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A Simple Question
Dispatches From The American Front | January 20, 2003 | James Benton

Posted on 01/20/2003 5:42:53 AM PST by Master Zinja

A Simple Question
By James Benton

I have been watching and reading about the peace protests all weekend, and am honestly impressed. No matter what the beliefs of the protesters (and counter-protesters) are, I am glad there are people who stand up for what they believe in. Right or wrong, I am a firm believer in the old saying, "I may not agree with your opinion, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

However, I feel the need to ask a question of the peace protesters, one I wish I could ask at these rallies and get an honest answer in return.

How many will it take?

It's a simple question, and I think I have a right to an answer.

How many people have to choose between burning alive or jumping from a hundred-story building after it's been hit for you to change your chant from "Peace now" to "Justice now"?

How many children must be killed or orphaned before you want those who ordered the deaths of their parents to be dealt with in the only language they understand?

How many heroes must give their lives in burning buildings or throw themselves at hijackers and attackers before you say "Enough is enough"?

Will it take a mushroom cloud over Washington or New York before you finally admit to yourself and those around you that, while the pursuit of peace is a noble cause, peace is not always the way?

Will it take the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents in a chemical or biological attack before you stop wanting to turn the other cheek?

It is said every person has a price. What's yours? A thousand more innocent Americans? Ten thousand? A million? Or will it take one death, the death of someone close to you at the hands of these madmen, for you to see that peace sometimes cannot be achieved in reality without war?

How many deaths will it take before you finally realize without justice - not revenge, but a reckoning - there will be no peace? In the past, many African-Americans marched for civil rights, chanting the same slogan. They threatened disorder without affirmation of their right of equality; in doing so, they also displayed a basic truth of humanity: without justice, there cannot be peace.

The pursuit of peace is the pursuit of all mankind. No sane person lusts for war. However, there comes a time when we have no choice but to say, "Enough."

We have turned the other cheek since 1979, with few exceptions: the bombing of Libya, Gulf War I, and possibly other operations known to only a select, courageous few. We have spent the rest of time talking diplomacy or ignoring the problem. The result was September 11, which has now emboldened those few in the Arab world who wield power and wish to destroy us. They will strike again, whether we turn the other cheek, talk or fight back. Their ability to strike us may very well depend on our response now to those who would supply weapons and funds, like we suspect Saddam is doing, among other things.

We do not want a war. We do not want harm to come to our men and women serving in the armed forces. We do not want innocent civilians in Iraq to perish in defense of a dictator. We would be perfectly happy if Saddam were to step down into exile and disappear, allowing another, friendlier government to come to power in Iraq, one which recognizes the rights of the people it serves. But as time passes and the clock ticks closer to the deadlines, our options become fewer.

Despite what the protesters may think, we are at war now. Thursday will mark the 500th day since the beginning of the war on September 11, 2001. Just because great armies are not clashing or invading other countries - yet - doesn't mean we aren't in the middle of a major conflict.

And the enemy can strike at any time, as we learned during that first, terrible day of the war.

One last question to the protesters: while I heard of rallies for peace around the globe, with large crowds and small gatherings in both great cities and humble towns, there was one city notably absent from the list of where peace rallies were held.

New York.

Maybe those who have served on the front line of this war realize something the rest don't.


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1 posted on 01/20/2003 5:42:53 AM PST by Master Zinja
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2 posted on 01/20/2003 5:45:07 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: Master Zinja
But the protestors blame all of these things upon the US. Therefore, they would turn each of these questions around asking us just how many more innocents must die before we change our policies?

It should be understood that this protestors don't give a fig leaf about any of these issues. They are protesting capitalism. Period. Anyone who doubts this should listen to what they say. There solution to terrorism is a revolution that converts the US to a socialist utopia.
3 posted on 01/20/2003 5:49:56 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Master Zinja
You have to understand, that "free speech" only works in one direction for certain personalities. That is, they are free to speak out on even the most arrant nonsense, but you are not permitted to rebut their statements. Even on a logical basis. Consistency and logic are concepts that are beyond them. Verbal and even physical assaults on those who chose to disagree with their True Belief is their response, and they cannot see the disconnection. One suspects there may be a serious chemical imbalance somewhere in their mental processes.
4 posted on 01/20/2003 5:53:56 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: DugwayDuke
While I would hope some who protested would question their belief in "peace at all costs", you make a very good point as to the thoughts of many in those crowds. I had not thought of it in that way, but you're correct.

Zinja

5 posted on 01/20/2003 5:55:04 AM PST by Master Zinja
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To: DugwayDuke
Yep. It is not "just" Iraq. it is not "just" oil. It is not "just" the economy. These people want to destroy the very foundations America was established on, and oppose anything that would continue to strenghten her.
6 posted on 01/20/2003 5:56:50 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
oppose anything that would continue to strenghten her.

Pres Bush should take this as the extreme compliment then. These protestors, if you asked them, would oppose ANYTHING done or said by GW. Therefor, GW could be said to be the epitome of strengthening America.

There is an answer to why these people didn't oppose X42's bombing in Kosovo. That action did not further any of America's interests, therefor, it was OK. Bringing stability to the Middle East serves America and capitalism, so it must be opposed at all turns.

7 posted on 01/20/2003 6:11:14 AM PST by MrB
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To: Master Zinja
Normally folk from New York would have led the protest. Am I to understand no such rally was held in New York – if so, very interesting.
8 posted on 01/20/2003 6:13:11 AM PST by RAY
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To: Master Zinja
The author is obviously mistaking these scum for human.
9 posted on 01/20/2003 6:24:26 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Master Zinja
Isn't it great that the country we live in gives us the freedom of free speech when it could be our Achilles heel? While thousands of gatherers protest the upcoming war with Iraq, some of us are scratching our heads wondering why we seem to be divided again. I understand the people who want peace, but everyone needs to understand that we are in the position we have to be in. It's not like the U.S. chose for it to be this way. It isn't George W. Bush's fault, and when citizens gather together and protest him and his decisions, some of those who voted for him, isn't that what the enemy wants? For us to be divided? Wasn't that the goal of the terrorist attacks for the country to be crippled & divided? Makes you think. President Bush is our leader, we elected him to take on this position, and no matter what the media says, there is a reason he is president right now. Obviously, enough people thought he was capable of handling the job, so why don't we let him do it?? We don't have to agree with him, but why don't we support him, pray for him, trust his decisions? What more can we really accomplish by standing against him? Together we stand, divided we fall. Just an insight to make you think...
10 posted on 01/20/2003 6:25:46 AM PST by kaydeecasa (A Simple Question Indeed!)
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To: Master Zinja
To some, it will always be America's fault. We did not do enough. We did not pay them enough money. We did not grovel enough.

My seven year old grandson asked me why we all can't get along. I asked him if he knew any bullys at his school. I told him it takes two people wanting to get along, and some just want their way with no compromise.

You agree with them or else suffer the consequences - or make them suffer the consequences because 'they wont' try to get along.'

11 posted on 01/20/2003 6:25:50 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Master Zinja
Will it take a mushroom cloud over Washington or New York before you finally admit to yourself and those around you that, while the pursuit of peace is a noble cause, peace is not always the way?

Even then most of these so called peace protestors would be on the side of those who destroy America. Absolutely everyone who took part in this travesty over the weekend was at heart a traitor to the United States of America even if they have not yet done an overt act that could be witnessed by two or more people. It is lonmg past the time for us to realize we are in a war and those who are chanting no blood for oil are the one's who are willing to shed every drop of American blood to establish their version of atotalitarian regime here. They not only want your blood and mine they want the blood of every child to be born in the future.

It is about power it always has been. These scum want power and will lie, cheat, kill, maim, torture, and wage war against the USA to get their way

12 posted on 01/20/2003 6:26:27 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Master Zinja
How many heroes must give their lives in burning buildings or throw themselves at hijackers and attackers before you say "Enough is enough"?

Are you talking about war with Iraq? or war with Saudi Arabia?

2 different questions.

You make several references to the death and violence that the Saudi's did in America on 9-11, and then you seem to say that making war on Iraq will bring justice for the evil that the Saudis did.

I am confused, I dont understand your connection with the murderous terrorists from Saudi Arabia and making war on Iraq?

Most of the hijackers who caused all those deaths(15 out of 19) were from Saudi Arabia, and none of them were from Iraq. It also has been alleged that those hijackers were financed from Saudi Arabia.

I was not aware of any war protestors who are protesting bringing justice with Saudi Arabia.

13 posted on 01/20/2003 6:35:04 AM PST by waterstraat
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To: Master Zinja
This article would be strengthened if Iraq could be more concretely connected to terrorism - but for me at least that connection has not been made.

However, having seen the anti-war protestors this past week on CSPAN, I find it most embarrassing to be in their company on this issue.

14 posted on 01/20/2003 6:35:42 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Master Zinja
The local TV news (Raleigh) caught up with a woman last night who had gone to the rally in Washington. Billed as a former Vietnam protestor, she spent an inordinant amount of time gushing about the crowd and the excitement of being with thousands of people who all felt the way she did. I was kinda waiting for her to bring out a "convention hat" or something with buttons from all her past protest marches.

She didn't discuss her purpose for being there too much. She almost sounded like she goes just for the parade atmosphere. So wrapped up in themselves, they can't see the targets painted on their own foreheads.

15 posted on 01/20/2003 6:36:17 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Master Zinja
How many people have to choose between burning alive or jumping from a hundred-story building after it's been hit for you to change your chant from "Peace now" to "Justice now"? How many children must be killed or orphaned before you want those who ordered the deaths of their parents to be dealt with in the only language they understand? How many heroes must give their lives in burning buildings or throw themselves at hijackers and attackers before you say "Enough is enough"?

The author would do better to demonstrate that war with Iraq will prevent the deaths spoken of in his above passage, as opposed to injecting emotional appeals where fact should be.

16 posted on 01/20/2003 6:42:14 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: waterstraat
If we beat up sufficiently on Iraq - the lesson will not be lost on either Saudi Arabia or Iran.

The ruling cliques in both contries are not unaware of the potential of the US to wreak havoc on their rather fragile social structures and economic underpinnings. That we have not done so, is a testament to their native caution in dealing with real economic and military power, and the constraint with which we are exercising that power.
17 posted on 01/20/2003 6:44:46 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: NittanyLion
The author would do better to demonstrate that war with Iraq will prevent the deaths spoken of in his above passage, as opposed to injecting emotional appeals where fact should be.

Excellent point. I invite all those who want a war with Iraq to explain to the rest of us just how it will prevent the deaths spoken of in the article. I am not a pacifist. I fully support using our armed forces to ensure safety and security in America. Please explain to us.

18 posted on 01/20/2003 6:47:41 AM PST by waterstraat
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To: Hatteras
She didn't discuss her purpose for being there too much.

If she was as honest as a kid on spring break, she would have said, "I'm here to smoke weed and get laid."

19 posted on 01/20/2003 6:47:56 AM PST by Alouette
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To: alloysteel
If we beat up sufficiently on Iraq - the lesson will not be lost on either Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Huh???

Are you trying to say that we should have instead sufficiently beat up on Australia in response to Pearl Harbor in 1941, to teach a lesson to Japan?

20 posted on 01/20/2003 6:50:20 AM PST by waterstraat
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