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Anybody Else Have This Happen - Half Price Books (First Vanity Ever)
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Posted on 01/05/2003 4:51:32 PM PST by Boonie Rat

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To: BenR2
He finally relented, but he clearly hated my guts (because there were other customers listening).

Radio Shack always relents if you push them. They just want your name and address so they can mail you sales circulars, but they'll never let that desire stand in the way if it will break a sale. Just stand your ground.

41 posted on 01/05/2003 6:16:08 PM PST by Timesink
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To: GovernmentShrinker
That said, I do understand why retailers need to get and record ID for RETURNS.

I don't have any problem with having to show ID (well, not nearly as much of one, anyway), but to have it put into their computer over a cash sale? Forget it.

42 posted on 01/05/2003 6:17:36 PM PST by Timesink
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Loss prevention. This prevents their employees from using left or found reciepts to get money from the register by plucking an item off of the shelf and filling out a return for it.

To be blunt, their internal problems with their employees is not a good enough reason to deserve MY personal information, which can then be taken by the same untrustworthy employees and used for identity fraud.

43 posted on 01/05/2003 6:23:00 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
How else are they supposed to track the people who do returns over and over again, often at different stores in the same chain?
44 posted on 01/05/2003 6:23:27 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Boonie Rat
A reason not to go to Half-Price books any longer. You handled it very well. About two years ago I was making a purchase at Toys-r-us and they asked me for my phone number. Just to make a purchase! I refused. It happens everytime I go to the store. I have already stopped shopping at QFC because they began to require shopper "value" cards, trouble is- all the grocery stores now but two in my area REQUIRE them. And I heard that Fred Meyer, one which doesn't is going to begin to using them this year. I haven't been back after December so I haven't found out yet.

Recollecting Bible prophecy of the mark to buy and sell - this makes me very "uncomfortable." Especially with the new little chip that will be placed IN EVERY PRODUCT so people at the store know what you are wearing, taking home with you, even where you live. Heard this dicussed on radio the other day - the technology is already developed. Proponents say it will let them "promptly refill the shelves. Uh huh.

45 posted on 01/05/2003 6:26:46 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Free State Four
Phone number, please?

WE6-1212

blank stare...

46 posted on 01/05/2003 6:32:15 PM PST by patton
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To: AppyPappy
Use a fake name and address for the buyer's card.

Casa Roll
123 Tamale Way
Hot Dish, Arizona?

47 posted on 01/05/2003 6:32:34 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: Boonie Rat
Wow, enjoyed your thought process throughout.
48 posted on 01/05/2003 6:32:43 PM PST by adakotab
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To: Boonie Rat
Sorry but I would have sent you on your way. I worked in retail and I can guarantee you that employees in particular and customers also steal. Asking for ID is a way to slow it down.

When I worked at Target, that was way a way they caught many many shoplifters. At the time, there were 4 stores, and if a name showed up at all 4 stores making returns, you ould bet they were stealing. No one goes all over a city making returns to 4 different stores unless they were hiding something.

These names were then put on a "watch list" and the next time they returned something, security was alerted. Many times, they would shoplift after getting a return and finally get caught.

Your actions would mark you as a thief or a loon and I'm sure they do NOT want your business.

I am NOT accusing ou of anything, just teling you what goes on in the real world.
49 posted on 01/05/2003 6:35:32 PM PST by packrat35
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To: patton
WE6-1212

I'm sorry. Is that a 202 area code? Or do I not get the joke? (Anyway, I missed your movie on cable yesterday afternoon because I took my kids to see the movie Drumline. But I've seen your movie ~the George C Scott version - the ONLY one~ about 20 times. )

50 posted on 01/05/2003 6:40:12 PM PST by Free State Four
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To: TightSqueeze
Radio Shack does NOT require this anymore. I can agree that asking for a phone number for every purchase can be really annoying.

I usually just gave out a fake phone number. Much simplier than arguing or acting crazy.

I took my phone numbers off my checks and although I rarely write them anymore (debit cards), whenever I am asked, I just give out a fake phone number.
51 posted on 01/05/2003 6:40:50 PM PST by packrat35
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To: GovernmentShrinker
How else are they supposed to track the people who do returns over and over again, often at different stores in the same chain?

They're not. Considering the books they sell and the prices they sell them at, you'd have to be insane to try any return scams there.

Actually, though, there is a way: Institute inventory control. Have the name and ISBN of the books sold printed on all receipts. That way they could only be used to return the same book purchased. If they're too damn cheap to put THAT in their software, then they deserve whatever fraud-based losses they get. Again, their indolence does not give them the right to take my personal information and store it somewhere where employees they admit to not trusting can use it for identity fraud.

52 posted on 01/05/2003 6:41:11 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Boonie Rat
Sport Clips required my name and phone number, they told me that the computer needed it. I asked if they were willing to give my son and I a number 3 quick buzz for cash without knowing my name and phone number... "no, the computer needs it". We walked out and wrote a note to their Prez, here's his reply.
_________________________
"BigDaddy_TX, thank you for bringing this to my attention. Sounds like we blew it
big-time with you and your son - my sincere apologies for the unacceptable
Client Service. I have referred your EMail to our VP-Operations, Kerin
Haney, and Kerin will take actions to ensure that our check-in process is
corrected to avoid situations like you encountered.

If you would be so kind as to give us a second chance, I would like to offer
you and your son complimentary haircuts at any of our Austin area Sport
Clips. If you will let me know your address, we can get the gift
certificates out to you tomorrow.

In any event, thank you for taking the time to let us know about your visit.
I appreciate your comments.

Gordon Logan, President"
___________________________
Since he was so cool about it I decided to let them send me
the two free haircut coupons for our next visit, yes I did
tell his VP my name and address but have not received any
junk mail from them. Next time we went in I
told them I didn't want to give them the info, they still
required it so I told them my name was Gordon Logan. They
all perked up, asked for phone number and I denied. They
tried to get my 4yr old to rat on me but he was ready for
them. Lesson learned by my son was "I thought they were
in the hair cut business, not the name and phone number
business."
53 posted on 01/05/2003 6:43:11 PM PST by BigDaddyTX
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To: Free State Four
That is odd. I buy used movies all the time at Blockbuster (I rarely rent anymore), and I never am asked for the card just to purchase. You should have told them you didn't have it with you.
54 posted on 01/05/2003 6:43:31 PM PST by packrat35
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Don't get me going on RadioShack.

About a year ago I get a Sprint Cellphone bill... but I didn't have Sprint.

After calling Sprint customer service to find out what the heck was going on, it turned out that somebody had used my info to open a cell acct. I asked the Sprint person if they could tell where and when the acct was opened. You guessed it: RadioShack. In Atlanta of all places.

I took the phone numbers off the bill, did reverse lookups on the net and supplied the info to the Secret Service, who probably just humored me.
55 posted on 01/05/2003 6:45:43 PM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: packrat35
Careful with that debit card. If it is lost or stolen and your account is cleaned out, the bank is not required to replace the money. There is no limited liability like there is with a credit card.
56 posted on 01/05/2003 6:47:28 PM PST by SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
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To: Libertina
Especially with the new little chip that will be placed IN EVERY PRODUCT so people at the store know what you are wearing, taking home with you, even where you live. Heard this dicussed on radio the other day - the technology is already developed. Proponents say it will let them "promptly refill the shelves. Uh huh.

The chips don't work unless you run some sort of scanner over them; they have no power of their own. Thus, unless you're planning on letting the Grocery Cops install detectors at your front door, these RFID tags will do nothing of the sort.

If you're that paranoid, sign up for the grocery cards with a fake name and address. They NEVER ask for any sort of ID to prove you're who you claim to be when signing up for a card. If nobody's looking, you can even just reach over and grab a new one off the stack at the cash register and start using it without signing up at all. They don't need to be "turned on" first like a credit card or anything.

57 posted on 01/05/2003 6:47:30 PM PST by Timesink
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To: SpeakLittle_ThinkMuch
I don't keep that much in the account. I have had it stolen once. Called and reported it stolen and I was not charged anything.
58 posted on 01/05/2003 6:51:24 PM PST by packrat35
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To: Free State Four
I do that too! I am a 102-year old woman, from Antarctica, who lives at zip 20500 (the White House in DC).
59 posted on 01/05/2003 6:52:15 PM PST by FreedomCalls
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To: Boonie Rat
You certainly didn't have to give them the info, and they were under no obligation to give you a refund. Sales are final under contract law, except in very limited circumstances.

Many consumers think they have a right to return merchandise for a refund. It's not true.

60 posted on 01/05/2003 6:53:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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