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To: Platero
I did answer your question. Look the question at hand is what do WE want to do to solve the problem. If WE are going to fix it then what WE have to do is make Mexico a place worth staying in. If WE don't want to solve the immigration problem then what WE should do is nothing. That's the framing of the debate, what should WE do, I gave an answer. Just because you don't like the framing of the debate doesn't make my answer wrong, it means you want a totally different debate.

No my original post STANDS AS WRITTEN. Why did massive emigration from Ireland stop? Because Ireland got it together and stopped being a crappy place to live. Why did massive emigration from Italy stop? Because Italy got it together and stopped being a crapy place to live. Why did massive emmigration from Sicily stop? Because Sicily got it together and stopped being a crappy place to live. Nothing about America changed to make it less desirable to live in (actually from the perspective of immigrants it probably changed for the better since we started adding social services), the places people were leaving in droves changed. That's how it stops.

Now either we can try to help Mexico or we can ignore it. But if we think massive immigration is a problem for America then the best solution available to us is to make Mexico a place worth staying in. If we don't want to help Mexico be a place worth staying in then we might as well stop bitching about the immigration problem because none of the other "answers" being presented will be effective.
120 posted on 01/11/2003 6:27:51 AM PST by discostu (Life sucks, humans are fallible, feces occurs... deal)
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To: discostu
"But if we think massive immigration is a problem for America then the best solution available to us is to make Mexico a place worth staying in."

It's also a problem for Mexico. Mexico won't be a place worth staying in until it stops trying to get rid of it's people, how can they begin to solve their problems until they try to keep the people they need in that country?

Los páramos desiertos

http://www.diario.com.mx/servicios/hemeroteca/nota.asp?notaid=21927

A good article showing why all this is leading to more instability in Mexico, a worsening of conditions there.

130 posted on 01/11/2003 8:38:03 AM PST by FITZ
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