Posted on 01/02/2003 3:43:33 PM PST by EBUCK
State GPS Tracking Your Mileage and Your Movements
Marc Morano, CNSNews.com Thursday, Jan. 2, 2003
CNSNews.com – If a proposal by an Oregon State task force becomes law, the government would be able to use satellite equipment to keep track of each driver's mileage and tax that driver accordingly in order to pay for road repairs. Even the state administrator who proposed the plan thinks citizens "should be concerned" about the possibility of civil liberties violations. And Chris Edwards, director of fiscal policy at the free market Cato Institute told CNSNews.com , "I think it's nutty and I don't think it's ever going to happen."
"I don't think Americans are ready to be subjected to that type of civil liberties intrusion," Edwards explained, "where government tracks them around wherever they drive."
Edwards believes the Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) mileage-tracking proposal is the result of overzealous government bureaucrats.
"This is an example of economists gone wild," Edwards said. "Economists often think of these schemes that seem efficient on paper, but they don't think about the real world and the civil liberties aspect of things."
Jim Whitty, administrator of Oregon's Road User Fee Task Force, in an exclusive interview with CNSNews.com , called the GPS mileage tracking tax proposal necessary because "it costs a certain amount to drive on the road per vehicle and people ought to pay their fair share of their usage."
Democratic Gov. John Kitzhaber and the state legislature set up the Road User Fee Task Force in November 2001 to explore methods of financing transportation costs.
Noting that gas taxes are unfair because of the large differences in the fuel economy of automobiles, Whitty and the task force explored alternative taxing methods to ensure equity among drivers. Seventy-percent of Oregon's road maintenance revenues currently come from federal and state gas taxes.
Commission members rejected the idea of using automobile odometer readings to track mileage because they figured some people would accumulate out-of-state mileage. The idea of raising the existing gasoline tax was also turned down because with automobiles becoming so fuel efficient, gas tax revenues are projected to dry up.
"If everybody had high mileage cars, our road system would fall apart" from lack of revenue, Whitty said.
'Vehicle Miles Traveled Fee'
The solution seemed clear to Whitty.
"You go to technology and you look and say we can calculate mileage electronically, so it can be paid electronically ... That is where the GPS device came in," Whitty said.
Whitty envisions a system that would either send auto owners a monthly bill for their miles or set up gas stations so they could read the GPS transponders and collect the tax during fueling stops. The new tax per mile would be called a VMT fee or Vehicle Miles Traveled fee.
Whitty would also like to see other technologies besides GPS considered.
"There is an odometer sensor which can calculate mileage and then data can be transferred by radio frequencies to a fuel pump. We are going to be looking at both," Whitty explained.
Whitty believes that despite the fears of potential civil liberties violations, the new method of calculating road taxes is needed to make transportation taxes fairer.
"[The task force] wanted it to look like the gas tax used to look like back around 1960 when all cars virtually got the same miles per gallon," Whitty said. "What has happened though is that in the 70s, 80s and 90s, some cars became more fuel efficient and others didn't.
"There was no longer a correlation between miles driven and revenues raised," Whitty explained.
When asked about possible civil liberties violations, Whitty admitted that people should be cautious about the state's use of the mileage tracking technology.
"They should be concerned and they should watch this and make sure that is doesn't turn into such a thing," Whitty said.
However, "that is not the purpose of this fee," he added. "The state transportation department has no interest in knowing where people are going either currently or after the fact."
Whitty believes police may ultimately end up using the GPS data for criminal investigations.
"If there was a police necessity perhaps, but we are not looking at that. That is not our concern," he said.
Edwards remains unconvinced.
"You can say it's not the purpose, but later on it will be abused and expanded," Edwards said.
"We don't need the government to have Big Brother precise tracking systems to make sure the highways are precisely paid by precisely the right people who use them," Edwards continued. "The gas tax now is roughly efficient."
Edwards also dismissed Whitty's concerns about dwindling revenues from gas taxes.
"The private sector is doing more with less. I don't see why the government sector also cannot continue to improve its productivity," he said.
Edwards also believes the cost of the GPS proposal would be too high considering "all the bureaucracy costs of setting up and installing the system, hiring satellite time, running the computers and having all the analysts looking at data."
"Do we really need all that? Edwards asked.
Copyright CNSNews.com
The IRS would be responsible for allocating the tax due to each state. The vehicle location would never be disclosed to the politicians. They would see only elapsed miles by state. The GPS miles and odometer miles should be fairly close. Signal dropout and miles accumulated on private property would account for a small disparity. Tampering with the GPS telematics unit (including intentional blocking of the antenna) would be treated in a manner similar to tampering with the vehicle odometer.
Whether it's a sin or not depends upon which 9 year old they're using as moderator that day.
Which state is going to get the tax revenue using this approach? I was putting 910 miles on my car each way on the trip from San Diego to Pocatello. That crosses CA, NV, AZ, UT and ID in a single trip.
Here's the real root of the problem. The federal government is operating far beyond its charter.
Is that your belief or is that the company line being offered???
Social security numbers instantly spring to mind...
EBUCK
Well that ain't my way. Unconstitutional BS has to stop. Goobermint bean counting polidiots are playing incrementalism and winning with such revenue and invasion of privacy based programs as this.
My new Holiday to make sure I observe is the first Tuesday in November. And I will rent a bus to get like minded folk to the polls as VOTES are the last tool IMHO .
Rant Over ....Stay Safe !
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How about they just keep things the way they are, collect through the gas tax? If NY State even gets wind of this fascist idea, we'll be next. In fact I'm suprised the Karl Marx brigade here hasn't already thought of it themselves.
Why not? Everybody thinks its great having their cell phone tracked. <>/sarcasm<>
Someday a large enough group of people will stand up and say enough already...we don't want your shackles of saftey and security...we are content to provide for ourselves...its coming....make no mistake...and when it does it will shock the country and the world...I hope it happens before my time expires cause I will be their...If I am lucky I got another 40 seasons in me...I hope I get to finally see it...
Actually, I don't think Americans like having druggies or whores on their streetcorners, but leave it to the democrats to propose such a thing(GPS monitoring of cars) and Libertarians to scream that it is already happening(i.e drug laws, etc. etc.).
Oh well the politcal circus never ends.
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