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Resident kills 2 intruders - Police: "In Texas, we maximize the idea of your home is your castle"
The Dallas Morning News ^ | January 24, 2003 | By TANYA EISERER and JENNIFER EMILY / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 01/23/2003 8:59:18 PM PST by MeekOneGOP


Resident kills 2 intruders

Man probably won't face charges in home shootout

01/24/2003

By TANYA EISERER and JENNIFER EMILY / The Dallas Morning News

A Far North Dallas man who shot and killed two would-be burglars Thursday morning probably will not face charges, according to Dallas police and legal experts.

About 9 a.m. Thursday, the 29-year-old man was at home with his wife and three young children when a man knocked on the side door and asked for someone the resident did not know, police said.

One or both suspects then forced their way into the apartment, shooting the resident once in the arm, police said. The resident retreated to his bedroom, retrieved a gun, and a shootout ensued in the living room on Knoll Trail Drive near the Dallas North Tollway, police said.

"The preliminary investigation has determined that the homeowner apparently was justified in using deadly force in shooting the two intruders," said Sgt. Ken Sprecher, a homicide unit supervisor. "The investigation will continue, and the cases will be referred to the grand jury."

Legal experts said that because the resident returned fire to protect life and property, he probably won't face criminal charges.


Sgt. Ken Sprecher discusses the shootings Thursday until investigators arrived to collect evidence. Police said their first priority is to gather evidence before disturbing the crime scene.
(JOHN F. RHODES / DMN)

"In Texas, we maximize the idea of your home is your castle, and if intruders break in, they do so at their own peril," said Jerry Dowling, a criminal law professor at Sam Houston State University.

Police did not release the name of the resident Thursday. They said the intruders who were killed had not been identified.

Dallas County First Assistant District Attorney Mike Carnes said the county handles such incidents on a case-by-case basis.

Other states allow homeowners to use deadly force as a last resort - "when your back is to the wall," Mr. Dowling said.

A law professor for more than 30 years, Mr. Dowling said he never heard of district attorneys prosecuting a homeowner for defending property inside a residence.

Most often, he said, the district attorney will refer the cases to grand juries to serve as the "conscience of the community."

Grand juries typically decline to indict the homeowners, he said.

Dallas police say both intruders were shot inside the apartment Thursday. The resident, who is a business owner, was treated at Parkland Memorial Hospital and released.

One man was killed inside the residence, and the second man was found dead near a hedge outside the Kensington Square complex.


An agent photographs a broken glass door at the Far North Dallas apartment where two men were killed early Thursday.
(JOHN F. RHODES / DMN)

The dead man outside was wearing a red vest, jeans and black boots and had a latex glove on one hand. A gun was near his body, which remained uncovered for at least an hour until the medical examiner and crime scene investigators could arrive and collect evidence. Dallas police said that their first priority is to gather evidence before disturbing the crime scene and that it's rare for a body to be in public view.

Witnesses reported seeing a third man leaving in a large dark four-door vehicle, possibly a Cadillac.

The resident and his wife told authorities Thursday afternoon that they did not know the intruders, Sgt. Sprecher said.

Mike Tennis, 24, who was in the next-door condominium when the shooting occurred, said he was rattled by the gunbattle at what he thought was a secure community in a relatively safe neighborhood.

"They said it was a break-in," Mr. Tennis said. "I'm planning to move to another section of the complex. I would never have moved here if I thought this could happen. It's a beautiful area. It just proves this can happen anywhere."

Justifiable homicides aren't included in the year-end tallies that law enforcement agencies report to the state and FBI, so data aren't readily available, Mr. Dowling said. Most examples are anecdotal. Dallas police said they don't track such data.

Homeowners cleared of criminal wrongdoing by a grand jury could face lawsuits, Mr. Dowling said.

"The standard in criminal law is what the individual perceives," he said. "But the civil standard is more what the reasonable person would do. A reasonable person may act a bit differently than what the individual would have done."

Staff writer Jason Trahan contributed to this report.

E-mail teiserer@dallasnews.com or jemily@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/localnews/stories/012403dnmetshooting.646c6.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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1 posted on 01/23/2003 8:59:18 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Squantos; GeronL; Billie; Slyfox; San Jacinto; SpookBrat; FITZ; COB1; DainBramage; Dallas; ...
Resident kills 2 intruders - Police: "In Texas,
we maximize the idea of your home is your castle"



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Texas ping list!. . .don't be shy.
No, you don't HAVE to be a Texan to get on this list!


2 posted on 01/23/2003 9:01:54 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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To: David Hunter
PING!
3 posted on 01/23/2003 9:03:23 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: *bang_list
bang
4 posted on 01/23/2003 9:05:12 PM PST by Mulder (Guns and chicks rule)
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To: MeeknMing
"...Mike Tennis, 24, who was in the next-door condominium when the shooting occurred, said he was rattled by the gunbattle at what he thought was a secure community in a relatively safe neighborhood.

"They said it was a break-in," Mr. Tennis said. "I'm planning to move to another section of the complex. I would never have moved here if I thought this could happen..."

What a fool...

This area is safer than ever now.

5 posted on 01/23/2003 9:05:37 PM PST by DWSUWF
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To: MeeknMing
Just one more reason why I live in Texas instead of an uncivilized place like England, where they coddle the criminals and send people to prison for defending themselves.
6 posted on 01/23/2003 9:05:57 PM PST by HHFi
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To: MeeknMing
"I'm planning to move to another section of the complex. I would never have moved here if I thought this could happen."

You would have never moved to a place where two criminals could be killed by a neighbor, without harm to others?

7 posted on 01/23/2003 9:05:59 PM PST by coloradan
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To: DWSUWF
Not only is he a fool but he is also a big woos (sp?)
8 posted on 01/23/2003 9:08:46 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: MeeknMing
"The standard in criminal law is what the individual perceives," he said. "But the civil standard is more what the reasonable person would do. A reasonable person may act a bit differently than what the individual would have done."

How many people are going to behave in what this man thinks is a 'reasonable' fashion when faced with the shock of assailants breaking into their home? Most people are going to panic and they will likely use more force than is necessary to subdue the intruders. I don't see that as the homeowner's fault, as it's a mental state brought upon by the presence of the intruders, thus you induce such a state at your own peril.
9 posted on 01/23/2003 9:08:47 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: DWSUWF; coloradan
Re #5 & #7: Yeah, I thought that was a pretty silly/foolish thing that Mr. Tennis said too !
10 posted on 01/23/2003 9:09:25 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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To: coloradan
I think his point was that the complex does not have a reputation for violent crime and that is why he lives there. The news people always find somebody who makes a similar statement whenever anything violent happens in North Dallas. It's like the woman in a muumuu they interview during a tornado.
11 posted on 01/23/2003 9:09:56 PM PST by nhoward14 (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' while you look for a rock.)
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To: MeeknMing
"In Texas.....if intruder's break in, they do so at their own peril"

Should there be any other way?

12 posted on 01/23/2003 9:11:14 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: HHFi
Just one more reason why I live in Texas instead of an uncivilized place like England, where they coddle the criminals and send people to prison for defending themselves.

Maybe so, but the article has a very anti-gun, anti-self-defense slant. They make it seem like this guy is barely going to escape prosecution, and will be taken to the cleaners in a civil suit.

13 posted on 01/23/2003 9:11:30 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Texas_Jarhead
It's 'wuss'. Part wimp and part puss.

Semper Fi.

L

14 posted on 01/23/2003 9:11:48 PM PST by Lurker (The definition of insanity is repeating the same action and expecting different outcome.)
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To: Dimensio
Yep. I don't think those intruders families will get any sympathy from the court or the jurors if they take this homeowner to court...
15 posted on 01/23/2003 9:12:09 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (9 out of 10 Republicans agree: Bush IS a Genius !!)
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To: DWSUWF
Of course the anti-gun people see two dead people and will totally ignore the lives saved. Since the burglars were armed, they might have killed the family and maybe others at a later robbery.
16 posted on 01/23/2003 9:13:45 PM PST by nhoward14 (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' while you look for a rock.)
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To: MeeknMing
SWEET!
17 posted on 01/23/2003 9:15:46 PM PST by Bullish
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To: nhoward14
It's like the woman in a muumuu they interview during a tornado.

"IT WAS PANDELERIUM !! ...."

Seriously though, the robbers got exactly what they deserved.

18 posted on 01/23/2003 9:20:01 PM PST by Centurion2000 (The meek shall inherit the Earth. The stars belong to the bold.)
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To: MeeknMing
I personally favour allowing someone being sued for such an asinine charge to kill the plaintiffs and argue self-defense against theft.
19 posted on 01/23/2003 9:20:49 PM PST by Dimensio
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To: MeeknMing
"In Texas, we maximize the idea of your home is your castle, and if intruders break in, they do so at their own peril"

Excellent! Another reason I'm glad to live in Texas.

20 posted on 01/23/2003 9:23:55 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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