Posted on 01/04/2003 8:27:20 AM PST by lewislynn
'So long, Seattle': More people are moving away
By Bradley Meacham and Dave Woodfill Seattle Times business reporters
Seattle's economic boom might be in the rearview mirror for many people — literally. After two decades of nearly continuous growth, this year the Seattle area might see more people move out than move in, according to moving companies, relocation services and demographers.
Larry Nelsen, president of Hansen Brothers Moving and Storage, said the number of customers his company moved out of Seattle rose by about a third during the past year. "A lot of it was people leaving to get a job," he said.
The dot-com crash and Boeing layoffs have left this region with one of the nation's highest jobless rates. Nearly 50,000 Washington residents were receiving unemployment benefits last month, and many are starting to see those benefits run out.
Experts are quick to point out that this is no early-1970s exodus, when an aerospace-dependent regional economy was in crisis after deep Boeing cutbacks. Times are tough in many other parts of the country, they say, and Seattle's economy is bolstered by several growing behemoths, from Washington Mutual bank to Microsoft.
Still, demographers say the region might experience negative migration — more people moving out than moving in — in 2003 and possibly 2004 as well.
"We've really been slammed," said Dick Conway, co-author of the Puget Sound Economic Forecaster. Conway projects that the Puget Sound area's birth rate will outpace the number of people moving out, maintaining a narrow overall population growth. But there's also a chance so many people will move out that the population will decline for the first time since the 1970s.
Conway said one reason so many people are leaving is that the dot-com industry employed so many who had only lived in Seattle a year or two.
"Since a lot of people working in the dot-coms were relatively young, they were attracted here from out of state, and I'm sure as they lost their jobs, they packed up their bags and took off," he said.
But long-time residents are leaving, too. Patricia Maguire, a former quality-assurance worker at Boeing, spent three months sending out résumés after she was laid off, then decided to sell the home in West Seattle where she had lived for 31 years and move to Lake Chelan.
"It was the house my children were born and raised in," she said. "It was a bit hard for them. But they were so happy I was making changes."
If the trend continues, everyone from apartment landlords to shopkeepers will feel the impact.
The number of departures from the central Puget Sound area was up 30 percent during 2002, while there were 30 percent fewer incoming moves, said Shari Blackwood, who heads up corporate-relocation services for Coldwell Banker Bain Associates. The company handles about 1,800 moves a year in the area.
Others say there's no noticeable increase in outflow, it's just the number of newcomers that has shrunk.
"It used to be about six would arrive for every four that left," said Don Foster, a sales manager at Corporate Moving Systems. "That gap has narrowed."
The Greater Seattle Chamber of Commerce saw about half the number of requests for its relocation-information packets in 2002, said spokeswoman Karin Zaugg. The chamber fields requests for information ranging from $3 maps of the area to 30-minute videos that sell for $25.
It doesn't track how many of those requests result in moves, she said. There's still interest from particular sectors, such as health care, she said.
The Convention and Visitors Bureau said the number of overnight visits to King County, which is often a precursor to moving here, is down. The total dropped by 160,000 to 8.64 million in 2001, partly because of the fear of traveling after the Sept. 11 attacks. Data for 2002 isn't available yet.
Rental units, traditionally the first place newcomers live, are another piece of evidence.
Apartment Insider, a Seattle corporate-relocation agency that handles half of local moves for Microsoft, is handling about 10 moves each month, said Mardee Austin, managing partner. That's down from 50-60 per month in 2000 and about 20-30 in 2001.
"Summer 2000 and early 2001 were incredible," she said. "It started to drop off significantly around 9/11 and just never recovered."
The state's in-migration may have hit a five-year low in 2001, with only 21,000 new residents, down from 44,200 in 1999.
"(After) all of the big layoffs that we've had, you would really expect more movement out," said Theresa Lowe, a state demographer. "It's not painting a good picture for King (County) right now.
"This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone."
Bradley Meacham: 206-515-5066 or bmeacham@seattletimes.com.
One thing this article got right is the birth rate. I swear, I have never seen so many pregnant women in one city in my life.
It must be something in the water.
with nothing to do...
If they were in Minnesota, they would have to get their butts out of bed to get fires going and cars started to stay alive, shovel snow, etc.
But in Seattle, what's another 24 hours?
But in Seattle, what's another 24 hours?
Obviously heaven compared to that...we can afford furnaces, even forced air heat with thermostats on the west coast and "starting the car" is never thought to be chore.
But now since the whole country is taken up, we have to go with the Deep South.
SOCIALISM ALWAYS FAILS.
I'm in Seattle, and there are already huge budget deficits. Elected Dims far outnumber Republicans. We have had a Socialist governor for years now who is driving out Boeing and other businesses. Our logging and fishing were destroyed years ago by the enviros, and now those workers are on welfare.
The roads are third-world because all the money has gone to the governor's socialist programs for immigrants and the 9,000 employees he has added to the state payroll. We have Patty bin Murray, Baghdad Jim, our own terrorist cell, and a cell of the Socialist Democrat party.
Really, the only industry it seems the politicians want to promote is tourism, but since the streets are littered with homeless and uncontrolled skateboarders, Seattle isn't that rosy for tourists, either.
Sure, in this mild climate. Looked at the thermometer outside this morning -- 49F. Of course, it's gray and raining too. (And 49F IS a bit unusually warm...)
But out here east of Redmond, we haven't seen much of an effect on housing prices. They continue to go up.
Saw that just yesterday on FR, about your new governor. AZ: Napolitano wants CPS to err on side of child safety . I am so sorry.
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