A Simple Question

Dispatches From The American Front | January 20, 2003 | James Benton

[Master Zinja]

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[DugwayDuke]

But the protestors blame all of these things upon the US. Therefore, they would turn each of these questions around asking us just how many more innocents must die before we change our policies?

It should be understood that this protestors don't give a fig leaf about any of these issues. They are protesting capitalism. Period. Anyone who doubts this should listen to what they say. There solution to terrorism is a revolution that converts the US to a socialist utopia.

[alloysteel]

You have to understand, that "free speech" only works in one direction for certain personalities. That is, they are free to speak out on even the most arrant nonsense, but you are not permitted to rebut their statements. Even on a logical basis. Consistency and logic are concepts that are beyond them. Verbal and even physical assaults on those who chose to disagree with their True Belief is their response, and they cannot see the disconnection. One suspects there may be a serious chemical imbalance somewhere in their mental processes.

[Master Zinja]

While I would hope some who protested would question their belief in "peace at all costs", you make a very good point as to the thoughts of many in those crowds. I had not thought of it in that way, but you're correct.

Zinja

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Yep. It is not "just" Iraq. it is not "just" oil. It is not "just" the economy. These people want to destroy the very foundations America was established on, and oppose anything that would continue to strenghten her.

[MrB]

oppose anything that would continue to strenghten her.

Pres Bush should take this as the extreme compliment then. These protestors, if you asked them, would oppose ANYTHING done or said by GW. Therefor, GW could be said to be the epitome of strengthening America.

There is an answer to why these people didn't oppose X42's bombing in Kosovo. That action did not further any of America's interests, therefor, it was OK. Bringing stability to the Middle East serves America and capitalism, so it must be opposed at all turns.

[RAY]

Normally folk from New York would have led the protest. Am I to understand no such rally was held in New York – if so, very interesting.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

The author is obviously mistaking these scum for human.

[kaydeecasa]

Isn't it great that the country we live in gives us the freedom of free speech when it could be our Achilles heel? While thousands of gatherers protest the upcoming war with Iraq, some of us are scratching our heads wondering why we seem to be divided again. I understand the people who want peace, but everyone needs to understand that we are in the position we have to be in. It's not like the U.S. chose for it to be this way. It isn't George W. Bush's fault, and when citizens gather together and protest him and his decisions, some of those who voted for him, isn't that what the enemy wants? For us to be divided? Wasn't that the goal of the terrorist attacks for the country to be crippled & divided? Makes you think. President Bush is our leader, we elected him to take on this position, and no matter what the media says, there is a reason he is president right now. Obviously, enough people thought he was capable of handling the job, so why don't we let him do it?? We don't have to agree with him, but why don't we support him, pray for him, trust his decisions? What more can we really accomplish by standing against him? Together we stand, divided we fall. Just an insight to make you think...

[mathluv]

To some, it will always be America's fault. We did not do enough. We did not pay them enough money. We did not grovel enough.

My seven year old grandson asked me why we all can't get along. I asked him if he knew any bullys at his school. I told him it takes two people wanting to get along, and some just want their way with no compromise.

You agree with them or else suffer the consequences - or make them suffer the consequences because 'they wont' try to get along.'

[harpseal]

Will it take a mushroom cloud over Washington or New York before you finally admit to yourself and those around you that, while the pursuit of peace is a noble cause, peace is not always the way?

Even then most of these so called peace protestors would be on the side of those who destroy America. Absolutely everyone who took part in this travesty over the weekend was at heart a traitor to the United States of America even if they have not yet done an overt act that could be witnessed by two or more people. It is lonmg past the time for us to realize we are in a war and those who are chanting no blood for oil are the one's who are willing to shed every drop of American blood to establish their version of atotalitarian regime here. They not only want your blood and mine they want the blood of every child to be born in the future.

It is about power it always has been. These scum want power and will lie, cheat, kill, maim, torture, and wage war against the USA to get their way

[waterstraat]

How many heroes must give their lives in burning buildings or throw themselves at hijackers and attackers before you say "Enough is enough"?

Are you talking about war with Iraq? or war with Saudi Arabia?

2 different questions.

You make several references to the death and violence that the Saudi's did in America on 9-11, and then you seem to say that making war on Iraq will bring justice for the evil that the Saudis did.

I am confused, I dont understand your connection with the murderous terrorists from Saudi Arabia and making war on Iraq?

Most of the hijackers who caused all those deaths(15 out of 19) were from Saudi Arabia, and none of them were from Iraq. It also has been alleged that those hijackers were financed from Saudi Arabia.

I was not aware of any war protestors who are protesting bringing justice with Saudi Arabia.

[The Duke]

This article would be strengthened if Iraq could be more concretely connected to terrorism - but for me at least that connection has not been made.

However, having seen the anti-war protestors this past week on CSPAN, I find it most embarrassing to be in their company on this issue.

[Hatteras]

The local TV news (Raleigh) caught up with a woman last night who had gone to the rally in Washington. Billed as a former Vietnam protestor, she spent an inordinant amount of time gushing about the crowd and the excitement of being with thousands of people who all felt the way she did. I was kinda waiting for her to bring out a "convention hat" or something with buttons from all her past protest marches.

She didn't discuss her purpose for being there too much. She almost sounded like she goes just for the parade atmosphere. So wrapped up in themselves, they can't see the targets painted on their own foreheads.

[NittanyLion]

How many people have to choose between burning alive or jumping from a hundred-story building after it's been hit for you to change your chant from "Peace now" to "Justice now"? How many children must be killed or orphaned before you want those who ordered the deaths of their parents to be dealt with in the only language they understand? How many heroes must give their lives in burning buildings or throw themselves at hijackers and attackers before you say "Enough is enough"?

The author would do better to demonstrate that war with Iraq will prevent the deaths spoken of in his above passage, as opposed to injecting emotional appeals where fact should be.

[alloysteel]

If we beat up sufficiently on Iraq - the lesson will not be lost on either Saudi Arabia or Iran.

The ruling cliques in both contries are not unaware of the potential of the US to wreak havoc on their rather fragile social structures and economic underpinnings. That we have not done so, is a testament to their native caution in dealing with real economic and military power, and the constraint with which we are exercising that power.

[waterstraat]

The author would do better to demonstrate that war with Iraq will prevent the deaths spoken of in his above passage, as opposed to injecting emotional appeals where fact should be.

Excellent point. I invite all those who want a war with Iraq to explain to the rest of us just how it will prevent the deaths spoken of in the article. I am not a pacifist. I fully support using our armed forces to ensure safety and security in America. Please explain to us.

[Alouette]

She didn't discuss her purpose for being there too much.

If she was as honest as a kid on spring break, she would have said, "I'm here to smoke weed and get laid."

[waterstraat]

If we beat up sufficiently on Iraq - the lesson will not be lost on either Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Huh???

Are you trying to say that we should have instead sufficiently beat up on Australia in response to Pearl Harbor in 1941, to teach a lesson to Japan?