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Illegal Immigration: A novel approach to the greatest security threat we have
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/798815/posts ^ | 1/4/03 | judicial meanz

Posted on 01/04/2003 12:43:36 AM PST by judicial meanz

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To: dark_lord
Excellent ideas and would probably be a lot more effective in the long-run. A web site could even be set up, if there isn't one already that specifically targets known employers hiring illegals. Hit them where it hurts, economically.
61 posted on 01/04/2003 8:13:22 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: norton
Bump for Tancredo.......
62 posted on 01/04/2003 8:16:17 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: judicial meanz
State Defense Forces are also exempt from Posse Comitatus. They could do full law enforcement duties. Thats good to know.

Jeez, don't give the liberal Janet Reno's out there more ideas! ;^)

64 posted on 01/04/2003 8:28:59 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: 4Freedom
Not to mention those that are felons. DOJ estimates average loss due to felony crimes is $430,000.00 per miscreant, per year.
65 posted on 01/04/2003 9:08:41 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: cynaman
The cops would love to get rid of illegals but the INS has thrown up serious redtape to make sure this doesn't happen.

I read of an illegal (N. Africa) that had been arrested several times. Cops couldn't do anything cause the INS didn't want to do anything (cause he hadn't been convicted yet). Finally the guy applied for asylum so he could stay here "legally" till his case was decided.

He was arrested once more on more serious charges. Released (once again) on bail he fled to Canada. As far as I know the Canadians are still holding him for extradition back to the U.S.
66 posted on 01/04/2003 9:51:46 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: cynaman
What we have going on with Mexico is not immigration, it is an invasion. The govt. of Mexico published a report stating that over 35 million Mexicans have entered the USA, some reports I have read say that as many as 13 million or in Southern Calif. alone

Our Government can not own up to these numbers. Elected Republicans cannot admit the magnitude for fear of absolutely enraging the lower end of their base. Elected Democrats cannot, for fear of forever alienating the African-Americans, who IMHO, are paying the biggest price for the invasion, along with hourly employed white men.

I do not have a clue as to when and even if the boiling point on this situation will be reached. I do know there is occasional open warfare between Blacks and Mexicans on the streets of LA. And I also know that even here in Maine, illegal Mexicans are filling in jobs in the tourist industry in large numbers, while legally present Somali "refugees" who are also here in large numbers do no work at all, while collecting rather substantial benefits in cash and kind..

All the while, the illiterates who leave our once-excellent high schools every year are fit for nothing ... except to hang out and try their best to act as if they were in an MTV video.

Border protection and adherence to existing immigration law is crucial. Low-end jobs should go to low-end Americans. They need the money, the training, and the chance to improve themselves before the country is given away.

67 posted on 01/04/2003 11:22:15 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: 185JHP
I haven't seen that number before. If you find a link to it, I'd appreciate it.

There was a recent thread here, I should have kept a link to, that speculated that as much as 50% of our nation's prison populations could be Latino. When Latinos enter the prison populations in many states, Arizona for instance, they're classified as 'whites'. How many of them are illegals could be under-reported, as well.

Funny how when they're out to qualify for special government hand-outs, school placement, government jobs or to beat you out of a government contract, they're Hispanic/Latinos. But, when they're thrown into prison, in some states they're no longer Hispanic/Latinos, they're 'white'.

68 posted on 01/05/2003 5:44:31 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
The latest I've heard (from another FR thread) is that Fox has given up on getting Bush to pass an amnesty, and is now working on a "worker ID" so that Mexicans can cross the border to work. This has the implication that they will come across in the AM to work, returning in the PM. What part of this sounds ridiculous? Yeah, right. The part where they go BACK to Mexico.
69 posted on 01/05/2003 10:12:42 AM PST by TruthNtegrity
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To: madfly
Nothing racist intended. We just need to regain control of our country. I'm tired of supporting illegal immigrants when the "true" US citizens need to be taken care of. Sorry to have offende you.
70 posted on 01/05/2003 11:58:21 AM PST by rooster1
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To: judicial meanz
The best way to stop illegal immigration is to "fine" the illegal immigrant's country of origin. The first time an illegal is caught, deport them and take away $10,000.00 in aid given to that country. For every successive catch of this illegal the tab doubles, $20,000 for second offense etc... The loss in revenue for Mexico would be in the hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars. Trust me at this given point these countries would lean heavily on these felons and probably patrol their own borders.
71 posted on 01/05/2003 1:13:48 PM PST by doc
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To: 4Freedom
I cut that $430,000.00 figure out of an article I read years ago. I no longer know where it is. The same article said the average felon commits an average of 180 crimes a year. A lot of softheaded people don't understand that criminals don't have any interest in being straight - they have no interest in being rehabilitated - they were never "habilitated" in the first place. They just chose to be, and want to be, criminals. Kinda like sodomites.
72 posted on 01/05/2003 1:31:45 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: Kenny Bunk
Our Government can not own up to these numbers [35mm+ illegal aliens in America]. Elected Republicans cannot admit the magnitude for fear of absolutely enraging the lower end of their base. Elected Democrats cannot, for fear of forever alienating the African-Americans, who IMHO, are paying the biggest price for the invasion, along with hourly employed white men.

Bump

73 posted on 01/05/2003 2:59:42 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
If someone would fund it, I would establish such a site, and open it up to a group who want's to maintain its content. To do it right would not be cheap, but not that expensive. The key thing is to do our own hosting, so anyone who complains (and once it became successful there would be people who would use the federal bureacracy to lean on any hosting ISP) would have limited leverage.

Probably use something like a modified "Twiki" type site so that a large number of authorized people could post.

74 posted on 01/05/2003 6:41:24 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: rooster1
""Kill em' all, let God sort them out"."

G_d doesn't want them either.

76 posted on 01/05/2003 8:25:50 PM PST by S.O.S121.500
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77 posted on 01/05/2003 8:31:28 PM PST by snowstorm12
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To: Platero
Thanks Platero. Your name has been added.
79 posted on 01/06/2003 6:39:00 AM PST by madfly
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To: dark_lord
Probably use something like a modified "Twiki" type site so that a large number of authorized people could post.

That sounds like a good idea, expose businesses hiring illegal aliens and have a message board people could post to. There may be some web sites already up doing this sort of thing, I'm going check around to see first.

80 posted on 01/06/2003 10:26:19 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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