[Paul Atreides]

They have been saying for the past twenty years that Republicans were going to kill their children, throw the old out into the streets, and clear the entire Earth of foliage. It hasn't happened yet. I hope that Americans see all of this for what it is.

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Why can't everybody keep this tax spin debate honest? Tax breaks are for taxpayers. Tax breaks for the poor is WELFARE. My youngest son has four kids, pays no income tax and gets about $4,000 per year back from the earned income credit! That's welfare in my book. Now the dems want to give him a payroll deduction rebate . Then he'll not have to pay much into social security.