: Rye
If I was a border guard, I would AUTOMATICALLY pull every ARAB/MIDDLE EASTERNER ASIDE and DO A CHECK...THIS goes for ALL GREEN CARDS, VISAS, etc! How hard could it be to run a name check through an FBI scanner (which they should have at every location)! If the people are pissed off ~ too BAD! We're PISSED off at them...
44 posted on 12/31/2002 9:09:48 AM PST by princess leah
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To: mdmathis6
Aren't those missing "suitcase" nukes about that size described by the nurse?

Yup. Now the question becomes, where were they going?

45 posted on 12/31/2002 9:10:14 AM PST by mhking
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To: anniegetyourgun
I love Larry's. : )
46 posted on 12/31/2002 9:10:51 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Rye
Stay safe..
47 posted on 12/31/2002 9:10:54 AM PST by Dog
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To: pepsionice
I still think the best target in the whole area is the Needle downtown.

Especially since Al Qaeda seems to like to return to the same target until they get the job done. Wasnt the needle reportedly one of their targets around the Millenium when the guy got caught planning to bomb LAX?

48 posted on 12/31/2002 9:12:23 AM PST by Dave S
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To: genefromjersey
yours -Candidly, I'm not sure how good the military would be on our borders. I think we'd be better off with a beefed-up Border
Patrol presence : mainly because that's what they are trained and tasked for.

mine - My sons are in the Marine Corps, an old family tradition, and we have had a few conversations over the holidays about the subject of military on the borders. My advice to them is this - you can be a Marine or a policeman not both to be both is to be dead. Take it to the bank.

best regards

the dozer
49 posted on 12/31/2002 9:13:03 AM PST by dozer7
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To: dollylolly
How manyillegal poured in from the south in the last 5 days ?

I'm sorry - I'm no fan (as most here already know) of illegals streaming in from south of the border. But I'd much rather be here to argue the point two weeks from now than to be picking up the pieces and mourning friends and family because we ignored the northern border and an AQ suicide squad got in and made a mess of things.

You want to discuss illegal immigration, then welcome to FR - pick a thread where it's being discussed. This is not the one to do it in.

50 posted on 12/31/2002 9:13:13 AM PST by mhking
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