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Call them whatever you wish, just keep the government out of their purchasing decisions. That's conservatism.

Oh, if only life were so simple as that. You say gov't should have no say in the public's purchasing decisions where oil consumption is concerned. Do you believe that's the way it should be with every other resource having national security implications, as well?

You must be too young to remember the OPEC oil embargo. Maybe you haven't yet noticed how much of our economy runs on oil. Maybe you think the reason for the Persian Gulf War was to free the oppressed people of Kuwait.

As biblewonk said previously, oil is a strategic resource -- every bit as much as steel, uranium, ordnance, or military personnel. Ever heard of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Oh, I suppose to be a "real" conservative, one has to let the "free market economy" determine the availability of oil, the size of the military, the number of aircraft carriers, and our foreign policy response to North Korea.

Yeah, go ahead and "drive large," my fine, self-proclaimed conservative friends. Keep the terrorists swimming in US$.

Oh, if only life were so simple as that.

It is.

You say gov't should have no say in the public's purchasing decisions where oil consumption is concerned. Do you believe that's the way it should be with every other resource having national security implications, as well?

Oil only has “national security implications” because of government interference in the marketplace for oil. Without that interference, brought about by misguided environmentalists, we would have very adequate supplies of domestic oil.

You must be too young to remember the OPEC oil embargo.

Guess again.

Maybe you haven't yet noticed how much of our economy runs on oil.

Guess again.

Maybe you think the reason for the Persian Gulf War was to free the oppressed people of Kuwait.

It was one of them. Preventing a complete lunatic from gaining access to a large percentage of the world’s accessible oil was a larger reason. Again, the reason the Arab world has such a large percentage of the world’s “accessible” oil is that their governments are not short-sighted enough to restrict their access to it.

As biblewonk said previously, oil is a strategic resource -- every bit as much as steel, uranium, ordnance, or military personnel.

No it isn’t. We have plenty of oil. Look it up.

Ever heard of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve?

Yes.

Oh, I suppose to be a "real" conservative, one has to let the "free market economy" determine the availability of oil,

Yes.

the size of the military, the number of aircraft carriers, and our foreign policy response to North Korea.

Of course not. That’s idiotic.

Yeah, go ahead and "drive large," my fine, self-proclaimed conservative friends.

I drive a Mazda Protégé - 25 mpg city / 31 mpg highway. But I still support the right of American consumers to choose the type of vehicle they want to drive without interference from misguided environmentalists and their luddite agenda.

Keep the terrorists swimming in US$.

As long as enviroidiots, like yourself, restrict access to domestic oil, I guess we all will.

"You say gov't should have no say in the public's purchasing decisions where oil consumption is concerned."

That pretty much somes up true capitalism. When the government controls the disbursement of resources that's called "communism". Certainly you're old enough to remember that term.

"Do you believe that's the way it should be with every other resource having national security implications, as well? "

Perhaps if we actually declared "war" via the U.S. Constitution's outline then I might take you seriously. Until then, we apparently have plenty since the fedgov hasn't said squat.

"You must be too young to remember the OPEC oil embargo."

I'm not. But the commielibs refused to allow more drilling also. We could be self sufficient but because we've allowed the left to control the agenda, we now must deal with overseas situations. Ah well, maybe if we kept the government out of the oil business beyond health regulations, then and only then would we succeed in what we should be: Independent.

"Maybe you haven't yet noticed how much of our economy runs on oil. Maybe you think the reason for the Persian Gulf War was to free the oppressed people of Kuwait."

You're more guilty than the people you preach against. Do you own Tupperware? What do you think the keyboard on your pc and plastic in the monitor and CPU case is made of, Play-DOH? Do you use Saran Wrap, Q-tips, a toothbrush, drink Coke in 2 liter bottles, etc.?? Either set and example and boycott all oil based products to send your message or shut up. Gasoline consumption by consumers is so minute compared to the manufacturing side of things, it's not even funny.

" Oh, I suppose to be a "real" conservative, one has to let the "free market economy" determine the availability of oil, the size of the military, the number of aircraft carriers, and our foreign policy response to North Korea."

If you haven't noticed, our "free market economy" already has. The Russians are putting 20% of their fleet in mothballs; do you know why? Because they are out of money. We would not be able to BUILD and DEPLOY the largest navy in the world if the success of our market has not allowed this to be created.

"Yeah, go ahead and "drive large," my fine, self-proclaimed conservative friends.

I am. I will. And at 13 mpg, that's my business, not yours.

"Keep the terrorists swimming in US$."

Tin foil alert.

"Oh, if only life were so simple as that. You say gov't should have no say in the public's purchasing decisions where oil consumption is concerned. Do you believe that's the way it should be with every other resource having national security implications, as well? "

Since you're the true DUtard, I thought I would go back to your original quote. The problem with this world is that there are too many do-gooders and fools who take a black and white issue and make it into a rainbow like the queers and Frisco parade around. The world is not like that. The resources either have to be managed by the government (communism) or the market (capitalism). If you can not handle that basic concept of the way of the world, go back to DU and play with the children. This is a serious matter. We are discussing the potential of government regulation and control of economic resources. Even during WWII when resources were declared to be strategic resources (note that that was a "declared" war) the capitalist system hummed along producing and managing the resources because the government told them what they needed. The rationing program and restrictions on consumer goods was not debated because there was a true threat to national security and the existence of the USA. Now until our borders are militarized (like 1942), a war is declared (like 1941) and the resources openly declared to be rationed for the need of our survival (hello, I don't think I've heard W say that yet, have you?) then let the market do it's job. Until then, shut up, go back to hugging your tree, or burning your draft card or whatever it is you hippie-commie-lib types do.