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Why libs will never have a Rush Limbaugh
Jewish World Review ^ | 1/9/03 | Marianne M. Jennings

Posted on 01/14/2003 2:56:58 PM PST by rhema

The New York Times frets. Its first front page for 2003 blared, "Outflanked Democrats Wonder How to Catch Up in Media Wars." The piece recounts the failures of liberals on radio and television: Mario Cuomo, Jim Hightower, Geraldo. Now Mrs. Marlo Thomas, Phil Donahue, tanks on MSNBC because the callers are not there.

Worse, bemoans the Times, a massive media juggernaut of conservatives, from Rush Limbaugh to Bill O'Reilly, monopolizes thought. Flummoxed Democrats quoted in the article sound daft. Liberals envision daily staff meetings of media baron Rupert Murdoch's conglomerate in which CEO Rush Limbaugh gives Sean Hannity, Michael Reagan, et al., their talking points for the day. They then toss darts at photos of Alec Baldwin and Sean Penn, and depart in black helicopters. "The vast right-wing conspiracy! It's alive!!!" liberals point and bellow.

John Podesta, former Clinton chief of staff, and Stephen Kirsch, Internet entrepreneur and $1.0 million donor in 2002 alone to the DNC, exclaim, "We need our own Rush Limbaugh!" Fools they be. There will never be a liberal Rush Limbaugh. Conservative talk radio, Fox News and conservative personalities succeed because the public chooses them.

Liberals continue attempts at end runs around human nature. Their Title IX litigation that demands parity for female collegiate sports drones on because people don't want to pay to watch broads shooting hoops. Policy wonks jabbering about how bad things are in America is not their cup of tea either. When Americans have a choice, whether in mid-term elections, TV, or radio listening pleasure, they choose conservatives.

Democrats approached Haim Saban, Hollywood mogul and creator of deeply moving entertainment such as "The Power Rangers," to fund a network to counter Fox. For conspiracy theory, left-wing style, check out Saban's political donations. He gave $10.7 million to the DNC in 2002 and tosses about $1,000 donations to Hillary, Jean Carnahan, Feinstein, Kerry, etc. as if they were quarters.

Even Saban told them to pound sand because he understands the bottom line of business, and there will be no ROI from liberals. Heck, even liberals don't listen to themselves. NPR, the taxpayer-funded liberal media machine, has an audience that is 72% conservatives.

Why do conservatives listen to NPR? Well, we don't get near as angry about Daniel Schorr's contortions or Nina Totenberg's hissy fits as liberals do about Jerry Falwell or Charlton Heston. We listen for the hoots. To us, NPR is pure unadulterated fodder for laughing out loud at the bias, feigned concern, and stewing and fretting over SUVs. Herein lies the Podesta blind spot. Liberalism is the entertainment.

But James Carville and John McCain, who called Mr. Limbaugh a "clown," mistakenly believe that the draw is the packaging. This bunch of ragtag media warriors is not exactly Hollywood material. Mr. Limbaugh has no guests on his show. Bill O'Reilly is not a particularly pleasing man to gaze upon, but he tackles what was once unspeakable. Rita Cosby of Fox News has a weekend-anchor-hired-out-of-Pittsburgh-look, but she has a nose for news and will not let interviewees wriggle out of answering.

Liberals can't do witty satire or rapier-sharp response and analysis. Al Franken's book, "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot," is about all liberal comedy can offer. Michael Gartner, former head of NBC news when Dateline got caught adding incendiary devices to enhance video of its staged exploding GM gas tanks, said in response to Mr. Limbaugh decrying the unfairness of the report, "He's a showoff, a showman and a jerk."

Media conservatives draw audiences because they are upbeat about life and America. Sean Hannity sounds happy and grateful. Mr. Limbaugh breathes opportunity in America. Mr. O'Reilly smiles with self-deprecation even during his hate mail. Author and JWR columnist Ann Coulter told CSPAN she has a great life, thanks to the American people.

Who on the left could be upbeat? Find me one happy liberal. Imagine Nina Totenberg and Barbra Streisand as joint hosts. The listeners would need Midol. "Now, pulling off the robes and tackling the issues of the day, your host, Ruth Bader Ginsburg!"

Conservatives offer a marketplace of ideas. Listeners and viewers tune in to debate, not grouse. Vouchers got their legs in conservative media and will not die because these outlets keep the data flowing. Welfare reform founds its roots here. These ideas, ultimately embraced by Clinton himself, work! It's substance, not form.

By contrast, Donahue recently had Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins on to discuss the war in Iraq. If you're looking for substance, Sarandon, Robbins and Donahue are dead men walking.

Liberals will never have their Rush Limbaugh. Liberals lack solutions, not media outlets for their tired musings. It ain't the messenger, stupid; it's the message.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: fairnessdoctrine; media; ninatotenberg; npr; pbs
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To: Capt. Tom
I lived for 12 years under Coomo's deadly-dull misrule. I've listened to Limbaugh for 13 years, and watched his TV show more or less regularly. So I've had plenty of opportunity to evaluate both men, on radio and TV in both cases and, unfortunately in the case of Mr Coomo, in political office. So I wonder what sort of talent you refer to in saying Coomo is more talented than Rush. If you mean as radio hosts, I must wholeheartedy disagree. Coomo is boring and inept on radio and TV, I mean in addition to being a lying patrician dog.
41 posted on 01/14/2003 8:25:43 PM PST by redbaiter
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To: Capt. Tom
spald: "I heard Rush state a few weeks ago, that HE should be cloned, raised by Bill and Hillary and THEN the DemoCraps would have TALENT. LOL!"

Your post #20: "Mario Cuomo is a far greater talent than Limbaugh but he couldn't get the liberal message across. Rush wouldn't be able to either. - Tom"

You are missing the kernel of humor in the whole discussion.

42 posted on 01/14/2003 8:57:11 PM PST by spald
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To: spald; motzman; Joe_October; redbaiter
When I say Mario Cuomo is a better talent I mean as far as articulating a view. Unfortunately for the lefties the views are challenged in talk radio and unless you can defend your position you are in trouble. And they can't stand up to questioning. That's why it doesn t work for them

Years ago before Cuomo had a talk show I said to my wife,"If I go out and randomly kill 30 innocent people I want Mario Cuomo to give my side of the story. Mario is full of bull, but delivers it better than anyone I know. Limbaugh has it easy because he is right.

The real talent comes in conning people. It's easy to convince someone that 5+2=7 you have a lot of facts on your side. Try to convince them that 5+2=8

Both Limbaugh and Cuomo can do the 5+2=7 bit, but my money is on Cuomo to convince more people than Limbaugh that 5+2=8. - Tom

43 posted on 01/15/2003 7:33:33 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: rhema
Libs won't have a Rush, because a lot of them don't need the reinforcement of hearing somebody saying the same thing day after day.
44 posted on 01/15/2003 7:35:42 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Capt. Tom
Hmmm...perhaps. A valid arguement. I've heard Limbaugh take the liberal side of an arguement for fun, and he's pretty good at it.

But, do we really need anymore "talented" con-men in the politcal arena?
45 posted on 01/15/2003 7:41:34 AM PST by motzman (Bob Grant loves Mario Cuomo)
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To: Lady Heron
I think the Latin expression is: "Repetitio est mater studiorum".

Translation: Repetition is the mother of studies!
46 posted on 01/15/2003 7:42:09 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: altair
OK. Obviously, when debating politics outside of a conservative forum, the term "Hildabeast" stays in it's sheath.

And even if these terms weren't used, we would still be accused of being evil anyway...
47 posted on 01/15/2003 7:46:22 AM PST by motzman (Who let the dogs out?)
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To: Buckeye Bomber
Just for your information a true homophobe is a homosexual who calls himself "gay."
48 posted on 01/15/2003 7:49:10 AM PST by N. Theknow
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To: EggsAckley
Laz seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. His last post was on 11/25/2002.

To: exit82

In case no one has told you lately Laz, you're a good man. Glad to hear you are making the most of a second chance.

Thank you. I certainly have many flaws and areas to work on, but we all continue to develop and work on ourselves throughout our life.

Second chances are hard to come by. Magoo got one. In some ways, I did. In some ways, I did not. Healthy living is important from a physical, spiritual, and emotional level. I have learned this, and many other things.


207 posted on 11/25/2002 7:59 AM PST by Lazamataz
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49 posted on 01/15/2003 8:08:43 AM PST by RayBob (Put your ad here!)
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To: RayBob
Wow! He's been gone THAT long! I recall that he was getting married about that time; I suppose he's just being busy being married.
Thanks.
50 posted on 01/15/2003 8:11:56 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: motzman
But, do we really need anymore "talented" con-men in the politcal arena?

Of course not. I am not advocating that; just pointing out how some politicians like Cuomo have a talent for disinformation and conning the public.

When Clinton(Lewinski), Rep. Barney Frank(live in sex scandal) Ted Kennedy(Mary Joe Kopeckny death) or othere leftists get in trouble they con there way out of it. They are used to lying and deceiving, and they operate on the end justifies the means. They are stil here in your face.

Contrast the socialists with the right wingers like Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, Spiro Agnew, Richard Nixon,Rep. Bob Livingston;when they get is trouble they.....Well you get the picture. - Tom

51 posted on 01/15/2003 9:02:56 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Capt. Tom
Contrast the socialists with the right wingers like Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, Spiro Agnew, Richard Nixon,Rep. Bob Livingston;when they get is trouble they.....

Fall rather quickly since most Republicans won't stand for that kind of garbage. I'm still extremely pissed at Newt. I believed in him.
52 posted on 01/15/2003 9:38:20 PM PST by motzman ("Looney Insightful Linguist")
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To: motzman; gg188
Everyone can find rather easily . . .

"What's wrong with this picture" - - -

rather juvenile . . . liberals // liberalism - - -

but can not see what is right with this picture // God // life // America . . .

STUNTED MINDS // fragmented bitter philosophies ! ! !

I see a lot of abnormal people hating parents // family // God // life - - - over trivia ! ! !

No big picture - - - just cartoons . . . petty injustices !

DemacRATS // socialists // evolutionists and liberals are an attitude - - - grudge // gripe ! ! !

Look at hellary - - - social engineering // pandering . . . vs Reagan // optimism ! ! !
53 posted on 01/15/2003 9:52:26 PM PST by f.Christian (Orcs of the world: Take note and beware.)
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