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(Canadian) Officer: 'I Didn't Know the American Regulations' (Re: friendly-fire deaths)
The National Post ^ | January 15, 2003 | Michael Friscolanti

Posted on 01/15/2003 10:25:51 AM PST by quidnunc

Canadian unaware red blinking lights mandatory during training exercise

The deputy commander of the Canadian army brigade that was mistakenly bombed by a U.S. fighter pilot was unaware of American regulations that required him to display blinking red warning lights that could be seen from the sky, a military investigator heard yesterday.

Captain Joseph Jasper, in charge of co-ordinating the fateful drill, also said he did nothing to try to remedy communications breakdowns in the weeks leading up to the incident, even though he knew of two previous occasions in which U.S. fighter planes nearly bombed Canadian troops.

Capt. Jasper was testifying yesterday at a military hearing that will help determine whether Major Harry Schmidt and Major Bill Umbach, two U.S. fighter pilots, should be court martialled for the April 17 bombing, in which four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight others injured.

Maj. Schmidt has said he dropped the laser-guided, 250-kilogram bomb only because he thought the ground troops were firing at Maj. Umbach's plane.

Capt. Jasper said he had never heard of the U.S. protocol regarding blinking lights, which are meant to warn pilots that friendly forces are on the ground.

"I didn't know the American regulations and we weren't following them," said Capt. Jasper, the first witness to testify at an Article 32 hearing at the Barksdale Air Force Base. "If I had known about the regulations, I wouldn't have ignored them."

Capt. Jasper said though his brigade was under the command of a U.S. army task force, he organized the drill according to Canadian regulations, which require only that neon flares be laid out.

Capt. Jasper tried to explain that the glow sticks "matched the equivalent" of the red lights, but Charles Gittins, one of the lawyers representing the pilots, brushed him aside.

"Was a blinking red light operating at Tarnak farm on the night of the accident?" Mr. Gittins asked.

"Not that I can recall," Capt. Jasper said.

The pilots' lawyers also attacked the captain for other apparent inconsistencies.

For example, a corporal stationed in the Kandahar air tower told investigators that an order to hold fire had been issued in the minutes leading up to the bombing so that an unidentified aircraft could land, but the order never reached the soldiers on the ground.

Although the directive was not related to the F-16 Vipers being flown by Majors Schmidt and Umbach, their lawyers said the accident may have been avoided if the command was followed.

"You agree that it would have been an embarrassing fact for your unit to have been firing under a check fire?" Mr. Gittins asked Capt. Jasper.

"Yes sir," he said.

-snip-

"I think there was a breakdown in communication between air and ground [forces]," he said. "I don't think pilots flying in the area would have known that troops were on the ground."

Capt. Jasper also said he had heard of two previous incidents in which U.S. jets nearly bombed his comrades, but he said he did nothing to try to improve the way his brigade communicated with his superiors, and consequently, with the Air Force.

-snip-

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TOPICS: Canada; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada
Canadians Had Two 'Near Misses'
Soldier tells friendly fire hearing troops were 'nearly strafed before'
 

A Canadian Armed Forces officer testifying before a hearing into the friendly fire deaths of four of his comrades said he was aware of another incident in which Canadian soldiers were nearly shot at by coalition aircraft.

On the first day of hearings, Capt. Joseph Jasper was asked by a defence lawyer if he had been told about a near miss in March in which members of his unit were almost strafed by a coalition aircraft. Capt. Jasper said he had heard about the near miss and later said he was aware of another similar incident, but he did not give further details.

"There were two incidents that happened on operations that I was aware of," he said. An air force lawyer called reports of the incidents "hearsay."

Defence lawyer Dave Beck said the captain's testimony is further evidence that Operation Enduring Freedom was fraught with communications problems between air and ground forces. Mr. Beck said he was unable to get further details about the incidents because he wasn't allowed to interview the Canadians involved.

"They were nearly strafed before, but there was a Canadian liaison officer on the ground who prevented it from happening," Mr. Beck said after the hearing, adding that he was surprised to hear Capt. Jasper refer to a second incident.

Capt. Jasper, 32, was the safety officer on the Tarnak Farms firing range on April 17, the night the U.S. F16 pilots mistook an exercise for anti-aircraft fire and dropped a bomb in self defence.

The bomb killed four members of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry and injured eight.

The pilots, Maj. Harry Schmidt and Maj. William Umbach, are charged by the U.S. air force with involuntary manslaughter and assault.

They could be court martialled depending on the outcome of the hearings at the Barksdale Air Force Base.

The pilots' lawyers also questioned Capt. Jasper about reports that the range was under a "check fire" order to stop shooting at the time of the bombing because of incoming aircraft at the nearby Kandahar airport.

As first reported in the Citizen on Nov. 19, a Canadian sentry on duty in the airport control tower that night has testified he gave the "check fire" order five to 10 minutes before the bomb blast.

Cpl. Cheyenne Laroque told a U.S. board of inquiry into the accident that the order was still in place at the time of the accident.

But Capt. Jasper insisted yesterday that the check fire order had been lifted about 15 minutes before the bomb blast.

The pilots' lawyers entered a transcript of Cpl. Laroque's testimony into evidence yesterday, along with statements from two others who also told the board that the check fire was still in place.

Lawyer Charles Gittins, who represents Maj. Schmidt, told reporters it was inexcusable for both the U.S. and Canadian boards of inquiry to omit details of the check fire order.

"That's criminally negligent conduct by two generals, one American and one Canadian," he said, referring the U.S. air force Lt.-Gen. Stephen Sargeant and retired Gen. Maurice Baril, who led the inquiries last year.

Capt. Jasper also admitted that he was unaware of a U.S. requirement to have a blinking red light on range to indicate to friendly aircraft an exercise was underway.

Instead, the unit placed a line of four or five infrared glow sticks on the range and equipped soldiers with infrared strobes on their helmets. They were following Canadian procedures, but did not stick to the rules "by the letter," he said.

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(Glen McGregor in the The Ottawa Citizen, January 15, 2003)
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1 posted on 01/15/2003 10:25:51 AM PST by quidnunc
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2 posted on 01/15/2003 10:26:26 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: quidnunc
Well there you go, the Canadians know so little about fighting they didn't even know the rules of the game they were playing. About the same military quality we exhibited at Pearl Harbor.

I have about come full circle on these pilots. I do know they are being railroaded at the moment regardless of the truth of the matter.

3 posted on 01/15/2003 10:37:28 AM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: oldcomputerguy
not to disrespect the canadian soldiers but..(Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry ) does that name strike fear into enemies. Anyway from what i've heard its against policy for pilots to drop bombs on a small group,
4 posted on 01/15/2003 11:12:36 AM PST by Kewlhand`tek
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To: quidnunc
According to former pilot in the US Air force on MSNBC last night. The rules of engagement were clear and precise.

If fired upon by ground forces, pilots were instructed to leave the area by increasing speed while ascending ,and to contact command headquarters for further instructions.

The pilots ignored these direct orders by descending, and then engaging their targets. It was an obvious case of insubordination which resulted in the deaths of 4 soldiers.

Article IV of the military code of conduct states the following: "I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way."

Blaming the dead would be one way of defending yourself. The other possibility, is to accept responsibility for your insubordination.

I don't think these guys should go to jail, but I sure hope they never fly another combat mission.

5 posted on 01/15/2003 11:24:27 AM PST by jerod
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To: jerod
My thoughts exactly. The pilots are guilty of not following the proper rules of engagement. Charging them with murder is a politically motivated move to show contrition to the Canadians.

Bombing the Canadians was a military tragedy. Accidents happen in combat. Perhaps this accident would have been avoided had Canadian forces exercised regularly with US troops prior to deployment. Specifically, they would have known the proper way to organize their nighttime live fire exercise so that they were not at risk from patrolling US aircraft.

6 posted on 01/15/2003 11:43:50 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: jerod
It's fully possible that several parties are at fault.

If the Canadian troops were truly not aware of the IFF protocols, then somebody higher in their chain-of-command seriously screwed up.

This does not preclude, or excuse, if it happened, the possibility that the pilots violated their ROE.
7 posted on 01/15/2003 11:58:13 AM PST by jdege
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To: jerod
I don't think these guys should go to jail, but I sure hope they never fly another combat mission.

I agree wholeheartedly with that statement. However, during Desert Storm, a USAF A-10 launched an AGM-65D Maverick missile that hit a Marine Corps armored vehicle and killed six U.S. Marines. The families tried to sue Hughes Aircraft Company and the Air Force did everything they could to get the judge to throw out the suit.

I am familiar with that missile and a software error may have caused the missile to hit the wrong target. I am saying the pilot probably locked onto the correct target and the software error caused the missile to break lock and hit the Marines.

The Air Force Secretary, the manager of the Air Force's program office for the missile and two Marine Generals wrote letters to the judge asking him to make a "State Secrets Declaration" and throw the case out. I know at least one of those letters contained a lie.

Now, if the Air Force was so anxious to protect the contractor, why are they not willing to at least protect someone who voluntarily risks his life for the Air Force?

8 posted on 01/15/2003 12:15:06 PM PST by saminfl
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To: saminfl
As a Canadian, I think this is pointless, throwing these boys in jail. We understand that in war there are casualties, I don't understand why it's being done. I don't think anyone in Canada is going to feel 'better' about this if they serve 64 years in prison. It certainly shouldn't be done in order to save face either.
9 posted on 01/15/2003 12:25:44 PM PST by IvanT
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To: quidnunc
watching this video on cnn, it's obvious the poor pilots got bad info, and this works its way up to the top.

Also obvious, the poor suckers flying and doing the real action are going to get hung out to dry. A real shame.

The blame goes:

Whoever declared enemy territory incorrectly
Whoever got themselves into incorrect enemy territory
Whoever is in charge

In that order.
10 posted on 01/15/2003 9:59:05 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Monty22
You and I must have seen a different video. The AWACS controler told them to "hold fire".

The Pilots then took it upon themselves to roll in and drop a bomb - a clear violation of the ROE.

11 posted on 01/15/2003 10:06:21 PM PST by spectre
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To: spectre
Hold fire..
Then 'we're under fire, firing in self defense'
'copies'


That 'copies' should've been a negative in that situation. Or.. Too late.
12 posted on 01/15/2003 11:49:17 PM PST by Monty22
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