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To: John Locke
"My sources say the Pyramid of Cheops was called akhet khufu, which means, unsurprisingly, "pyramid of cheops". The Egyptian word for pyramid is derived from their word for "horizon", not 'border'."

Since you do not accept the title "Great Pyramid of Giza" and that title was the one commonly used by the early Pyramidologists I named (who were not listed as Egyptologists to my knowledge) I am certain that you can use what you think is the ancient name and I can feel free not to do so.

As for the word Gizeh, we at least agree that it is "border" in Arabic. The words Great and Pyramid are neither Arabic nor Egyptian, yet we use those as names of the edifice while at or of Giza denotes location.

If the early explorers who became Pyramidologists spoke either Egyptian or Arabic in any degree of mastery it would be amazing. It did not hamper their work or bring it into question (even though many times their conclusions have proven fanciful).

W.M.F.Petrie the "father of modern archaeology' who is also considered an Egyptologist named his book 'The Pyramids and Temples of Gizeh'. He is highly regarded even today by Dr.Z Hawass the Egyptian who was and I believe may still be in charge of the Pyramids on the plain of Giza on behalf of the Egyptian government. I do not find any evidence that Petrie had any command of the language of Egypt although he had the rudimentary grammar of French,Greek and Latin as was usual bare minimum in that day.
http://home.uleth.ca/geo/vitae.htm

I suspect that you need to use the Egyptian name which you have learned and I feel just as comfortable using the English name which also appends the word Giza as the British Petrie did.

When talking about this Pyramid none of us is likely to agree with any of the rest of us as to almost anything said about it. Here most any of us may stand accused of "straining at gnats and swallowing camels".

Sorry Capt's gnat was a choke point for you as the Egyptian name must be for me since I do not speak or comprehend the Egyptian language and when I was taught the listed seven wonders of the world in school the phrase taught to me was The Great Pyramid at(or of) Giza.

Blessings!
79 posted on 01/13/2003 10:34:00 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Spirited
Thank you for your reply. I'm glad we have clarified the issues, and also agree that many people who have studied the Great Pyramid have come to fanciful conclusions. (That, by the way, one one of the things that motivated me to learn Egyptian - what did these marvellous people have to say in their own words?).

Blessings likewise to you.

80 posted on 01/13/2003 10:44:08 PM PST by John Locke
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