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Taiwan: If China attacks, it'll be destroyed
Taipei Times | 01.01.03 | Chuck DeVore

Posted on 01/01/2003 2:44:26 PM PST by Enemy Of The State

If China attacks, it'll be destroyed

By Chuck DeVore

Wednesday, Jan 01, 2003,Page 8 World events are presenting you with many options. The US is preparing to attack Iraq and still has considerable military and intelligence assets focused on Afghanistan and the war on terror.

North Korea is causing alarm while a new president has been elected in South Korea who seems more worried about US troops than Pyongyang's nuclear weapons.

India and Pakistan still appear close to conflict (and all those nuclear missiles you supplied to Pakistan may soon provide a rich payoff).

The US is busy and distracted with the "Axis of Evil" and the world is full of turmoil.

But, there are negative trends to consider as well. Your economy is filled with inconsistencies: you claim high growth, yet your consumption of energy appears to have declined and you have dangerously large amounts of bad debt.

The US has made serious military inroads to your west, undoing years of steady Chinese diplomacy in Central Asia.

Further, US military-to-military cooperation with Taiwan is increasing, as is the flow of arms to the "rebellious province."

But, you know that a successful military adventure would serve to unite the masses behind the Chinese Communist Party while burying concerns of corruption and economic malaise.

China's military has never been stronger and the US has never appeared weaker in the Pacific. China is a vibrant, growing power and Asia's natural hegemon, while you perceive the US as a declining power, too self-absorbed and accustomed to comfort to be a threat to a powerful and hungry nation such as China.

You think this a time for opportunity, for action, believing that the US could not answer an attack on Taiwan until it was too late. Clearly you are preparing for conflict. Your non-stop war games opposite Taiwan grow ever larger and more elaborate while at the same time making your opponents numb to their vast scale. You have even taken the extraordinary step this month of encouraging Chinese citizens to own gold -- a convertible form of money not easily subject to US economic pressure.

Because the US will be busy and distracted for several months, military action against Taiwan would achieve complete surprise -- no one in Washington, or even Taipei for that matter, expects it. You would enjoy initial success, landing hundreds of thousands of soldiers by sea and air before the US could react. You believe that Washington, presented with the inevitable, a mainland conquest of Taiwan backed up by the threat of nuclear war -- either by proxy through North Korea, or by a direct threat to Los Angeles (again) -- would back down. China would reign supreme in Asia with even Tokyo and Seoul kowtowing to Beijing.

But first, a caution from history: Japan had similar misperceptions about the US in 1941. Imperial Japan's leaders convinced themselves that one strong blow would cause the US to cower and ask for peace, giving Tokyo what Tokyo wanted: a free hand in Asia. As others have done, they mistook the US' love of peace for weakness.

But, what if the US did fight for Taiwan's freedom and democracy? How might that affect your plans for Taiwan?

America's considerable submarine fleet will be mostly available in the coming months, so the US would soon break your blockade of Taiwan while the Chinese fleet would be resting at the bottom of the ocean with scattered remnants confined to port. The US Air Force will be occupied with Iraq for the briefest of times and could soon be refocused on the Western Pacific, severing your air supply link to Taiwan. As your ability to supply your troops on Taiwan diminished, their ranks would melt away. Soon, even the masses in China would know of the disaster and the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) grip on power would evaporate.

Meanwhile, your attempts to use nuclear weapons to intimidate the US, Japan and South Korea would likely fail -- at least in the US, and that's what really counts. If you learned only one thing about the American people after Sept. 11 it should be this: they aren't much impressed by threats from thugs.

The US might pay a terrible price to preserve democracy on Taiwan -- but the price paid by the CCP would be even higher: complete annihilation.

Yes, the US is busy and distracted, but you may want to reconsider.

Chuck DeVore served in the Reagan-era Pentagon as a special assistant for foreign affairs and is the co-author of China Attacks.


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1 posted on 01/01/2003 2:44:26 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Taiwan=The mouse that roared. Wish them luck though.
2 posted on 01/01/2003 2:45:20 PM PST by Sparta
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To: tallhappy; maui_hawaii; Hopalong; backhoe; Free the USA; Asclepius; PhilDragoo; rightwing2; ...
Ping!
3 posted on 01/01/2003 2:45:40 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
If Taiwan thinks we are going to start WWIII to defend them, they better guess again.
4 posted on 01/01/2003 2:51:01 PM PST by CometBaby
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To: Enemy Of The State
http://www.emeraldesigns.com/matchup/military.shtml

ChiComs vs Taiwanese.
5 posted on 01/01/2003 2:52:29 PM PST by Sparta
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To: CometBaby
If Taiwan thinks we are going to start WWIII to defend them, they better guess again.

No young feller.....China would start WW3.

As far as the FREE Chinese on Taiwan........

Do you seriously think that they don't have their own nukes?

After all, the basket cases, India, Pakistan and North Korea have loudly proclaimed their admission to the nuclear club.

Israel and Taiwan are quiet.

Think about it, young feller!

6 posted on 01/01/2003 2:59:48 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Sparta
That would be the mouse that roared while having the Worlds most powerful military sticking up for him.
7 posted on 01/01/2003 2:59:57 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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To: CometBaby
'scuse me.......young lady.
8 posted on 01/01/2003 3:01:16 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Enemy Of The State
Of course.
9 posted on 01/01/2003 3:09:14 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Enemy Of The State
CIA - The World Factbook 2002 -- Taiwan
Top banner The World Factbook 2002. Select a Country. ...
Description: Information about the country from the CIA reference source.
Category: Regional > Asia > Taiwan > Society and Culture > Politics

FWIW, I've stories for years that Taiwan got some or all of old South Africa's nukes...

10 posted on 01/01/2003 3:26:23 PM PST by backhoe
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To: CometBaby
If China invades Taiwan, it'll be them starting WWIII.

My personal feelings on the matter are: Better now than later...

Wonder what they needed that nuclear technology that they got during the Clinton years for? I'd guess that we're going to have to go some rounds with them sooner or later, and like I said, better now than later.

(Such a war might also solve that problem of all those products at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Meijers, etc. made in China, as well as China's permanent Most Favored Nation status, in spite of how they treat their citizens)...
11 posted on 01/01/2003 3:28:51 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil
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this is a very unpopular thing to say...I wouldn't have said it a year ago...but the Taiwanese businessmen don't seem to care about what is going on, they way they are rushing headlong into china to open businsesses. Of course there are those here on FR that will never believe it no matter what.
12 posted on 01/01/2003 3:32:07 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod
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To: Enemy Of The State
The culmination of any Mainland effort against Taiwan must be an amphibious assault on the island. The preparatory campaign could take several forms; one of the most likely being a phased assault, starting with the reduction of the Makung island group in the Taiwan straits, in conjunction with an air campaign to beat down the defenses, plus a submarine and mine blockade to starve out the Taiwanese.

It will be an amphibious assault, requiring the maximum Chinese naval, ground and air effort, probably directed at:

the coastal region between Tung-Hsiao and San-Wan. Midway between the northern Taipei urban agglomeration and the central populated region around Taichung, this coastal area is free of annoying mud-flats, and offers open terrain suitable for the build-up of a beach-head and subsequent decisive maneuver. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/taiwan-geo.htm

It cannot be encouraging to the mainland Chinese that the US Navy has reoriented itself away from "Blue Water" or open-ocean warfare, to "combat in the littoral", i.e. warfare right off an enemy coast. The new Zumwalt class destroyers, the Virginia SSNs, and the new CVX are designed not to fight the the Soviet Navy, but another foe in confined waters like the South China Sea. The USN is being optimized to defeat an attack of precisely the sort that the Chinese would have to mount to take Taiwan.

The mere existence of the USN creates an intolerable operational risk for the Peoples Liberation Army Navy (yes, that is the Chinese Navy's name). Unless they can be utterly sure beforehand that the US will not intervene, it would be folly of the highest order to embark on an amphibious assault. They might try it if Hillary were the President, but not otherwise.

13 posted on 01/01/2003 3:32:32 PM PST by wretchard
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To: Enemy Of The State
A Chinese attack on Taiwan is a worry -- we attack Iraq, North Korea takes advantage of this to invade South Korea, and China takes advantage of this to invade Taiwan. The problem is that most of our carriers would be in position for Iraq. Our submarines, on the other hand...
14 posted on 01/01/2003 3:35:26 PM PST by omega4412
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
My personal feelings on the matter are: Better now than later...

I agree, if WWIII is inevitable. Better to fight on our terms than others.

15 posted on 01/01/2003 3:39:34 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Sparta
The mouse is actually in a very strong position. An amphibious attack on Taiwan would need to be several times the size of Operation Overlord. The Chinese know that they don't have an effective amount of sealift, airlift or the ability to enforce naval and air superiority.

There are only a few beaches on the eastern side of Taiwan suitable for mass landings, and they are well prepared kill zones covered by artillery, mines, tanks, and other obstacles.

They could pound the island with missiles that may or may not get by the PAC-3s we sold them. They could threaten to or actually use nuclear weapons against Taiwan, but that would destroy the very thing they want: the riches, expertise, and infrastructure of the island.

Plus, they face the very real risk of being badly humiliated by a very tiny opponent. The Chinese Army made it all of 20 miles into Vietnam in '79 before being torn to shreds and sent packing. Many of the chronic weaknesses that were present then are present now.

Does that mean they won't try? Who knows. Miscalculation and overconfidence are the seeds of many a military disaster.

16 posted on 01/01/2003 3:44:29 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
better now than later.

I don't even want to think about it. I believe our cup already over runneth.

17 posted on 01/01/2003 3:50:04 PM PST by TexKat
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To: Enemy Of The State
I have a hard time believing that China will prosecute a war against Taiwan. The good times are rolling in China. Matter of fact, large numbers of Taiwanese are commuting to China for employment.

The Chinese have most everything they want without war anyway. Huge numbers of upscale rich Chinese own huge homes, are buying expensive cars, and are living the Vida Rico. Remember when the American recon plane was downed by their nutso flyboy? Remember where they housed our personnel? Near the red light district of the Chinese party town.

Nope, I don't buy it. They want Taiwan, but they are getting it bit by bit anyway. They aren't going to kill the cash cow by going to war.

18 posted on 01/01/2003 3:54:19 PM PST by Nachum
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To: omega4412
If that were to happen, then we would have to strike with missles, ballistic and nuclear and then make sure the 1st strike gets em all. I'm sure the Chinese are smart enough not to put that kind of plan to the test. We can take them out quick. Kill the leadership in China and then what have you got, a lot of happy peasants in the country side that will be giving a parade for Bush, same with NK.
19 posted on 01/01/2003 3:58:08 PM PST by agincourt1415
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20 posted on 01/01/2003 4:04:23 PM PST by Free the USA
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