[Blood of Tyrants]

What is the failure rate of the AA students vs. the students who had to get in on their merits?

[Myrddin]

What is the failure rate of the AA students vs. the students who had to get in on their merits?

The record at UCSD was 83% failure for the 5% that were admitted using lowered AA standards.

[Teacher317]

Fail? What's that? Virtually nobody fails at IU Law School. The grade curve for every class is mandated. Generally, it is somewhere around 15% A, 45% A- to B, 35% B- to C+, and 5% C and below, and the overall class GPA must also be between 2.9 and 3.05 (on a 4.0 scale). Students must maintain a C+ average... so unless you're in the bottom 5% of all of your classes, you don't get dumped for grades.

The dropout rate, however, is a different story. I don't know what it is for IU Law, but IIRC, somewhere (the Michigan Law School case?) they cited that an AA student was 80% more likely to drop out than a non-AA student.

The author mentions some statistical compilings he was doing for the Indiana Policy folk... maybe we can find that somewhere?

[Timocrat]

What is the failure rate of the AA students vs. the students who had to get in on their merits?

Unfortunately affirmative action does not stop at the admissions office. A prominent attorney in Chicago of my acquaintance, an adjunct Prof at Northwestern U, resigned as a teacher because he was pressured into passing minorities who were not up to snuff. I guess it's only when you get to a completely merit based exam like the bar exam that all that stops.

Comparing admission rates with rates of passing the bar would be a really interesting exercise, thus combining law school drop out rates with bar failure rates.

One bright spot in all this is that by admitting unqualified candidates to law schools you effectively reduce the number of lawyers who eventually qualify to leech on the rest of society.