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Samantha Smith predicted it - now it's official: 'In Gaia We Trust'
http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/gaia.htm ^ | January 17, 2003 | Thomas Horn

Posted on 01/20/2003 9:37:18 AM PST by Cvengr

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Environmentalists now seek government funding under the guise of 'faith-based' organizations. Interesting twist.
1 posted on 01/20/2003 9:37:18 AM PST by Cvengr
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2 posted on 01/20/2003 9:38:35 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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3 posted on 01/20/2003 9:43:36 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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4 posted on 01/20/2003 10:07:00 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: berned
Paganism works for me. It's the introjection of raghead superstitions from thousands of years ago that passes me by.
6 posted on 01/20/2003 10:42:42 AM PST by gcruse (When faced with two evils, pick the one you haven't tried)
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To: berned
Beware of ANY religion that attempts to deify a FEMALE figure, calling her "Holy Mother" or "Redemptrix" or "Queen of Heaven", etc.

It is the quintessential hallmark of paganism.

In general, I agree with you. But for purely argumentative purposes, I'm going to split hairs for a few moments. It's just as problematic, in light of Genesis 1:27, to limit God to a MALE gender:
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. "
In other words, it takes two - a male and a female - to complete the echoing of the image of God. C.S. Lewis once attributed this sexual differentiation as the intended echoing of masculine/feminine, as opposed to male/female, attributes of God. To limit God to being exclusively male or female would limit our understanding of God to being something less than God.

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7 posted on 01/20/2003 10:44:10 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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I don't know. There are a lot of pagans who are not environmentalists, per se. They support mining in order to get their "power" crystals. They buy endangered plants that are "wildcrafted" to the point of extinction to do spells. Lots of Native Americans still practice their spiritual pursuits which are really much more "gaia-centered" than the Celtic trendies now emerging pointing wands all over the place.

However, I can see where if you are going to give out money based on "faith," since this country has freedom of religion, well, you can see the problem.
8 posted on 01/20/2003 10:46:24 AM PST by thetruckster
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Beware of ANY religion that attempts to deify a FEMALE figure, calling her "Holy Mother" or "Redemptrix" or "Queen of Heaven", etc

Beware of those who seek to start urinating contests with Catholics; by their fruits shalt thou know them.

9 posted on 01/20/2003 10:50:32 AM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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A world that believes this crap will get what it deserves.
10 posted on 01/20/2003 10:53:18 AM PST by babylonian (Posting this line because I can.)
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That's what I get for not being Catholic - I didn't even catch the phrases as being references to Mary. I just figured them as other names for pagan dieties.

And you know, it sounds entirely unhip when you call them "urinating contests"...LOL
11 posted on 01/20/2003 10:55:50 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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by their fruits shalt thou know them.

Ditto.

A link for those who want to know what the Catholic Church actually teaches about The Blessed Virgin Mary.

12 posted on 01/20/2003 10:59:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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yeah, but the people aren't buying it. Just see the box office reciepts for Final Fantasy, The Spirits Within.

The reason I think it flopped was because that was the whole story, new age gaiaism, which, was pretty stupid. Square should have stuck to making video games.

13 posted on 01/20/2003 10:59:44 AM PST by machman
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I know it sounds unhip.

Generally, they ARE unhip.
14 posted on 01/20/2003 11:03:36 AM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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Beware of ANY religion that attempts to deify a FEMALE figure...

I agree. Any religion that would have one worship a creature (a book, let's say) rather than the Creator is on the wrong track.

...calling her "Holy Mother"...

Our Lady the Virgin Mary is the mother of Jesus. Jesus is 100% God. Therefore, Our Lady the Virgin Mary is the Mother of God. QED

... "Redemptrix"...

That's co-redemptrix -- and, no, it does not mean she redeemed anybody by her own actions. It simply means she made our redemption possible (i.e. cooperated in our redemption) by her free consent to the Will of God -- by giving birth to Jesus, the Christ and the one true Redeemer.

...or "Queen of Heaven", etc.

In the Old Testament monarchy the Queen of the Davidic Kingdom was the Queen Mother. The Kings, for reasons of state and human weakness, had many wives, none of whom fittingly could be called Queen. That honor was reserved for the mother of the King, whose authority far surpassed the many "queens" married to the king... The role of the Queen Mother, therefore, is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Mary, just as the role of the Davidic King is a prophetic type of the Kingdom role of Jesus... Aside from the prophetic types present in the Kingdom of Judah, there is also the text of Psalm 45, which when speaking of the Kingdom of God also speaks of its Queen: "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. All thy garments smell of myrrh, and aloes, and cassia, out of the ivory palaces, whereby they have made thee glad. Kings' daughters were among thy honourable women: upon thy right hand did stand the queen in gold of Ophir. Hearken, O daughter, and consider, and incline thine ear; forget also thine own people, and thy father's house; So shall the king greatly desire thy beauty: for he is thy Lord; and worship thou him" (Psalm 45:6-11, KJV). That Kingdom ruled by God is the same as the Kingdom ruled eternally by the Son of David. It is not an earthly kingdom, though it is present on earth in the Church, but a heavenly kingdom, the Kingdom of God. The Queen of that Kingdom is the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of the Lord God Jesus Christ." [Source: EWTN]
Troll defeated. Nice try -- but next time haul out something better than these hoary chestnuts, eh?
15 posted on 01/20/2003 11:13:18 AM PST by B-Chan (Professional illustrator and designer)
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Here is a recent streaming audio interview with Constance Cumby, writer of "Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" After clicking on this link for archives of Marlin Maddoux's radio show, scroll down to 12/26/2002 - Thursday. I really enjoyed this interview.
16 posted on 01/20/2003 11:34:04 AM PST by \/\/ayne
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The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species [man] upon the rest of the natural world." John Shuttleworth, Friends of the Earth manual writer

Written on a typewriter, no doubt.

17 posted on 01/20/2003 11:38:20 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: berned
It is the quintessential hallmark of paganism.

You forgot to mention plural gods and pluralistic names for gods.

"Hear oh Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord."

"For there is one God and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus."

"Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one."

Many today worship pluralsitic gods contrary to God's will.

18 posted on 01/20/2003 12:00:34 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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the earth is disintegrating and that Christianity is mostly to blame."

What are the crosses attracting the beam from the Death Star or something?

;-)

20 posted on 01/20/2003 12:13:34 PM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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