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The justice understands what happens during sexual congress. It is not a debating society or a telegraph station receiving dispassioned messages. The justice understands that language requires context to be taken into account in order to grasp what's going on .

I have no doubt that the girl was also trying to push the boy off of her while she told him she needed to go home. There's your context...

You would like to believe it was as you say, if you take it that he was the insistent aggressor and she was yelling and screqaming and pushing him away. Create the scene that way if you want. But you are willfully inisisting on applying what you must know about human nature ---even your own experience. Why it is that you have placed yourself in that place, is itself interesting. Don't you have exeperience about how people, men and women, do complex things and then may wish it to be a certian way after the fact. Why should we credit the protesting woman after the fact. This is the alleged "date rape" scenario. She apparently entered into a certain sexual relation witht person, when it "goes beyond what I hoped it to be, maybe hwat I hoped before the event or maybe what I no hope after the event since I now have regrets and now "believe" that he isnisted on it happening.

Do you really think a just and fair legal fact-finding and analysis can be applied to such a situation?

I note the following facts. The girl did not say stop. The girl did not state she was fighting him what she talked about was going home. Her lack of clarity alone should be enough to be certain there was reasonable doubt the young man raped her. We are talking about two young people who were engaging in what both said was consensual sex. I also question how long it took him to stop. who had the stop watch to time it at a minute and a half or was it just guess.

If it was a guess and not the result of looking at a watch even then I would not necessarily call it rape.

Five minutes or even three minutes might constitute assault at that point but once the act is started it can not be considered rape unless there is an element of force in continuing and there was no such fact noted by the appeals court.

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You would like to believe it was as you say, if you take it that he was the insistent aggressor and she was yelling and screqaming and pushing him away. Create the scene that way if you want. But you are willfully inisisting on failing to apply what you must know about human nature ---even your own experience. Why it is that you have placed yourself in that place, on that rather limited choice of all the various ways it could have happened? The answer as to why you want to be in that position is itself interesting---but it does show that your chief interest is not the truth--or being fair.

Don't you have exeperience about how people, men and women, do complex things and then may wish it to be a certain different way after the fact. This is the alleged "date rape" scenario. She apparently entered into a certain sexual relation with this person, when it "goes beyond what I[she] hoped it to be, maybe what I [she] hoped before the event; OR maybe what I [she] now hopes after the event since I [she] now have regrets and now "believe" that it was he who insisted on it happening --and that I [she] was really innocent.

Do you really think that a just and fair legal fact-finding and analysis can be applied to such a situation? The older jurisprudence refused to be drawn into this quagmire--for very good reasons. Now, the contemporary mind--prejudiced by and for feminists--leaps into this quicksand and truth and justice are the victims.

I have no doubt that the girl was also trying to push the boy off of her while she told him she needed to go home. There's your context...

So let me get this straight.
A woman consents to sex, voluntarily goes to a private place where only the participants are present, they begin to have intercourse, and THEN changes her mind.
The man continues for another minute and that constitutes RAPE?
And just HOW is the court to evaluate that set of circumstances? No other witnesses, no physical evidence of force, all just on the "state of mind" of the women?
O sure that makes for wonderful law...