[Stavka2]

Point is, there were plenty of Orthodox Christians and priests/monks/nuns who were sent to those camps by persons of Jewish nationality, who were running the show for Lenin and in the 30's for Stalin. The revolution they helped start and run simply ate it's own, just like the French Revolution did. You have no problem condemning Russsians or others for their part in the Communist holocust, but God forbid, someone points out that Jews were equally guilty in it as were Russians....then you tap dance and become extremely PC.

Jewish leaders have as much blame (and in the 20's it was almost all their blame...that's reality....Trotsky ran quite a bit of the show and almost got a hold of the Soviet Union in whole....and he was master of the terror) as Russian or Ukrainian leaders. So stop trying to turn the blame over only on Russians while excusing Jews from their share.

What pisses me off about all this and so many Jews suffer from this schlorosiss is that they can't seperate the Jewish individuals from the mass. If a Jew is guilty of something, then by this thinking, all Jews are guilty, so we had best find a way to squirm the guilt off of the individual, least all Jews get tarred. In it's own stupidity, this mindset only propogates a "collective" guilt reality. Think on it.

[Nachum]

Look, I think we are at cross purposes here. The schlorrosis you describe can be applied to all of here who defend our own particular point of view. Whether it is Catholic, Jewish, Russian Orthodox, or other. Everyone dances that particular jig.

We are going around in circles here and repeating the same arguments. You obviously defend Solzhenitsyn's observation about Jews, and I think it was a gratuitus shot. If that is being hypersensitive, I plead guilty. We will have to agree to disagree on this.