State GPS Tracking Your Mileage and Your Movements

CNSNews.com ^ | 01/02/2003 | Marc Morano

[Myrddin]

We've had this discussion on another thread. Here is how I would build the telematics unit:
1. NVRAM array of data cells for 50 states, 5 years. Mileage is accumulated by state when the car is traveling on a public road. The GPS and internal mapping ROM would determine when you are only a public road and running up miles.
2. NVRAM array of electronic odometer value for each year.
3. Read the data from the vehicle data bus LAN including VIN at a federally approved "test station"
4. Bundle the data with (VIN, current year GPS state mileage, current year odometer), digitally sign and submit to the IRS electronically.

The IRS would be responsible for allocating the tax due to each state. The vehicle location would never be disclosed to the politicians. They would see only elapsed miles by state. The GPS miles and odometer miles should be fairly close. Signal dropout and miles accumulated on private property would account for a small disparity. Tampering with the GPS telematics unit (including intentional blocking of the antenna) would be treated in a manner similar to tampering with the vehicle odometer.

[EBUCK]

Robo-Cop incarnate hell...

Hypothetical situation..

You post to FR regularly, you are on the list no doubt about it.

Your GPS ID is called up 400,000 times a day to "check on your activities"

You stop in at a buddies house to BS and watch the game, he's on the list too!! (of course without the 4th, USA Patriot act, you don't have the right to know)

You guys get raided for subversive activities. Never to be heard from again, off to Siberia you go for re-education.

EBUCK

[hoosierskypilot]

"..didn't want to commit the FReeper sin of changing the headline.."

Whether it's a sin or not depends upon which 9 year old they're using as moderator that day.

[Myrddin]

If they are gonna tax me based on my annual mileage then just look at the gosh damn sticker with last years mileage on it and do the math versus making me also pay for a GPS-SAT WhatchmacallitPOS Socialist tewl !

Which state is going to get the tax revenue using this approach? I was putting 910 miles on my car each way on the trip from San Diego to Pocatello. That crosses CA, NV, AZ, UT and ID in a single trip.

[Eala]

since federal regulations will continue to demand more fuel economy

Here's the real root of the problem. The federal government is operating far beyond its charter.

[SAMWolf]

Hot yet, but I'll learn.

[EBUCK]

The vehicle location would never be disclosed to the politicians.

Is that your belief or is that the company line being offered???

Social security numbers instantly spring to mind...

EBUCK

[Mercat]

Bring it on. I have a totally boring life. I hope someone is wasting his time tracking it.

[RightWhale]

Not to say the data will be used in planning this way. That would be useful. If politicians are asking for it, it probably is a short-sighted idea to gain further control and revenue. They won't make any money off it, though, after the cost of setting up the system is added in. They won't gain any control, either, since they already can just go out to the highway and see if cars are using the road.

[Squantos]

I think a whole generation has been raised on the old story about the little bird who fell into a cowpie and chirpped until the cat found him and ate him. Thus even if your up to your neck in crap stay quiet.....

Well that ain't my way. Unconstitutional BS has to stop. Goobermint bean counting polidiots are playing incrementalism and winning with such revenue and invasion of privacy based programs as this.

My new Holiday to make sure I observe is the first Tuesday in November. And I will rent a bus to get like minded folk to the polls as VOTES are the last tool IMHO .

Rant Over ....Stay Safe !

[EBUCK]

And in doing so creating more and more dependance "by the states, on the fed".

I'm not sure that that was the original intent but it sure is working now aint it?

EBUCK

[dixiechick2000]

Please ping me when you figure it out.

;o)

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Which state is going to get the tax revenue using this approach?

How about they just keep things the way they are, collect through the gas tax? If NY State even gets wind of this fascist idea, we'll be next. In fact I'm suprised the Karl Marx brigade here hasn't already thought of it themselves.

[EBUCK]

You forgot [/sarcasm] I hope....

First they came for the Jews....I wasn't a Jew so I didn't mind....

EBUCK

[KneelBeforeZod]

geez, you mean that lady I work with that lives in California but registers her car in Oregon for $40/year might get caught. poor baby.

[J Jay]

State GPS Tracking Your Mileage and Your Movements

Why not? Everybody thinks its great having their cell phone tracked. <>/sarcasm<>

[EBUCK]

1.57542 GHz.

Get a xmitter that'll pump at that freq and you've effectively jammed it.

Doesn't even have to be powerfull at that freq. just enough to disrupt the clock broadcast.

EBUCK

[KneelBeforeZod]

has everyone forgotten several cars can easily have the mileage rolled back with analog meters?

[antaresequity]

I laid my innocence on the roadside many miles back...and yes I know...the tree of liberty is fed with the blood of patriots...

Someday a large enough group of people will stand up and say enough already...we don't want your shackles of saftey and security...we are content to provide for ourselves...its coming....make no mistake...and when it does it will shock the country and the world...I hope it happens before my time expires cause I will be their...If I am lucky I got another 40 seasons in me...I hope I get to finally see it...

[Dane]

We're not ready "yet", a few more years and we'll probably be conditioned properly

Actually, I don't think Americans like having druggies or whores on their streetcorners, but leave it to the democrats to propose such a thing(GPS monitoring of cars) and Libertarians to scream that it is already happening(i.e drug laws, etc. etc.).

Oh well the politcal circus never ends.