[Clemenza]

(and not just German and Polish immigrants)

THIS WAS A TOTAL LIE!!! The Germans DID NOT participate in the draft riots and were, in fact, staunch supporters of the Union cause (which got them in trouble when they settled in places like Kerrville, Texas). As for the Poles, THERE WAS NO LARGE POLISH POPULATION IN NEW YORK IN THE 1860s. The few Poles that were in this country were in Panna Maria, Texas. The large wave of Polish immigrants came in the 1880s-1920s and, in any case, preferred places like Chicago, Cleveland and Pittsburgh (to say nothing of Northern New Jersey, where Clemenza's paternal family settled) over NYC.

[wardaddy]

Clemenza...you are correct..The movie Ride With The Devil deals with pro-Unionist German settlers in Missouri and Arkansas and the uncivil civil war there...not too shabby or preachy.

NP, (dudette)...lol....I hear Thomas Barksdale stirring and it's my time to give him his Enfamil Low Iron since I'm fooling around here and Annette is sawing logs.

Good Night....nice to hear from you....I'll reply about my dilletante anarchist later.

[Wallace T.]

Thank you for the correction. As you point out, there were few Polish immigrants anywhere in America in the 1860s. German immigrants and German Americans, of course, were far more numerous. I'm not aware that any of them living in the North, whether Protestant, Catholic, or freethinker, had much sympathy for the Confederacy. However, not all German Texans or German Southerners were Unionists. For example, relatives of Chester Nimitz, German-American naval chief of operations in the Pacific during World War II, fought for the Confederacy.

That the movie claimed German and Polish immigrants fought with the Irish in the New York draft riots is just another example of Director Scorcese's leftist bias.