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Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
SHOTGUN NEWS ^ | 1/11/03 | Amicus Populi

Posted on 01/11/2003 10:15:11 AM PST by tpaine

Ms. Nancy Snell Swickard - Publisher Shotgun News P. O. Box 669, Hastings, NE 68902

Dear Ms. Swickard,

I was very distressed to see the remark of one of your subscribers which you quoted on page 8 of your October 1 (1996) issue. The support of the "Drug War" by anyone who values the 2nd Amendment, and the rest of the Bill of Rights, is the most dangerous error of thinking in the politics of the "gun control" debate. This error is extremely widespread, although there have been some recent signs that some Americans are seeing through the propaganda of the Drug Warriors which affects all levels of our society.

Sadly, major players in the defense of the 2nd Amendment (like the NRA) show no signs of awareness of the part played by the Drug War in our present hysteria over violence. This is a serious error, because the violence produced by the Drug War is one of the main reasons that a majority of American citizens support gun control. Without the majority of a citizenry frightened by endemic violence, Mr. Clinton and his allies in the Congress would not enjoy the power they now possess to attack the Bill of Rights.

To understand the effect of the Drug War, we must understand it for what it is: the second Prohibition in America in this Century. I do not need to remind anyone who knows our recent history what a disaster the first Prohibition was. It is a classic example of the attempt to control a vice--drunkenness--by police power. It made all use of alcohol a case of abuse. It produced such an intense wave of violence that it gave a name--The Roaring Twenties--to an entire decade. It lead to the establishment of powerful criminal empires, to widespread corruption in police and government, and to a surge of violence and gunfire all over the land. And it produced a powerful attack on the Bill of Rights, including the most successful campaign of gun control laws in America up to that time.

Before the first Prohibition criminalized the trade in alcohol, liquor dealers were ordinary businessmen; after 1920 they were all violent criminals fighting for their territories. We had gang wars, and drive-by shootings, and the use of machine guns by criminals.

We now have the same effects of the first Prohibition in the present Drug War, and Americans appear to be sleepwalking through it with no apparent understanding of what is happening. It is testimony to the truth of Santayana's famous remark that those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it. We must understand that this has all happened before, and for the same reasons.

It is essential that defenders of the 2nd Amendment understand that the whole Bill of Rights is under attack by the Drug War, and that assaults on the 2nd Amendment are a natural part of that trend. What is the main premise of a gun-control law? It is that guns are implements which are too dangerous to entrust to the citizenry. What is the main premise of Drug Prohibition? It is that drugs are substances which are too dangerous to entrust to the citizenry. Both lines of reasoning say that because a few people abuse something, all Americans must be treated like children or irresponsibles. All use is abuse.

This is an extremely dangerous idea for a government, and it leads inevitably to tyranny. It is a natural consequence that such thinking will lead to attacks on the Bill of Rights, because that is the chief defense in the Constitution against abuses of government power.

Since the beginning of the Drug War, no article of the Bill of Rights has been spared from attack. There has been an enormous increase in police power in America, with a steady erosion of protections against unreasonable search and seizure, violations of privacy, confiscation of property, and freedom of speech. We have encouraged children to inform on their parents and we tolerate urine tests as a condition of employment for anyone. All who question the wisdom of Drug Prohibition are immediately attacked and silenced. These are all violations of the Bill of Rights. Are we surprised when the 2nd Amendment is attacked along with the others?

We understand that opponents of the 2nd Amendment exaggerate the dangers of firearms and extrapolate the actions of deranged persons and criminals to all gun owners. That is their method of propaganda. Do we also know that Drug Warriors exaggerate the hazards of drug use--"all use is abuse'--in the same way formerly done with alcohol, and extrapolate the condition of addicts to all users of drugs? That is their method of propaganda. Most Americans are convinced by both arguments, and both arguments depend on the public's ignorance. That is why discussion and dissent is inhibited.

Most Americans are moving to the idea that drugs and guns are evil and should be prohibited. Encouraging one way of thinking supports the other because the logic of the arguments is the same.

Why not prohibit a dangerous evil? If every drinker is a potential alcoholic, every drug-user a future addict, and every gun-owner a potential killer, why not ban them all? There is no defense against this logic except to challenge the lies that sit at the root of the arguments. Those are the lies promoted by the prevailing propaganda in support of all Prohibition. We cannot oppose one and support the other. To do so undermines our efforts because all these movements walk on the same legs.

If we do not explain to people that the fusillade of gunfire in America, the return to drive-by shooting, and our bulging prisons, come from the criminalizing of commerce in illegal drugs, we cannot expect them to listen to a plea that we must tolerate some risk in defense of liberty.

Why should we tolerate, for the sake of liberty, the risk of a maniac shooting a dozen people, when we cannot tolerate the risk that a drug-user will become an addict?

In fact, very few gun-owners are mass murderers and a minority of drug-users are addicts, but people are easily persuaded otherwise and easily driven to hysteria by exaggerating dangers. What addict would be a violent criminal if he could buy his drug from a pharmacy for its real price instead of being driven to the inflated price of a drug smuggler? How many cigarette smokers would become burglars or prostitutes if their habits cost them $200 per day? How many criminal drug empires could exist if addicts could buy a drug for its real cost? And, without Prohibition, what smuggler's territory would be worth a gang war? And why isn't this obvious to all of us?

It is because both guns and drugs have become fetishes to some people in America. They blame guns and drugs for all the intractable ills of society, and they never rest until they persuade the rest of us to share their deranged view of the evil power in an inanimate object.

They succeed, mainly, by lies and deception. They succeed by inducing the immediate experience of anxiety and horror by the mere mention of the words: Guns! Drugs! Notice your reactions. Once that response is in place, it is enough to make us accept any remedy they propose. An anxious person is an easy mark. They even persuade us to diminish the most precious possession of Americans, the one marveled at by every visitor and cherished by every immigrant, and the name of which is stamped on every coin we mint--Liberty. They say that liberty is just too dangerous or too expensive. They say we will have to do with less of it for our own good. That is the price they charge for their promise of our security.

Sincerely,

Amicus Populi


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
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To: Texaggie79
Well, then you CERTAINLY won't buy land in this country, or any country I can think of.

Does squatting count?

521 posted on 01/22/2003 6:59:43 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: anobjectivist
Hey genious, if we make drugs legal, who in their right mind will market legal cocaine, heroin, crack, and the like??{psssst ever hear of the tobacco liability lawsuits???}REMEMBER THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY MOTTO :" GIVE ME LIBRIUM, OR GIVE ME METH"
522 posted on 01/22/2003 7:06:34 PM PST by BOOTSTICK
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To: Texaggie79
Good grief. Most drugs are already legal.

Just this last week a women in a suv pulled out in front of my cousin totalling his Camaro. He called me and I rushed to the scene since it was nearby as he had just left my office.

I stood on the curb observing the scene of the accident as she was arrested. From her behavior I assumed she was drunk. Turns out she was driving under the influence of prescribed and legal drugs...and not one of those "illicit" ones that you fear which obviously inhibited her ability to drive.

Could you have prevented her with a law?





523 posted on 01/22/2003 7:55:22 PM PST by takenoprisoner (stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
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To: Roscoe
Roscoe: "Does squatting count?"

I believe that is what you do here. Does it count? Nope
524 posted on 01/22/2003 8:45:58 PM PST by takenoprisoner (stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
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To: BOOTSTICK
bootstick asks: "who in their right mind will market legal cocaine, heroin, crack, and the like?"

Who in their right mind markets any drugs? Hello, pharmaceutical companies do. Have you been injured by a legally prescribed drug? If so, there are innumerable TV lawyers pleading for your case.

525 posted on 01/22/2003 8:52:10 PM PST by takenoprisoner (stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
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To: takenoprisoner
Libertarian beliefs bear little resemblance to reality.
526 posted on 01/23/2003 12:21:59 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Nothing is 'real' to a delusionary roscoe.
527 posted on 01/23/2003 6:57:31 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Texaggie79
In other words, you have no citation for your outlandish contention that FedGov or the States own all the land, is that about the sum of it?
528 posted on 01/23/2003 8:05:39 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: tpaine
"when your local government votes on local laws" these laws must conform to the base principles of our constitution.

No friggin duh. And to bad for you local and state drug laws, in no way, violate the USC.

529 posted on 01/23/2003 8:22:57 AM PST by Texaggie79 (seriously joking or jokingly serious, you decide)
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To: Roscoe
Well, I guess, since squatting is basically acting like you own all rights to the land, most uninformed people do just that.
530 posted on 01/23/2003 8:25:23 AM PST by Texaggie79 (seriously joking or jokingly serious, you decide)
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To: takenoprisoner
Could you have prevented her with a law?

But you must ask, what WORSE would she be on if everything were legal and accessible.

531 posted on 01/23/2003 8:26:30 AM PST by Texaggie79 (seriously joking or jokingly serious, you decide)
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To: dcwusmc
The "citation" is at your local courthouse, are you too lazy to go look it up? Go read what rights you have to your land and tell me if you have ALL rights to your land.

Where else would you think I would be able to use as a source to prove this to you?

532 posted on 01/23/2003 8:28:43 AM PST by Texaggie79 (seriously joking or jokingly serious, you decide)
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To: Texaggie79
Since they seem to believe that property ownership is some kinda free lunch, squatting seemed an apt analogy.

"It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it, but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society." --Thomas Jefferson

533 posted on 01/23/2003 8:46:42 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Texaggie79
Hey, it's my land so I can dig up all these department of water and power pipes, can't I?
534 posted on 01/23/2003 8:48:31 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
It figures, Roscoe. So you'd favor letting R. Kelly define pedophilia. It's the same thing, after all. Government does NOT DEFINE our rights. We are BORN with them. The sole legitimate function of government is to protect the equal rights of ALL. No more, no less. Our rights include anything we wish to do which does not require an UNWILLING outside party to fulfill. And government's function is NOT to protect people from themselves, keep property values high or rob one group of people to pay for the fantasies of another group, such as WODDIES.
535 posted on 01/23/2003 8:57:13 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any governmeot)
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To: dcwusmc
"It is agreed by those who have seriously considered the subject, that no individual has, of natural right, a separate property in an acre of land, for instance. By an universal law, indeed, whatever, whether fixed or movable, belongs to all men equally and in common, is the property for the moment of him who occupies it, but when he relinquishes the occupation, the property goes with it. Stable ownership is the gift of social law, and is given late in the progress of society." --Thomas Jefferson
536 posted on 01/23/2003 9:02:50 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Texaggie79
Cite a law that says that government owns all the land. If it's true, I'm sure you can do that. It must be there, right? Cite one law that says so. Is that asking too much? Must be, because there IS NO SUCH LAW. And if you'd lie about this, what else would you NOT lie about?
537 posted on 01/23/2003 9:02:57 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any governmeot)
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To: Texaggie79
Therefore, when your local government votes on local laws, those very laws are directly effecting the land you own rights to.
It is subject to them, and any violation of them is punishable by government.
-ta79-

Lord but you are dense.

The issue is, that "when your local government votes on local laws" these laws must conform to the base principles of our constitution.
- You deny this simple fact.
519 tpaine


No friggin duh. And to bad for you local and state drug laws, in no way, violate the USC.
529 -ta79-

There you go again, proving my point. You deny, deny, deny. - Weird.
538 posted on 01/23/2003 9:16:22 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Texaggie79
takenoprisoner:
"Could you have prevented her with a law?"


But you must ask, what WORSE would she be on if everything were legal and accessible.
531 -ta79-

No, a rational person would not 'ask' that at all. -- You have once again demonstrated your near total inablity to comprehend the role of the rule of law in a free republic.
It is, imo, a constitutional principle, a 'given', that law does not/cannot prevent misbehavior. It can only punish.
539 posted on 01/23/2003 9:42:19 AM PST by tpaine
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To: dcwusmc
"A right of property in moveable things is admitted before the establishment of government. A separate property in lands, not till after that establishment. The right to moveables is acknowledged by all the hordes of Indians surrounding us. Yet by no one of them has a separate property in lands been yielded to individuals. He who plants a field keeps possession till he has gathered the produce, after which one has as good a right as another to occupy it. Government must be established and laws provided, before lands can be separately appropriated, and their owner protected in his possession. Till then, the property is in the body of the nation, and they, or their chief as trustee, must grant them to individuals, and determine the conditions of the grant." --Thomas Jefferson
540 posted on 01/23/2003 11:12:18 AM PST by Roscoe
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