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To: wita
I see in 29 it is a Prius. I'm even more surprised at your attitude, unless of course you happen to be of the democrat persuasion.

Sigh. I should have more patience, 'tis true. However, if one were to look at the early posts on this thread, and on other threads here at FR discussing fuel cells and other advanced, so-called "alternative," energy devices, one will see a great deal of mocking derision. As I point out above, the gas guzzler fans are working overtime to make fun of highly efficient vehicles and to impugn the intelligence of those who design, build, and drive them. (I do two of the three...)

It irritates the heck out of me, and I do get bristly on these threads. (Which is why I'm in R&D, and not PR...) I wonder if these people would have, if they had been living 100 or so years ago, mocked and derided the horseless carraige and the Wright flyer?

I do not care for my putative allies in the Green movement. Advanced energy is a nifty technical challenge. The bonus is, of course, that I am working to liberate America from energy dependency. Our energy dependency is, to mix metaphors, the Mother of all Entangling Alliances.

40 posted on 01/04/2003 7:10:23 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: Chemist_Geek
"impugn the intelligence of those who design, build, and drive them. (I do two of the three...)"

I'm sure that you are a very bright guy, but your involment in the industry has narrowed your viewpoint to just MPG. You need to increase your view to the total energy use and pollution created by these cars over their entire life cycle. Maybe you can give us some real hard numbers?

Please compare to similar cars without the hybrid additions, not SUVs. Those are two seperate choices.
50 posted on 01/04/2003 12:25:36 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Chemist_Geek
I wonder if these people would have, if they had been living 100 or so years ago, mocked and derided the horseless carraige and the Wright flyer?

Odd that you mention two technologies that worked BETTER than those they replaced.

63 posted on 01/04/2003 7:58:09 PM PST by Petronski
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