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To: William Terrell
"A peaceful religion having such an "non-peaceful extreme measure" to convert or destroy infidels?"

How many times have you read the Qur'an? You haven't? That means that you are drawing your conclusions from parsed bits of the book, and are in fact facilitating the spread of the extremist interpretation of the book.

The Bible instructs Christians to put down the sword, and that we shall not kill...yet Christians in the military do. These Muslims are members of our Armed Forces, they are sworn to follow orders, and defend the country. Furthermore, how do you know that ANYONE will actually pull a trigger during a firefight?

"Read their holy book about Muslims attacking other Muslims and the consequences thereof."

One of the bloodiest struggles going on in Africa right now is in Algeria (a largely Muslim country), where the military has fought a war precisely to prevent the Sha'riah from being implemented. How can this be if the Qur'an tells them to do so? The targets of Islamic violence in Egypt, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Algeria, and other nations are their fellow Muslim, many of whom are fighting back even as we speak.

The most important part of a battle, is to identify the enemy. That's what I'm setting out to do.

I am not saying that the enemy isn't Islamic, I am saying that all Muslims are not the enemy.

The enemy is Saudi Arabia, and Wahabbism.

165 posted on 01/16/2003 2:16:46 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I would add that a large part of the Algerian military is Muslim, yet somehow they don't see the sha'riah as being the way to go. How could this be?

That being said, I would add that another enemy to consider is Khomeinism, the politicized form of Shi'ism that currently rules Iran and parts of Lebanon. Of course, if polls and street protests are anything to judge by, the Iranians are currently rejecting that interpretation in droves.
166 posted on 01/16/2003 3:26:57 PM PST by Angelus Errare
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I am not saying that the enemy isn't Islamic, I am saying that all Muslims are not the enemy.

The enemy is Saudi Arabia, and Wahabbism."

So shall we conclude ALL Saudis and Wahabbis are your enemies, Luis?

While you may choose to give the benefit of doubt for certain Islamic sects, you'll pardon the rest of us for NOT being quite as selective as you...

And BTW -- the last individual I would want in a foxhole with me while battling for my life in a Muslim country is -- you guessed it. An American Muslim serviceman.

185 posted on 01/16/2003 7:36:54 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Luis Gonzalez
How many times have you read the Qur'an? You haven't? That means that you are drawing your conclusions from parsed bits of the book, and are in fact facilitating the spread of the extremist interpretation of the book.

I haven't read the book. I have seen plenty of passages from it that I bothered to verify came from it. They don't look too good.

The Bible instructs Christians to put down the sword, and that we shall not kill...yet Christians in the military do. These Muslims are members of our Armed Forces, they are sworn to follow orders, and defend the country. Furthermore, how do you know that ANYONE will actually pull a trigger during a firefight?

The Bible has no instructions about fighting against those of one's own faith. The Koran does. It's a well known fact that only part of a force actually fires their weapon in a firefight.

But that wasn't what I was talking about. Islamists just being present with infidels on an assault on other Islamists is against the strictures of that religion. And not using any "extremist" interpretation, either. The passages of the Koran I've seen are very clear about that. I'm sure you have seen the same ones.

One of the bloodiest struggles going on in Africa right now is in Algeria (a largely Muslim country), where the military has fought a war precisely to prevent the Sha'riah from being implemented. How can this be if the Qur'an tells them to do so? The targets of Islamic violence in Egypt, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Algeria, and other nations are their fellow Muslim, many of whom are fighting back even as we speak.

Maybe I should have been more clear. In my case in point, Islamists will be fighting against other Islamists on the side of the infidel. Of course Islamists have fought each other for centuries. But not on the side of, and for the purposes of those they consider infidels.

I am not saying that the enemy isn't Islamic, I am saying that all Muslims are not the enemy.

I'm not saying that the Muslim people are the enemy, either. I think people are never the enemy. The ideas in people's heads are the enemy.

260 posted on 01/17/2003 5:32:49 AM PST by William Terrell (Advertise in this space - Low rates)
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