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To: Alas Babylon!
Well! I'm nearly speechless! What a pleasure it is to meet someone who not only read Alas Babylon, but apparently loved it as much as I! Thank you for responding to my post.

Are you able to shed some light on my difficulty with the retired admiral's statements? Please help!

This is another stretch, but I seem to be on a roll tonight: I used to work for the Vietnam Veteran's Leadership Program in LA (an org spearheaded by Pres. Reagan w/primary mission to find jobs for Vets -- I ultimately became an honorary member of the board [she bragged shamelessly]). One of the board members was a full bird Col. named Leo Thorsness, a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor. Have you ever heard of him??

I simply can't get over this!

40 posted on 01/01/2003 9:08:08 PM PST by viaveritasvita
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To: viaveritasvita
Well, I guess the admiral was refering to what we later called "Mutually assured destruction", or MAD.

The part about Alas Babylon I loved the best was the old black preacher who would rant to his congegration about the great Babylon's destruction, meaning this mordern world, or even this country. I still get chills when I read Revelation chapter 18, especially in reference to this country. "10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come." Everything seems to fit, to me. Also, I was stationed at Cheyenne Mountain (NORAD underground command center), Colorado when I first read the book, and the stuff we did there certainly made the whole story realistic. I love the end of the world genre: the Stand, The Earth Abides, The Omega Man, and Alas Babylon.

41 posted on 01/01/2003 9:24:18 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: viaveritasvita
I found this for you:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. As pilot of an F-105 aircraft, Lt. Col. Thorsness was on a surface-to-air missile suppression mission over North Vietnam. Lt. Col. Thorsness and his wingman attacked and silenced a surface-to-air missile site with air-to-ground missiles, and then destroyed a second surface-to-air missile site with bombs. In the attack on the second missile site, Lt. Col. Thorsness' wingman was shot down by intensive antiaircraft fire, and the 2 crewmembers abandoned their aircraft. Lt. Col. Thorsness circled the descending parachutes to keep the crewmembers in sight and relay their position to the Search and Rescue Center. During this maneuver, a MIG-17 was sighted in the area. Lt. Col. Thorsness immediately initiated an attack and destroyed the MIG. Because his aircraft was low on fuel, he was forced to depart the area in search of a tanker. Upon being advised that 2 helicopters were orbiting over the downed crew's position and that there were hostile MlGs in the area posing a serious threat to the helicopters, Lt. Col. Thorsness, despite his low fuel condition, decided to return alone through a hostile environment of surface-to-air missile and antiaircraft defenses to the downed crew's position. As he approached the area, he spotted 4 MIG-17 aircraft and immediately initiated an attack on the MlGs, damaging 1 and driving the others away from the rescue scene. When it became apparent that an aircraft in the area was critically low on fuel and the crew would have to abandon the aircraft unless they could reach a tanker, Lt. Col. Thorsness, although critically short on fuel himself, helped to avert further possible loss of life and a friendly aircraft by recovering at a forward operating base, thus allowing the aircraft in emergency fuel condition to refuel safely. Lt. Col. Thorsness' extraordinary heroism, self_sacrifice, and personal bravery involving conspicuous risk of life were in the highest traditions of the military service, and have reflected great credit upon himself and the U.S. Air Force.

42 posted on 01/01/2003 9:27:59 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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