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To: A. Pole
"I don't know about Mexico, but Poles tend to be proud and resent to be treated as inferiors. Imagine how the American white collar or upper class men would react if they were required to "punch in" or pee at random when ordered to test for drugs. It looks that those newcomers are not eager to take their "proper" place as lower class peons."

Actually, the problem with the new Polish immigrants is their tendency to treat all others as inferiors. Most of us in manufacturing have punched the time clock and been subject to drug testing and , as Americans, we know that it goes with the territory. These guys come here and can't believe that their expected to work to get paid. Too much socialism, I guess.
20 posted on 01/11/2003 9:48:25 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief
"I don't know about Mexico, but Poles tend to be proud and resent to be treated as inferiors. Imagine how the American white collar or upper class men would react if they were required to "punch in" or pee at random when ordered to test for drugs. It looks that those newcomers are not eager to take their "proper" place as lower class peons."

Actually, the problem with the new Polish immigrants is their tendency to treat all others as inferiors. Most of us in manufacturing have punched the time clock and been subject to drug testing and , as Americans, we know that it goes with the territory. These guys come here and can't believe that their expected to work to get paid. Too much socialism, I guess.

Not really. East Germans and Czechs had more socialism than Poles (Commies in Poland failed to eradicate small business and force peasants to give up their farms while Germans or Czechs tended to be more obedient and docile).

The proud or haughty Polish attitude made them bad candidates for German or Soviet occupation. Even during the Stalin's time Commies had to adress the low ranking workers "Sir" (Pan) instead of "comrade" ("towarzysz"). In this aspect many Americans who "know that it goes with the territory" are more similar to Germans. What BTW is good for productivity and organisation - Poles are clearly behind their Western neighbours :).

26 posted on 01/11/2003 9:58:15 AM PST by A. Pole
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