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Price of the 'Liberal Media' Myth
The Consortium News ^ | 1/1/2003 | Robert Parry

Posted on 01/03/2003 1:36:30 PM PST by SteveH

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To: SteveH
You can measure the strength of his argument by seeing who he quotes: Bob Somersby and Joe Conason.

Nuff said.
21 posted on 01/03/2003 2:40:37 PM PST by jackbill
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To: SteveH
Coloring the News: How Crusading for Diversity Has Corrupted American Journalism
22 posted on 01/03/2003 2:40:51 PM PST by second_half_recovery
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To: SteveH
You know, five years ago this "what liberal bias?" propaganda barrage might well have worked.
23 posted on 01/03/2003 2:46:28 PM PST by Interesting Times
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To: vannrox
Yet another liberal...who refuses...just refuses to admit what is plainly in front of his two eyes.

I say this is perfect. I want the establishment media chasing their tails for the next millenium. While they complain about which course the boat is on, the water is rising past their knees. Their myopic view of the political landscape will be their undoing after all.

24 posted on 01/03/2003 2:48:41 PM PST by VRW Conspirator
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To: Cicero
Yeah, this one was impossible to slog through... and the slant was obvious from the very start.

The liberal media bias goes back to the 1950's... Alan Drury's "Advice and Consent" (the liberal spin-meister in that novel was a guy named "Frankly Unctuous" and he was a dead-ringer for the liberal nightly news guy: maybe David Brinkley before he turned somewhat conservative at the very end of his career) was a good example back then. The way the media ganged up on Barry Goldwater and the other "influentials" followed: remember the National Association of Psychologists (or whatever it was called) who declared Barry "unfit" to be President? And after Vietnam and Watergate, the floodgates opened.

Conservatives started getting their act together in the late 70's and early 80's with the early think-tanks (Heritage, Cato) that started stepping up and challenging the conventional "wisdom" -- and Reagan crushed the liberal media despite their best efforts.

Guys like Parry can harrangue all they want, they can't dodge the facts and reality... But there are too many alternatives now and the liberal media will never have the kind of influence it enjoyed in the past, especially allowing the crimes of the Clinton era to pass with hardly a wimper (despite the alleged "tough coverage" Bubba received). A Republican in that situation would have been hanged.

25 posted on 01/03/2003 2:48:50 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: SteveH

26 posted on 01/03/2003 2:50:22 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: docmcb
docmcb wrote:

"If this writer considers the abuses leading to Clinton's impeachment "trivial," that's all I need to know to discount everything else he says."

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That's about as far as I needed to read too.......I guess rape, murder, kick-backs, espionage, bribes, threats, lip-biting, money-for-votes, and votes-for-money are all trivial....

FRegards,

27 posted on 01/03/2003 2:56:42 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: SteveH
In discussing media bias it is important to understand just which party the journalists in Big Media all vote for. They may be blind to their biases but it does not make them any less real.

Far left rants can be heard (many times in violation of 501c3 tax status) on left of the dial commercial free radio.

28 posted on 01/03/2003 2:59:55 PM PST by weegee
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To: Blue Screen of Death
I believe that myth too until I saw the unrelenting pressure of numerous newspapers like the New York Times write editorial after editorial calling for the resignation of traitor Patty Murray from the senate. /sarcasm
29 posted on 01/03/2003 3:00:11 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: SteveH
Contrary to a few others, above, I think this "Right Wing Media" talking point which has been promenant since the election is fascinating and hilarious.

Did it take Parry many words for this guy to convince himself that he's squarely in the middle of objectivity? It looks like this guy has listed every Democrat talking point for the last 10 years. Take a look at "The Consortium News", see if you can find any balance there!

By gift of the first ammendment, the press is SUPPOSED to out the truth about leaders who are screwing up. If the press is biased against a guy, they'll hop on any little thing. If the press is biased FOR a guy, they may delay and the guy will be tempted to further abuses. But in the end they lose credibilty with their readers if they don't eventually come to the truth. It happened, eventually, to Johnson, Nixon, Carter and Clinton.

The media, at last, HAS been FORCED to move grudgingly away from the left. The market has demanded it. Limbaugh, Fox News and FreeRepublic owe their success to 8 years of Democrats defending reprobates in the Whitehouse. Ask Rush, Ailes, and Robinson if it's not so!

What's most amazing is that Parry, Daschle, Gore, and the Clintons just can't see it. They think something has gone wrong with the press. They look at themselves in the mirror (the press), and they don't like what they see, but they still can't quite recognize who's standing there.
30 posted on 01/03/2003 3:02:29 PM PST by c-five
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To: SteveH

Let's assume for a minute that large numbers of liberals actually believe this tripe. I think we can also assume that by uttering it, they are not convincing anyone of anything. They are simply preaching to their own choir.

What actions might they take if they believe this? Well, the model for what they are talking about is Salon. Here we have a number of wealthy liberals who think The Web needs a strong liberal voice. So, following (actually, anticipating) the advice in this article, they create out of thin air a strong left-leaning news-and-commentary web site.

What are the results? Well, so far they have poured tens of millions of dollars down a rathole. These are funds that might have been donated to Democratic candidates, or used to run television ads that depict President Bush setting fire to black churches. The site has failed to attract anything like the following that would be expected after such expenditures, and it's now down to subsisting month-to-month on $200,000 "loans" from liberal fat cats who keep it as a pet.

The same could be said of Salon's liberal cousin, Slate... another money sink that probably does not have the influence of the one-man endeavor andrewsullivan.com.

If there's a "myth" here, it's the one in the liberal mind that says that conservatives got together and planned some big media empire. That theory is more an artifact of how their minds work -- centralized economic planning and control -- than how it actually happened. It does not seem to occur to them that the disparate fates of Salon and Fox News are due not to the fatness of their backer's wallets, but to the market's reception of the products.

They deny a ubiquitous liberal slant in the country's media, but then cannot explain why new liberal entrants consistently fail to attract an audience. The reason Salon has a hard time is that one can read the same liberal tirades in the New York Times and the Washington Post, not to mention CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, and CBS. The reason no liberal enjoys the commercial success of Rush Limbaugh is that the liberal audience has access to commercial-free, taxpayer-supported Democratic Party Radio. By contrast, Fox came out of the gate like a rocket, because it was the only non-liberal offering on television.

I don't expect liberals to ever believe that. They will continue to think that what they need to do is replicate the Salon experience over and over again, perhaps on radio, perhaps on television, perhaps to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

I hope they do. Better that than they donate it to the Democratic candidate in 2004.


31 posted on 01/03/2003 3:40:30 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
The way the media ganged up on Barry Goldwater and the other "influentials" followed: remember the National Association of Psychologists (or whatever it was called) who declared Barry "unfit" to be President? And after Vietnam and Watergate, the floodgates opened.

Yes I do remember the treatment of Goldwater. The "Daisy" commercial. Lyndon Johnson and Bill Moyers would do ANYTHING to win an election. It is the realization that the press will enable the worst kind of people, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Gore to ascend to the presidency, that I only believe the vital statistics page in a newspaper.

With the recent releases of LBJ's tapes admitting that he had trouble being a "Commander-in-Chief", the Nat. Assn. of Shrinks should have examined Johnson.

32 posted on 01/03/2003 4:04:49 PM PST by elbucko
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To: Nick Danger
What actions might they take if they believe this?

The other thing the might try to find a way to knock some loopholes in the first amendment. I don't know how they would be successful at that. But I did hear John Kerry say something in September that gave me a vague uneasy feeling that he had thought about it after some questioner mentioned how "unfairly" Rush Limbaugh had been calling Daschle an obstructionist after all his efforts over the summer.

33 posted on 01/03/2003 4:07:33 PM PST by c-five
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To: second_half_recovery
Exactly. McGowan showed in story after story after story, how socialist reporters and editors either willfully misreported stories, harassed reporters trying to tell the truth out of doing their job, or simply spiked their stories.
34 posted on 01/03/2003 4:10:58 PM PST by mrustow
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35 posted on 01/03/2003 4:24:43 PM PST by backhoe
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To: SteveH
Yawn.... Parry's a lefty baffoon.
36 posted on 01/03/2003 4:28:36 PM PST by Bullish
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To: backhoe
I had a jaw dropper the other day. I was with some relatives, and when I said that Time Magazine was liberal, they looked shocked and told me it was clearly conservative. It froze my brain. I'd ask if anyone had some ideas on how to show it was liberal, but I'm afraid this is not a case for reason.

DK
37 posted on 01/03/2003 4:34:55 PM PST by Dark Knight
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To: IncPen
I started reading the article but....this guy's either clueless or a flat-out liar.

Either way, he's wrong.

There is no "Liberal Media Myth"...it's a fact and anyone who denies it is peeing on their own leg and saying they didn't.

38 posted on 01/03/2003 4:35:47 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Dark Knight
The worst part is that they stubbornly refuse to admit having any bias, any position, or any agenda. If they'd tell you where they stand, you could apply correction. Everyone has some kind of position, whether it's right, left, of center.
39 posted on 01/03/2003 4:44:59 PM PST by backhoe
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To: SteveH
These limitations were true a century ago when William Randolph Hearst famously studied every day’s paper from his publishing empire looking for signs of leftist attitudes among his staff. And it is still true in the days of Rupert Murdoch, Jack Welch and the Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

Where have I heard this before? Oh, yeah, when racist blacks claim that "nothing has changed" for blacks in American in the past fifty years. "In the days of Rupert Murdoch, Jack Welch and the Rev. Sun Myung Moon"? Jesus, Mary, and Joseph -- this guy has to embarrass a lot of socialists! (I'm a Jew, but he's got me swearing like an Irishman.)

40 posted on 01/03/2003 4:57:00 PM PST by mrustow
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