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To: kattracks
The Klan may have toned down its anti-Communism while the Soviets were our allies in WWII, but I'm reasonably sure they had a long history of being against Communism.
7 posted on 01/22/2003 4:26:22 PM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
The Klan may have toned down its anti-Communism while the Soviets were our allies in WWII, but I'm reasonably sure they had a long history of being against Communism.

In my readings, the Klan was not especially anti Commie in the 1920s-50s. Their focus was anti Black, anti-Jew and anti-Catholic. They likely were involved with the pre-Pearl Harbor, America First movement which opposed America involvement in the war, but the American Communiust party also took a lead in that movement until Hitler invaded Russia in June of 41.

29 posted on 01/23/2003 8:44:24 AM PST by Ditto
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What I found incredibly ridiculous was the credibility of the story attached. One of my obsessions is American history, less of what we were taught in our textbooks and more of what really happens behind the scenes. Namely historically documented secretive and/or selective elite societies and fraternities, etc. Lets look at this dissect this sophomoric and factually irrelavent article.
“When Byrd said he joined the Klan, it couldn’t have been famous for being anti-Communist, since in 1943 the Soviet Union was our crucial ally in World War II,” said our source, who served in Air Force, then known as the Army Air Corps,

Uhhhh...........Karl Mark and Friedrich Engals, were spouting communist rhetoric that rocked eastern Europe immediately following the conclusion of WWI. by the late 20’s to early 30’s communism (or some incarnation or variation) was rampant and at the doorstep of westrern Europe.

Their “source”, uhhh........”some guy” that was in the Air Force? Excellent credentials for your “expert.” Hey my Grandfather was in the Army Air Corps too. When he was alive I don’ty think I ever heard him testify that Communism was a “good” thing just because we allied with Russia.

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In fact, anti-communism didn’t emerge as a genuine force in American politics until 1947, with the outbreak of the Cold War - four years after Byrd says he left the Klan. Two weeks ago the West Virginia Democrat’s press secretary Tom Gavin said his boss had belonged to the Klan for only “a number of months.” Further puncturing Sen. Byrd’s KKK alibi, the World War II vet recalled, “There would have been no reason for any patriotic American to have been anti-Communist in 1943 - because we were doing everything we could to help the Reds beat Hitler on the Eastern Front.” In fact, anti-communism didn’t emerge as a genuine force in American politics until 1947, with the outbreak of the Cold War - four years after Byrd says he left the Klan. Two weeks ago the West Virginia Democrat’s press secretary Tom Gavin said his boss had belonged to the Klan for only “a number of months.”

Let me assure you that regardless of when our own national media propaganda began trying to scare your average joe about communism, that era of the klan was way ahead of the curve. Although being an organization with ideals of American national sovereignty and superiority, they closely watched what was happening with other racially based belief systems developing in Europe, specifically the British Union who supported fascism, and in Germanic societies, the Thule Society, Black Sun Society, and eventually, the NSDAP. The Klan was worried about communism early on, as were the Germans. Also don’t forget that at the time of the outbreak of the war probably 60% of the caucasian population of this country were of German decsent, and many supported the German- American Bund which was also WELL aware of the perilous situation of the “old country”.

Why can’t the guy just admit he was in the Klan and say “Hey it was a different time”. Did you know that we had AT LEAST one president who was a Klansman. Did you know that almost every president was a Mason. Hell we even had a president that saw Bigfoot. Societies change and morph. Enough said. But come on, nobody joins the Klan just because it is anti-communist. It was only anti communist because communism directly threatened it’s primary objective. “Homogenous society comprised of people of only Western European decsent who are Christian but NOT Catholic, living under the framework of the original Constitution as interpreted by the persons who drafted the Confederate Constitution”. Now isn’t that simple?


33 posted on 03/23/2008 9:41:33 PM PDT by Trey73
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