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YUP. Banning guns caused crime to soar...


The solution by our Ultra-Liberal friends....


Ban toy guns...


Yep. Brilliant just brilliant!
1 posted on 01/11/2003 4:52:43 PM PST by vannrox
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To: *bang_list
BANG
2 posted on 01/11/2003 4:53:18 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox
Just this morning my dad and I were discussing the recent gun crimes in Britain. We know exactly why gun crime has increased in Britain. The handgun ban is only part of the reason.
5 posted on 01/11/2003 5:04:28 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: vannrox
Maybe next the sensitive liberal males will outlaw thinking about toy guns.

It's that horrible "gun culture" anyway. A little reeducation in the camps and Britian would become a Utopian wet dream.

For the children...

6 posted on 01/11/2003 5:10:32 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: vannrox
THE government moved yesterday to deflect criticism over a steep rise in gun crime by announcing a ban on the carrying of replica guns

Sounds reasonable to me. How else are you going to stop replica killings?

7 posted on 01/11/2003 5:14:56 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: vannrox
Problem: Criminals are robbing raping and killing honest tax paying Britishers
Solution: Ban toy guns
Result: New criminal class of people with toys
Crime wave: Unchanged though govt. crime figures now show new growing crime rate among what was once normal taxpayers.
Solution: Police State -confiscation legistlation-....Long live the NWO
Throw those who defend themselves against the beasts in jail....
And make room for the former tax payers....by releasing the real criminals
Good is bad....and Bad....is good....
Bring out "The Beast" ...........and "The lawless Man".............. IS LOOSED! ........
8 posted on 01/11/2003 5:31:39 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: vannrox
OK, Here is an island country, the ideal controlled setting that scientists love to study. Forst, we ban and confiscate all the guns on the island, gun crime increases, next we ban and confiscate anything that remotely resembles a gun.Gun crime increases. Next we punish people for defending their lives and property and make examples out of the "offenders"! Gun crime increases. They have cameras all over London, crime increases.

OK, now it's time to try something else, allow the "subjects" to own guns for self defense, and allow them the right to use them to defend their homes and lives, start hauling the thugs off in body bags and lets see the effect on crime. Anyone willing to stake their life savings on whether it will go down? I am.

9 posted on 01/11/2003 5:45:30 PM PST by chuknospam
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To: vannrox
I read this stuff and feel like I'm stuck in a Monty Python "Groundhog Day".

...or maybe Firesign Theater".

"Bailiff! Whack his pee-pee...with a toy gun!"

FMCDH

10 posted on 01/11/2003 5:48:19 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: vannrox; harpseal; Travis McGee; Squantos; sneakypete; Chapita
at a ban on the sale, ...of Brocock

Don't know what they are, but if they are dangerous, I want one.

11 posted on 01/11/2003 5:55:44 PM PST by razorback-bert (when brococks are outlawed, only outlaws will have 'em)
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To: vannrox
The weapon looks and feels like a real gun and can be bought legally over the counter for as little as £120.

Does anybody know what this expensive replica looks like?

Underworld dealers can easily convert a Brocock by inserting a metal rod into the barrel at a cost of about £70.

Putting a rod in the barrel usually causes a firearm barrel to burst. Did the idiot "journalist" really mean a tube, as in liner?

12 posted on 01/11/2003 5:58:41 PM PST by CPOSharky
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To: vannrox

Police have long lobbied for a ban on the sale of imitation weapons capable of conversion. In London, 75 per cent of guns seized are converted imitations or converted blank firers and senior officers claim many offences recorded as gun crime are carried out with such replicas.

The Brocock ME 38 air pistol, which can be illegally converted to fire bullets, now accounts for half of all converted firearms seized by police in London, according to the National Criminal Intelligence Service.

Last time I checked converted replicas/air pistols accounted for about 10% of all the firearms recovered by the police nationwide. Therefore, what's the government doing to stop the other 90%. I wonder how much we can rely on the NCIS's figures, considering that in January 2002 they said that "..converted Brococks now account for 35% of all guns recovered by the police." That was shown to be a cynical exaggeration which was not picked up on by the media, or reported by them, and especially not by the BBC (who made such a big deal about it in the first place). I think we need to take a close look at the NCIS's figures to make sure they aren't pulling the wool over our eyes again, which I'm pretty sure they are.

The weapon looks and feels like a real gun and can be bought legally over the counter for as little as £120.

Well, isn't that terrible /sarcasm.

Underworld dealers can easily convert a Brocock by inserting a metal rod into the barrel at a cost of about £70.

What, a metal rod?! Then it would be bound to blow up in your hand - that must be quite a common occurrence with converted air pistols. They would also need to cut down .22 rimfire rifle catridges, reload them and probably change the gun's barrel. Not to mention placing new receiver tubes in the revolver's chambers, so that the bullets would fit. Hang on, it would be easier to just buy a real firearm from the black market. What self respecting gangster would carry a .22 calibre converted air pistol anyway?

14 posted on 01/11/2003 6:13:05 PM PST by David Hunter
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To: facedown
Slow learner alert.
19 posted on 01/11/2003 6:28:46 PM PST by sistergoldenhair (Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
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To: vannrox
Just yesterday I was moving my TV memorabilia collection, and noticed one item, a British-made Man from UNCLE toy pistol. These days the sight of it would give those scaredy-cat British folks heart palpitations because it looks extremely realistic. Back in the 1960's people had more sense that sometimes a toy is just a toy. (Thank goodness I brought it back from London years ago - these days, it'd never get through airport screening.)
21 posted on 01/11/2003 9:23:42 PM PST by Moonmad27 ("I am not a number...")
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To: vannrox; Timesink
They are gonna ride their leftist ideology right down the crapper. Also, a poll posted by Timesink says the citizens are at odds with the British Government in every possible way.. They are simply not being represented. This should serve as a warning to us all.
23 posted on 01/12/2003 12:36:49 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (I am Bad Ash..)
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