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Nationwide Health alert issued in Britian. Authorities don't know where the manufactured stuff may have been distributed or if it even has been yet.
1 posted on 01/07/2003 9:05:21 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: MadIvan
ping.

Stay safe.
2 posted on 01/07/2003 9:06:55 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: snippy_about_it
What the hell???

I just got in.....oh wow!

4 posted on 01/07/2003 9:11:12 AM PST by Dog (Shecky Green is my hero.......)
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To: snippy_about_it
RICIN and its potential as a biowarfare agent
8 posted on 01/07/2003 9:19:19 AM PST by Sender
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To: snippy_about_it
This was the plot of the death of a woman on CSI last Thurs. She was trying to kill her boss....and made the stuff in her kitchen. She had laid her pen down. At work the next day she put the pen in her mouth and oops. Very interesting. The mistake this story pushing is that you have to have a big manufacturing ops. Any kitchen will do. NOW THAT'S SCAREY.
10 posted on 01/07/2003 9:20:23 AM PST by marty60
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To: snippy_about_it
They should get all the information out of these bastards that they can - by torture if necessary - and then line them up and shoot them. This is war.
13 posted on 01/07/2003 9:24:08 AM PST by Timesink (FINISH THE DAMN GAME!!!!)
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To: snippy_about_it
>>The men are of north African origin.

Why don't they just say that they're peaceful, friendly Muslims?
16 posted on 01/07/2003 9:26:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: snippy_about_it
Ah...the power of beans.
18 posted on 01/07/2003 9:27:36 AM PST by lepton
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A couple of links for perusal at your leisure.

Antiterrorism Law Used In Poison Smuggling Case
The New York Times, December 23, 1995, p. 7.

An unlikely threat
Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists - July/August Issue 1999
19 posted on 01/07/2003 9:27:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: RaceBannon
Yoiks
21 posted on 01/07/2003 9:33:48 AM PST by firebrand
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To: snippy_about_it
Um, wanna bet within three weeks this deal is linked to Iraq?
Not that we really needed any MORE smoking guns...
BTW - is this derrived from the same stuff as "castor oil"?
22 posted on 01/07/2003 9:39:39 AM PST by Psalm 73
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To: snippy_about_it
I just got back yesterday - I put all my drinking water through a filter, I have no idea if this helps or not.

If I get ill, I will say so. So far I feel fine, if a little tired from my trip yesterday.

Regards, Ivan

27 posted on 01/07/2003 9:53:05 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: snippy_about_it
What do they call that? When a country hands over a prisoner to a 3rd party after unsuccessful attempts to gain information from them in interviews? Torture by proxy is *not* the term I'm thinking of...they actually have a term for it. Heard it on the FOXNEWS just the other day.

Put these 6 on the RACK and make them talk. Quickly!

32 posted on 01/07/2003 10:23:31 AM PST by DCPatriot
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To: snippy_about_it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2636153.stm (BBC News)

'Most important find since 11 September'

Frank Gardner
BBC security correspondent

Government sources say that this was an intelligence led operation and that it was done through tip-offs.

It was a joint operation with the security service and the Metropolitan Police and of course, it has got major health issues attached.

The six men who are under arrest are north African.

Of course, one line of inquiry for the police will be of any possible links with al-Qaeda, although investigations are continuing.

The quantities of poison that were found are quite small, it was traces of ricin.

Ricin is a very toxic poison which was used some years ago by Bulgarian secret agents to assassinate a dissident in London by injecting a pellet.

It is a contact poison which means that if you touch it and it is ingested into the skin then you die. It also affects you if you inhale it.

With the quantities of ricin found it is not thought that it was necessarily a chemical bomb that was going to be detonated.

But still, it is an extremely serious poison and of course it is raising all sorts of questions about what people planned to do with this.

Psychological damage

Possibilities are being looked at such as was it going to be smeared onto doors, onto some area where lots of people would touch it?

It would not, in this form, necessarily kill a lot of people, but the psychological damage would be enormous.

This is the most significant find of poisonous materials in Britain since 11 September 2001 in relation to terrorism and possible attacks on Britain.

So it is very important, even though the actual volume was relatively low this is a very significant find.

Serious chemicals

This was what would be called a 'specific threat'.

For example, when we had the London Underground scare there was no actual specific threat. In this case there really was - these are serious chemicals.

Al-Qaeda and its affiliates have made a strategic decision in the last few months that Britain is a legitimate target for them.

Initially they wanted to target America and Israel.

They have broadened that to Britain, France, Italy, Spain and Australia - countries which they see as being part of the US-led coalition in the War on Terror that is targeting Muslims.

When the British government or various agencies have issued these often rather garbled, confusing and slightly hyped-up warnings about non-specific threats they are in a way covering themselves.

They see so much intelligence, some of it true, some of it false about possible attacks on Britain and Europeans using poisonous chemicals they feel they then have to make a warning.

34 posted on 01/07/2003 10:24:55 AM PST by colette_g
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To: lavaroise; Noswad; EditorTFP; Orion78; JanL
"Ricin found in London" ping. GRU / FSB / ErBu connection? Very strange.
38 posted on 01/07/2003 10:36:46 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: snippy_about_it
The men are of north African origin. They were arrested after an operation by the anti-terrorist branch in north and east London on Sunday.

What is this "north African origin" crap!!!? They know full well where these losers come from but they don't want to tell us. And they know what 'religion of peace' these Islamonazis follow too. Of course, they want us to believe there is nothing to see here and that we should just move along. Argh!!!

39 posted on 01/07/2003 10:36:50 AM PST by Spiff
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To: snippy_about_it
The men are of north African origin

Muslims from either Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, or Egypt.

44 posted on 01/07/2003 12:49:32 PM PST by angkor
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To: snippy_about_it
It is time to actually clamp down and catch these people and any organization that complains should also be treated as suspect.
54 posted on 01/08/2003 7:26:10 AM PST by Dustbunny
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