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Boyd: Foul-mouthed maverick changed the art of war
nzherald ^ | December 30, 2002 | ROGER FRANKLIN

Posted on 01/01/2003 4:00:31 PM PST by Bobibutu

NEW YORK - The coming assault on Baghdad already has its first hero: Colonel John Boyd, a foul-mouthed, insubordinate fighter pilot who has been in his grave at Arlington National Cemetery for almost five years.

When Iraq's tyrant is brought down, that inevitable victory will be Boyd's doing. You won't hear Boyd's name being cited in Rose Garden speeches, however. Nor will the Pentagon be authorising any posthumous decorations for the man who, through 30 years of bureaucratic guerilla warfare, transformed America's military.

Even though he gave them many of the tools that made Operation Desert Storm such a sweeping success in 1991, the brass continued to hate Boyd with such a passion that, as a final sign of contempt, they sent only a single general as their official representative at his funeral.

But without his influence, the US would almost certainly be preparing to enter Iraq much as it fled Saigon: a vast, muscle-bound killing machine based on the assumption that big budgets and expensive weapons assured victory.

That approach didn't work in Vietnam, nor even in tiny Grenada, where a US expedition force required two days in 1983 to subdue a squad of 200 Cuban construction workers.

"Thank God they have dumb sons of bitches in the Kremlin, too," Boyd fumed not long after. "If they weren't thick as ****, Grenada would prove how weak we really are."

Boyd's disgust was palpable. Army units on the island couldn't call in artillery support from Navy ships because their radios worked on different frequencies. Nor could soldiers on the ground stop air strikes hitting the wrong targets. Almost 30 Americans were killed in the conflict, most the victims of friendly fire.

"Grenada was confusion cubed," Boyd told me in 1985, after the Pentagon released a report whitewashing the invasion's flaws and follies. "Our top guys know the first rule of warfare: always protect your rear."

Boyd devoted the latter half of his career to catching those generals with their pants down. The first half had been spent in the cockpit, first over Korea and later as an instructor at the US Air Force "Top Gun" flight schools.

Had he been just another joystick virtuoso, Boyd would have had a traditional career: step by step up the ladder until retirement, when he could have been expected to join one of the weapons companies, pitching former colleagues on the latest, gold-plated guns, planes and tanks.

That's how the procurement game had always been played at the Pentagon, where a weapon's usefulness was of secondary importance to its cost. Big budgets still mean bigger staffs for the Pentagon's project-development officers - and bigger salaries, too, when they leave to work for General Dynamics, Grumman, or Boeing. To Boyd, the system produced "gold-plated **** shovels" that "hurt us more than the enemy".

So, after rewriting the air combat rulebook he began looking at the broader flaws in US military theory. They were, he concluded, the same ones that had led to disaster in Vietnam, the ultimate symbol of which he saw as the F-111.

"The only good thing about the F-111," he said, "is that the dumbass Soviets believed our propaganda and built their very own piece of useless ****, the Backfire bomber."

His idea of the perfect fighter plane was the F-16. Small, cheap and simple, it used only enough technology to make it a more efficient killing machine - fly-by-wire control systems to save the weight of hydraulics, one engine to keep it small, cut costs and make it hard to target.

When superiors tried to silence his criticisms by pushing him into a dead-end office job, Boyd developed the concept on the sly by "stealing" a million dollars worth of computer time, giving his brainchild a variety of misleading names and slipping the evolving concept past bureaucratic enemies before they realised what they had just authorised. It earned him a wealth of grief.

There will be plenty of F-16s over Iraq pretty soon, but that won't be Boyd's greatest contribution. Of much greater impact will be the culmination of his life's work, a treatise on military tactics that he penned after retiring to Florida and seeing the F-16 accepted, against all odds, as a frontline mainstay.

"He called it Observe-Orient-Decide-Act - commonly known as the OODA loop," says Boyd's biographer Robert Coram. "Simply rendered, the OODA loop is a blueprint for the manoeuvre tactics that allow one to attack the mind of an opponent, to unravel its commander even before a battle begins."

To Coram and others, including Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Boyd is "the most influential military thinker since Sun Tzu wrote The Art of War 2400 years ago".

So why should pacifists cheer the memory of a man whose life was devoted to perfecting the use of martial force? Because, if the Iraq invasion goes even remotely according to plan, Saddam's downfall will be short and relatively bloodless. Isolated, unable to trust his generals and with his every move tracked by the cheap, plentiful, all-seeing Predator drones that Boyd also helped to develop, Saddam will have two options: surrender or perish.

The Baghdad campaign will reflect Boyd's greatest insight, the one he borrowed from Sun Tzu. The sweetest victory, said the Chinese sage, is the one that does not demand a battle. Even if you have the weaponry to win it at a canter.


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More insight into Boyd
1 posted on 01/01/2003 4:00:31 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu
Boyd was one of a dying breed, a pure warrior who could effectively articulate the art of war and cut through the bureaucratic BS that infests 95% of the Pentagon. (As an aside, there are many officers who are "vying" for a tour in Southwest Asia as a means to promote their careers - God help America and save us from these sycophants and imposters).
2 posted on 01/01/2003 4:14:43 PM PST by Archangelsk
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To: Archangelsk
There is a growing number of his followers in gov mil circles - most may be found in the Marines... B


December 31, 2002
http://sftt.org/dwa/2003/1/1/2.html
Col. John Boyd: The Most Influential Unknown Hero
By Ed Offley

Look up the official U.S. Air Force fact sheet on the F-16 Falcon, and you will read in clear but understated terms this description of what aviation experts agree is the most successful fighter aircraft ever built:

"The F-16 Fighting Falcon is a compact, multi-role fighter aircraft. It is highly maneuverable and has proven itself in air-to-air combat and air-to-surface attack. It provides a relatively low-cost, high-performance weapon system for the United States and allied nations."

First conceived in the mid-1960s, the F-16 is flown today by military pilots in 23 countries from Bahrain to Venezuela. Over 2,200 of the single-engine Falcons have been built, and the U.S. Air Force operates more than 1,380 of them. It has performed with distinction in Operation Desert Storm, Kosovo and the long-running twilight air war enforcing the Iraqi "no-fly" zones.

But nowhere in the official Air Force archives will you find the fascinating and gripping story of how this military aircraft came to be - how the F-16 was conceived and designed by a maverick Air Force pilot leading a tiny cabal of military officers and DoD civilians without the Air Force's knowledge or approval. Nor will you find how once the lightweight fighter plane left the drawing boards, the collective leadership of the Air Force waged a fierce - and ultimately unsuccessful - bureaucratic guerrilla war to have the project killed and its supporters destroyed.

Thanks to author Robert Coram, the full story of this astonishing rebellion within the corridors of the Pentagon comes to life in the informative and entertaining biography of its ringleader, Air Force Col. John Boyd.

When you read Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War (Little, Brown and Company, New York, 2002), you will be amazed to learn that Boyd's involvement in the struggle to field an effective new fighter aircraft constitutes only one chapter of his distinguished, controversial and often contentious life.

The most amazing aspect of John Boyd's record of achievement is not that it is so profound, but rather that the pilot and his record remain unheard of to most Americans. "Boyd was one of the most important unknown men of his time," Coram writes. "He did what so few men are privileged to do: He changed the world. But much of what he did, or the impact of what he did, was either highly classified or of primary concern to the military."

Born and raised in the working-class city of Erie, Pa., Boyd was determined at an early age to succeed, and discovered the U.S. military as the vehicle for his growth. After a brief period serving as an enlisted man at the tail end of World War II, he won an officer's commission and became a fighter pilot who flew combat missions in Korea. Later, while serving as an instructor at the Fighter Weapons School in Nevada, he became known as "Forty-second Boyd" who could defeat any other pilot in mock aerial combat in that amount of time.

As a young captain, Boyd became the first military aviator to codify and formally break down the mysteries of air-to-air combat in a hand-typed memorandum, the "Aerial Attack Study," that soon became official Air Force doctrine. As a 33-year-old graduate engineering student at Georgia Tech, he pioneered a new theory of aircraft performance - the "Energy-Maneuverability Theory" - that would revolutionize the design of all future combat aircraft.

Brash, insightful and profane, Boyd outflanked the generals, cursed the defense industrialists and nurtured a small band of disciples who would grow to form the Military Reform Movement, an unofficial but influential group dedicated to fielding weapons and equipment that would enable America's military to survive and win on the battlefield - not merely line the pockets of the defense industry and its toadies in Congress and the Pentagon.

Coram's book is crammed with hilarious, outrageous and jaw-dropping anecdotes of Boyd's encounters with the brass and his own people. A chain-smoker, Boyd once set a general on fire with his cigar. Another time, Boyd so flummoxed a colonel with his masteries of the facts that the officer foamed at the mouth and fell out of his chair in a fit, prompting them to announce the invention of the Air Force "air to rug maneuver." He gleefully stole more than $1 million in computer time from an Air Force unit so that he could refine a theory on aircraft design - and bragged about it to a senior general. He tormented his supporters with late-night telephone calls that would drag on for hours. One junior aide who lived 25 miles from the Pentagon would tear himself away from Boyd's late-evening office disquisitions and drive home, only to have the phone start ringing the instant he turned the key in his door - Boyd had timed his subordinate's commute to the second.

After retiring from the Air Force as a colonel, Boyd turned down many offers from industry in order to serve as an unpaid Pentagon consultant, continuing his revolutionary work as a civilian. His focus shifted from aircraft design to the wider issue of analyzing the reasons for success in conflict. This led to Boyd's seminal work, "Patterns of Conflict," an unpublished, two-day briefing that he gave for almost two decades throughout the military. This lecture first revealed Boyd's breakthrough, the "OODA Loop" (for Observation-Orientation-Decision-Action) a theory of how military commanders can win by getting inside the mind and outpace the decision cycle of the enemy commander.

Boyd's breakthrough theory would play a pivotal, but hidden role in the shaping of the U.S. victory in Operation Desert Storm, Coram writes. Then-Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney consulted extensively with Boyd and credits the retired fighter pilot with helping him resist an initial Army plan that would have employed the coalition ground forces in a pitched battle with the Iraqi army. Instead, the Army used the now-famous "Left Hook" flanking movement to encircle and destroy the foe.

The U.S. Marine Corps also embraced Boyd's theories of "Fourth Generational Warfare" and today honor him as one of their own.

As impressive as Boyd's intellect and his drive for self-improvement stands out, one comes away from Coram's biography with an even greater respect for the fighter pilot's ironclad integrity. He set generals on fire and outflanked the bureaucrats because he saw that they were enemies of his solitary mission: To give America's fighting men and women the best tools to attain victory.

His friends and former subordinates all recall a standard Boyd speech that distilled the moral dilemma that sooner or later confronts every person working in the Pentagon: "Tiger (he called all of his favorites that), one day you will come to a fork in the road. And you are going to have to make a decision about which direction you want to go. You will have to make compromises and you will have to turn your back on your friends. But you will be a member of the club and you will get promoted and you will get good assignments. Or you can go that way and you can do something - something for your country and for your Air Force and yourself."

There is no doubt in which direction John Boyd headed.

Boyd died of cancer in 1997 and is buried at Arlington National Cemetery. But his rich legacy is preserved in two ways: Several of his longtime supporters, including Thomas P. Christie and Franklin "Chuck" Spinney, still work in the Pentagon on procurement issues. Several Boyd colleagues have also compiled a collection of his essays and briefings at their website, Defense and the National Interest, for anyone interested to read about this dedicated officer and his revolutionary theories.

Ed Offley is Editor of DefenseWatch. He can be reached at dweditor@yahoo.com.

3 posted on 01/01/2003 4:19:16 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Valin
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4 posted on 01/01/2003 4:39:35 PM PST by Yehuda
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To: Bobibutu
bump...
never heard of Boyd...until now...
(but I guess I have the excuse of being a civilian...)
5 posted on 01/01/2003 4:50:28 PM PST by VOA
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To: Bobibutu
Good post. Thanks.
6 posted on 01/01/2003 4:54:57 PM PST by T Ruth
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To: *war_list; Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
7 posted on 01/01/2003 5:01:57 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Bobibutu
Thanks for the education. Let's pray there are more like him out there, and that we don't forget his lessons.

(Can't we just shoot all the bureaucrats?)

8 posted on 01/01/2003 5:03:02 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Bobibutu
I ordered a copy of Coram's book on Boyd yesterday. I'm looking forward to it.
9 posted on 01/01/2003 5:07:39 PM PST by hc87
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To: Yehuda
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10 posted on 01/01/2003 5:24:20 PM PST by fightinJAG
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To: VOA
You can find a more in depth article on Col. Boyd's theroies here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/803820/posts

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

11 posted on 01/01/2003 5:41:32 PM PST by alfa6
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To: Teacher317
"Let's pray there are more like him out there, and that we don't forget his lessons."

There are.. they call themselves "Boydians" numbers are growing ... one wonders what could have been acomplished had there been upper management support for his ideas in the beginning.

You are welcome... not "all" of them... some have been self converted.... B
12 posted on 01/01/2003 5:48:02 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; Bobibutu
Thanks for the ping to an interesting read!
13 posted on 01/01/2003 5:59:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Bobibutu
Great post!

'83 Kunsan AFB Wolfpack bump!

Didn't know who was the genius behind the F-16. Gotta find and read his biography.
14 posted on 01/01/2003 7:02:25 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: *bang_list
For all to consider.
15 posted on 01/01/2003 7:12:48 PM PST by Copernicus
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To: Bobibutu
Latenight bump
16 posted on 01/01/2003 9:41:49 PM PST by Valin
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17 posted on 01/02/2003 7:31:56 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: MonroeDNA
http://www.d-n-i.net/second_level/boyd_military.htm

Boyd and Military Strategy

Independent of any specific geographical conflict, what sorts of strategies deal best with the types of conflict that go under the names "fourth generation warfare," "low intensity conflict," or, as favored by the late American strategist, Col John R. Boyd, "highly irregular warfare"? For our potential adversaries have surely learned that to challenge our high technology fighters and tanks in a "fair fight" will only produce defeat, but they may also be learning from Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, and even Iraq that there may be other ways to achieve their goals. Boyd's insights on what makes an effective competitor may help us understand our strengths as well as our vulnerabilities in this new environment and what we should do to achieve our national interests at acceptable cost.

Boyd's OODA "Loop" From "The Essence of Winning and Losing," with commentary. 91 KB PowerPoint presentation. [Also works as a slide show. Printer-friendly version on page 5.]

Interested readers can find excerpts from Boyd's Discourse on Winning and Losing in HTML format, as well as presentations by several of his colleagues, at "Theory of Maneuver Conflict" on War, Chaos, and Business. The next section presents the elements of the Discourse in their original format.

Tribute To John R. Boyd, by Harry Hillaker. The designer of the F-16 pays his respects to the father of the F-16. From the July 1997 edition of Code One, the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company magazine for the fighter community.

The Strategy of the Fighter Pilot, by Keith Hammonds. Boyd's simple, elegant OODA loop works great in business, too. In the June 2002 Fast Company.
A Discourse on Winning and Losing

This is the title Boyd gave to his collection of briefings on competitive strategy (widely known as the "Green Book," with apologies to Wittgenstein). Defense and the National Interest is pleased to present these as a resource for research and implementation. They are Adobe Acrobat (.pdf) images of the actual charts used in his legendary 8-hour briefing sessions. You are welcome to download these for your personal use, but in accordance with Boyd's express wishes, these versions are not authorized for commercial reprint. Please note that they are copyrighted by the Estate of John R. Boyd. (Download a free Acrobat reader here.)

Introduction The Abstract and Conceptual Spiral (July/August 1992). An overview of the rest of the Discourse and introducing his "Pattern for Vitality and Growth" (411 KB)

Patterns of Conflict (December 1986) Boyd's monumental look at what makes any organization competitive. Encompassing 2,500 years of the history of conflict, this briefing introduces his famous "OODA loop" concept. (2,845 KB)

Organic Design for Command and Control (May 1987) Perhaps the most approachable of Boyd's briefings and as applicable to business (or to the PTA) as to war. (399 KB) Also available in HTML on War, Chaos, and Business.

Strategic Game of ? and ? (June 1987) The heart of competitive strategy. A noted psychiatrist recently observed that the goal of Boyd's strategy is to inflict severe psychological trauma on the opposing commander prior to any actual engagement. This briefing tells how to do it. (573 KB)

Destruction and Creation (September 1976) Boyd's original paper on strategy, linking such diverse sources as Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem and the Second Law of Thermodynamics to the practice of strategy. (in HTML with links to Chuck Spinney's commentary "Evolutionary Epistimology" on War, Chaos, and Business).

The Essence of Winning and Losing (January 1996) Boyd's "Last Briefing" A 5-chart summary of the Discourse, including the final version of the "OODA loop." (in HTML on War, Chaos, and Business)

New Conception for Air-to-Air Combat (August 1976) Although predating and so not included in the Discourse, this briefing is an important way station on the road to the OODA loop. Here is where Boyd concluded that there was something missing in his own energy-maneuverability concept and ended with the observation that "He who can handle the quickest rate of change survives." This proved to be the observation that led Boyd from air-to-air combat towards a more general theory of competition. (1,292 KB .pdf)

A Swift, Elusive Sword, presented at the Fall 2001 Boyd Conference in Quantico, Virginia. A 180 KB PDF slide show that illustrates themes from the book.

"Shock-based Operations: New Wine in Old Bottles," Lt Col John N. T. Shanahan, May 2001. Doctrine in the 21st Century must deal with opponents who change rapidly to adapt to our technological superiority. The best way to deal with these "complex adaptive systems" is with a doctrine that produces shock and paralysis, not one that tries to bludgeon them into submission. (378 KB MS Word document.)

Bulging Muscles Won't Win The Next War, By David Hackworth. Gustavus Adolphus was a master of using a small, highly trained and motivated, agile force—a lá Boyd—to defeat his fearsomely-armed, but ponderous, imperial adversary. Now, at the dawn of the 21st Century, we have become the muscle-bound imperials. Reprinted from Soldiers for the Truth.

East vs. West–The Strategic Challenge of the 21st Century. How operating inside an opponent's OODA loop can help achieve the ancient goal of "formlessness." Originally presented at the Air War College in 1995. 1.5 MB PowerPoint presentation.

Because Boyd was not well known to the public (or even the military) at large, many people are unfamiliar with his career and the origins of his strategy. For those who are interested in learning more, Defense and the National Interest presents a collection of biographies and synopses of his career.

Genghis John, By Chuck Spinney, originally published in the Naval Institute Proceedings. This is the most approachable introduction and overview, written for a general audience.

"From Air Force Fighter Pilot to Marine Corps Warfighting: Colonel John Boyd, His Theories on War, and their Unexpected Legacy," thesis by Major Jeffrey L. Cowan, U.S. Air Force, for the Master of Military Studies degree, USMC Command & Staff College. A new professional biography that traces Boyd's career and development of his strategic concepts. Written from the viewpoint of a USAF fighter pilot, but with a solid background in doctrines and practices of land warfare.

"The Essential Boyd," Dr. Grant Hammond, Director of the Center for Strategy and Technology, Air War College. An in-depth study of the evolution of Boyd's strategic ideas by one of the Air Force's leading civilian strategists. Goes into considerable detail on the origins and implications of Boyd's concept of using time as a weapon. On War, Chaos, and Business.

Prologue to best-selling author Robert Coram's new biography of Col Boyd. Scheduled for publication in November 2002 by Little, Brown & Company, New York. On War, Chaos, and Business. Preorder now available at Amazon.

The Strategic Importance of Boyd and the OODA Loop, an excerpt from the recent book, Modern Strategy, by the distinguished British strategist and author, Colin Gray.

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462 Book Review: BOYD: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War, November 5, 2002
455 How Col. John Boyd Beat the Generals, August 12, 2002
441 The Great American Gong Show: Woodrow Wilson Meets Dr. Strangelove, February 23, 2002
388 Boyd's Question: Are Sanctions on Iraq a Sensible Grand Strategy? September 24, 2000
350 NTC Problems Suggest a Deeper Question: Ready for What? March 17, 2000

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Why Synchronization Dumbs Down Your OODA Loop, March 15, 2000

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291 Don't Mess With the OODA Loop, June 24, 1999
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274 Drive By Shootings and Moral Influence, May 16, 1999
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Driving Bill and Madeline Bananas, April 28, 1999
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A Balkan Sun Tzu vs. the NATO Clausewitz: A Tentative Interpretation of the Serbo - NATO War, April 4, 1999
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READY FOR WHAT? -- Black Hawk Down: A Story of Modern War vs. The Oracles in the Cave, March 5, 1999
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Ready for What: The Sclerotic Mentality of Star Wars vs. the Poor Man's Nuke, December 6, 1998
199 Genghis John, October 9, 1998
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Admiral Gehman Changes His Tune … or Why Emperors Lose their Clothes, August 28, 1998
18 posted on 01/02/2003 9:44:47 AM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Beelzebubba
Yummies! Thx

B
19 posted on 01/02/2003 9:48:42 AM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Poohbah; section9; Dog; Luis Gonzalez; JohnHuang2; Miss Marple; Howlin; mhking; rdb3; ...
John Boyd ping!
20 posted on 01/02/2003 9:49:53 AM PST by hchutch
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To: Bobibutu
Sounds like a great guy. Our country is a better, safer place thanks to him.

Point of logic: The profanity has nothing to do with his influence, wisdom, and success.

21 posted on 01/02/2003 10:09:00 AM PST by Drawsing
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To: Bobibutu
Excellent article and thanks for posting it.
22 posted on 01/02/2003 12:04:52 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Bobibutu
Is this the same Col. Boyd that Chuck Yeager tells about in his book?
23 posted on 01/02/2003 1:24:57 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Bobibutu
The problem I have with this apparent upswelling of "Boydism" is not Boyd himself, but of the inevitable legion of idiots who will attempt to behave like Boyd without having the mental acuity to back it up.

Note, for example, the implicit assumption that all in the normal chain of command are idiots, and that those who buck the chain of command are heros. In reality, it's often just the opposite: those in the chain of command often see the big picture, and those bucking it are fixated on some personal obsession.

Are there real problems in the normal chain of command? Sure. Was Boyd a genius? Very probably. Will a bunch of people acting like Boyd make things better? Good Lord, no. They'll merely fight like rabid polecats for their own personal obsessions, and they'll make things worse than before.

24 posted on 01/02/2003 1:41:04 PM PST by r9etb
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To: nightdriver
Is this the same Col. Boyd that Chuck Yeager tells about in his book?

No. You're thinking of Maj. Gen. Albert Boyd. He was chief of the flight test division in 1947, when Yeager broke the sound barrier.

25 posted on 01/02/2003 1:44:03 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
"You're thinking of Maj. Gen. Albert Boyd."

You're right. Thank you. I remember, now, that Yeager called him "Al" Boyd.

26 posted on 01/02/2003 2:25:58 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: r9etb
There will always be abusers in and of any system:

"Note, for example, the implicit assumption that all in the normal chain of command are idiots, and that those who buck the chain of command are heros. In reality, it's often just the opposite: those in the chain of command often see the big picture, and those bucking it are fixated on some personal obsession."

I do not see this as Boydism - rather arrogance. Boyd taught specific strategies and concepts - that work i.e., 4th Gen Warfare - not attitudes. And your point is well taken.

B
27 posted on 01/02/2003 4:07:57 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: nightdriver
Haven't read Yeager... my guess.. both pilots in the military at the same time... both very bright bulbs... w/mucho huevos...

A high probibility.

B
28 posted on 01/02/2003 4:13:31 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: r9etb
Thank you - I stand corrected..

Low probibility :-(

B
29 posted on 01/02/2003 4:15:05 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: r9etb
Good observation... this was the primary factor that sent
me out of the military and have been self employed for the majority of my working life...
30 posted on 01/02/2003 4:20:21 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: r9etb
Re reading your comment.... you have hit it right on... A C T I N G like Boyd rather than T H I N K I N G like him...


Bingo - you nailed it... that is the flaw... and we all dont have to have MENSA IQs to be able to think using his simple to understand concepts...


B
31 posted on 01/02/2003 4:24:21 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: MonroeDNA
Because of this thread, I bought Coram's biography of Boyd and read it over the weekend. Great book. I recommend it.
32 posted on 01/06/2003 7:01:12 PM PST by T Ruth
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To: T Ruth; hc87
I bought this book from the Marine Corps Association and finished it last night.

Awesome book and a fascinating read....

Semper Fi!
33 posted on 01/08/2003 10:55:29 AM PST by MudPuppy (To be "Someone" or to Do Something - what's your choice?)
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To: MudPuppy
Bravo and BUMP!
34 posted on 01/08/2003 5:49:47 PM PST by T Ruth
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To: MudPuppy
After reading Coram's biography of Boyd, I got a copy of
'The Mind of War' by Grant Hammond. The first half is a
biography of Boyd (much shorter than Corams); the second
half is a review of what Boyd taught in much more detail
than noted in the Coram book.
36 posted on 01/26/2003 12:18:55 PM PST by slowhandluke
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To: Bobibutu
Outstanding post - thank you and bttt.
37 posted on 01/26/2003 12:22:13 PM PST by lodwick
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