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I thought this might be of interest now that the Rats have started their primary campaigns for President. John Edwards claims to be for the "ordinary man;" but the RATS have been losing this group to the Pubbies.

I did this book review for my lobbyist daughter last Fall before the election.

1 posted on 01/02/2003 7:07:28 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd
Yep. I always felt the Pubbies were a bunch of wussies for not exploiting this demographic. There is deep resentment among this class against the bureaucratic elite who works less, makes more and often has only a little more education (and far less street smarts).
3 posted on 01/02/2003 7:15:50 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: shrinkermd
John Edwards claims to be for the "ordinary man;" but the RATS have been losing this group to the Pubbies.

There's the "ordinary man" and there's the "ordinary working man." These are two different groups. To the dems, the ordinary man is one more concerned with his color or sexual orientation or handicap or entitlements than with issues related to working. To the Republicans, the ordinary man is one more concerned with the rigors of working and the taxes he pays to support the freeloading classes.

4 posted on 01/02/2003 7:17:28 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: shrinkermd
"I did this book review for my lobbyist daughter last Fall before the election."

Did she give you an "A"? You deserve it...

5 posted on 01/02/2003 7:17:35 PM PST by okie01
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To: shrinkermd
Maybe the Republicans should spend more
time taking care of the ones who is bringing
them to power.
How about no more NAFTAS and GATTS,
big payroll tax cut, stop illegal immigration
school vouchers etc...
6 posted on 01/02/2003 7:19:10 PM PST by Princeliberty
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To: shrinkermd
Maybe the Republicans should spend more
time taking care of the ones who is bringing
them to power.
How about no more NAFTAS and GATTS,
big payroll tax cut, stop illegal immigration
school vouchers etc...
7 posted on 01/02/2003 7:20:26 PM PST by Princeliberty
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To: shrinkermd
bump
9 posted on 01/02/2003 7:28:48 PM PST by foreverfree
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To: shrinkermd
Your review is a good read, thanks.
It is very telling what the authors gloss over or ignore in that it really shows their tunnel vision. It makes one wonder if their disregard for moral/family issues as a factor is because they cannot fathom it's importance.
I can unequivocally say that everyone I know who has children or is contemplating them, is concerned to some degree about moral/family values plus related issues such as the poor performance of the current education system. This includes people who consider themselves liberal and/or democrats, and irrespective of race.

I think people are realizing that what were once sneeringly called "old-fashioned" values aren't such a bad idea after all. And, if this country wants to see some real growth and progress government has got to get a grip on spending and cut waste and taxes. It's pretty simple- if after I pay my rent and buy food and pay the electric bill, if nothing is left I cannot buy stuff and contribute to the growth of this country!


10 posted on 01/02/2003 7:38:37 PM PST by visualops
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To: shrinkermd
Good review.

The authors economic analyses and arguments are well documented and thought out. They more or less ignore the social issues. Looking at their data would suggest that attitudes and beliefs in respect to abortion, gay rights, affirmative action and gun control might explain a good deal of the voting pattern changes they ascribe to economics.

I think you're right here. I think this group is more put off by the Demonrats' pandering to minorities, homosexuals, etc. than affected by economic issues. They may be hurting some, but I doubt if they see the Dems as any better for them than the GOP economically. A strong dose of class warfare might change that if the Dems are seen as credible.

11 posted on 01/02/2003 7:46:31 PM PST by expatpat
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To: shrinkermd
This group has been critical for the Democrats in close elections. The white working class, especially the ones over 60, despite their conservative social views, still largely vote Democrat by habit, and it was this group who the Democrats alienate the most when they push their "new Democrat" message the most. What is ironic is the kind of politics the same authors support in the ironically titled "The emergeing Democratic majority" that came out this year are the style of politics that will only accelerate the white working class migration to the GOP.

While many freepers will disagree, it is economics that still gives the Democrats between 40-45% of the vote, but if the Democrats become fully free trade on economics, globalistic if you will, there will be no more reason for the white working class to vote for the Democrats. The multi-cultural, feminist, gay rights, enviromentalist issues that now largely define todays Democrats are hostile to the intrests of the white working class.
13 posted on 01/02/2003 7:56:56 PM PST by JNB
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>Those with HS diploma fell 10%. In addition, those without an HS diploma dropped 24%

This income loss can only result in huge social strains. It is due to illegal immigrants taking the 'jobs that Americans won't do'.... to quote a favorite phrase of the Texicans on FR.

14 posted on 01/02/2003 8:16:37 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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WHY THE WHITE WORKING CLASS STILL MATTERS

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The White working class should be the political future of this nation, but is soundly rejected by both political parties. While the Democratic party once was the party of labor, the Democrats have turned their back on labor and taken areas such as abortion and homosexuality as their main issues. The Republicans are obsessed with moving jobs and industriesd out of the country and moving Mexicans in, completely abandoning labor. If Republicans ever got their heads straight and put up a decent president they could rescue the economy and have labor support for the next 25 years. Instead they are bringing in Mexicans.

22 posted on 01/02/2003 8:56:08 PM PST by RLK
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We need more gutsy Republicans like railroad baron Jay Gould "I can hire 1/2 of the working class to kill the other half".
25 posted on 01/02/2003 9:22:32 PM PST by weikel
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WHY THE WHITE WORKING CLASS STILL MATTERS

Because we generally have jobs at companies that issue W-2s and our income stream can't
escape the wiles of the IRS...
42 posted on 01/03/2003 3:22:24 PM PST by VOA
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To: shrinkermd
Bump
45 posted on 01/03/2003 3:34:04 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: shrinkermd
Thanks for bringing this sort of information here - it's appreciated and welcomed. JL
48 posted on 01/03/2003 3:50:41 PM PST by lodwick
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