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Dems plan to undermine America to beat Bush
CapitolHillBlue ^ | January 6, 2003 | By DOUG THOMPSON

Posted on 01/27/2003 11:07:57 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Democrats plan to undermine public confidence in President George W. Bush by challenging his credibility and raising doubts about America, sources within the party tell Capitol Hill Blue.

A multi-pronged attack against Republicans and the President will focus not only on economic issues, but question American values, raise doubts about how this country is viewed by other nations and question the patriotism of Bush and his party.

The extensive campaign, developed by senior Democratic consultants and party leaders, was launched last week with attacks on the Bush economic plan by Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Richard Gephardt.

In coming weeks, Democratic elected officials will question the President’s intentions on the pending war with Iraq. Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism. “The talking points were developed before the end of last year and sent out to operatives and friendly media,” one Democratic consultant confided. “No Democratic member of Congress will question the President’s patriotism openly but we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts.”

Capitol Hill Blue obtained a copy of the talking points when the Democratic National Committee sent them to a news outlet recently acquired by CHB’s parent company. The talking points outline a strategy to raise public doubts of the President’s real intentions, including: --Saying the war is about oil and will be fought to benefit oil companies that have long supported Bush and the Republican party;

--Claiming the Bush administration has “manufactured” evidence against Saddam Hussein and used that evidence to encourage Britain and other allies to join the American fight against Iraq;

--Suggesting a wartime economy is the only way the administration can revive the country’s lagging economic situation.

“It is clear that the current approval ratings of the administration are tied directly to strong American feelings toward traditional values,” the talking points say. “To counter this, doubt must be raised as to America’s true position within the world community and the true intent of the Bush administration in waging war.”

Some Democrats admit privately they are uneasy with the party strategy to undermine American values in an attempt to get Bush.

“My boss doesn’t want anything to do with it,” one senior Senate aide told Capitol Hill Blue on Monday. “You don’t undermine this country to win elections.” Others, however, are willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control. “The real war isn’t in Iraq,” one Democratic consultant said. “It’s right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004.”

Among the other points Democrats hope to make in the coming weeks:

--Both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are controlled by oil and defense industry special interest groups.

--The war on terrorism is a failure because Osama bin Laden is still at large.

--America is unprepared for another terrorist attack because of White House preoccupation with Iraq. --War will increase the country’s economic woes. --Bush will be forced to raise taxes to finance the war.

“It’s time to take the battle to the people and make them understand just how dangerous George W. Bush’s policies are to the future of America,” the talking points conclude.

Democratic sources say the talking points were developed by Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe, former Clinton campaign strategist James Carville, Senate Majority Leader Daschle and former House Democratic Leader Gephardt.

“This is a classic, Jim Carville, scorched earth campaign,” crows one DNC staffer. “Take no prisoners. That’s how you win elections.” Democratic party spokesmen would not return phone calls seeking comment on this report.

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1 posted on 01/27/2003 11:07:57 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Howlin
FYI
2 posted on 01/27/2003 11:08:33 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ladyinred; Angel; ..
This may be 2 weeks old, but it was right on the money.
3 posted on 01/27/2003 11:10:47 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
--Claiming the Bush administration has “manufactured” evidence against Saddam Hussein and used that evidence to encourage Britain and other allies to join the American fight against Iraq;

“manufactured” ????

It's time to squash the Party of Clinton!!!

4 posted on 01/27/2003 11:20:22 PM PST by Mo1 (I Hate The Party of Bill Clinton)
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To: JohnHuang2
Ya got THAT right. That's all I heard on the radio today, one after another, talking points....yakkity yak.

Grrrrrrr
5 posted on 01/27/2003 11:20:42 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Only YOU can free Snuggles $5 a month is all it takes)
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To: JohnHuang2
Perhaps letters need to be sent to local newspapers to counter op-ed spin when we see it.
6 posted on 01/27/2003 11:23:45 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: JohnHuang2
The technique worked perfectly against Bush 41. Even some Conservatives fell for it.
7 posted on 01/27/2003 11:24:15 PM PST by Consort (Was Jimer.)
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To: Mo1
I pray it blows up in their face big time.

Evil people doing evil things.

Fox, Rush and everyone else needs to bring the Democrats "plan" out front and center. They should be carried out on a rail by our fellow citizens...
8 posted on 01/27/2003 11:26:33 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Mo1
It's time to squash the Party of Clinton!!! 4 posted on 01/27/2003 11:20 PM PST by Mo1 (I Hate The

DITTO !!

9 posted on 01/27/2003 11:27:16 PM PST by timestax
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To: DB
Well just in case the media doesn't pick up on this I sent this article to everyone on my email list and said to pass it on
10 posted on 01/27/2003 11:29:02 PM PST by Mo1 (I Hate The Party of Bill Clinton)
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To: JohnHuang2

11 posted on 01/27/2003 11:30:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY (((Live Free or Die!)))
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To: JohnHuang2
I find this really frightening that half our government is thinking this way! It's interesting that Bush is having lunch with the 'liberal' newsmen tomorrow. - Today now!!
12 posted on 01/27/2003 11:32:57 PM PST by potlatch (The Clinton Legacy; SEX BETWEEN THE BUSHES)
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To: JohnHuang2
You don’t undermine this country to win elections

Well, he'll never make it as a democrat

13 posted on 01/27/2003 11:33:40 PM PST by paul51
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To: JohnHuang2
If the Rats knew for sure that the only way they could regain the WH in '04 and '08 would be if we suffered millions dead in bio-terror attacks and endured a subsequent economic collapse that made the Great Depression look like minor economic downturn, they'd root for it like hell. ....And I'm dead serious. I know a couple of the vermin personally.
14 posted on 01/27/2003 11:35:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: JohnHuang2
“The real war isn’t in Iraq,” one Democratic consultant said. “It’s right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004.”

Right from the Satanic Workers Party of America.

Need more proof the Democratic Party cares not one wit about America?
15 posted on 01/27/2003 11:35:50 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: JohnHuang2
I am do tired of hearing "it is about the OIL" argument. When people use this they are being parrots and cannot think for themselves. They are being controlled by the Democratic party. They have no minds of their own.
16 posted on 01/27/2003 11:35:58 PM PST by zeaal
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To: JohnHuang2
Wow, were really scared of the SCARY democrats! NOT!

Some idiots don't know when to lay low.

Bring it on, idiots!

17 posted on 01/27/2003 11:41:36 PM PST by Bullish
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To: JohnHuang2
Interesting how the democrats never opposed any of the Clinton wars and bombing Iraq was fine if it was to keep Monica's testimony off the front pages.
18 posted on 01/27/2003 11:51:58 PM PST by FITZ
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To: JohnHuang2; Miss Marple; Molly Pitcher; PhiKapMom; dittomom
Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism. “The talking points were developed before the end of last year and sent out to operatives and friendly media,” one Democratic consultant confided. “No Democratic member of Congress will question the President’s patriotism openly but we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts.”

But the media are impartial and show no bias. They tell us so. /major sarcasm

These people are pure EVIL. They would destroy their own country, see their own friends and family slaughtered, do anything to gain power and control.

God help us all!

19 posted on 01/28/2003 12:08:37 AM PST by kayak (God bless President Bush, God bless our military, and God bless America!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Sounds like the rat plan of the last few years at the du!
20 posted on 01/28/2003 12:10:06 AM PST by TLBSHOW (Slamming the liberal bias media but GOOD!)
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To: JohnHuang2
You know, when most people run a knife plade into their body (by accident, of course) they have the good sense to pull it back out and seek first aid.

The Dummycraps seem determined to push and twist the damn thing till it comes out the other side or just gets lost under the skin!

Absolute Brain surgeons!

21 posted on 01/28/2003 12:15:01 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: Neets; Bitwhacker; MozartLover; lysie; kassie; jtill; Mr. Mulliner; JRandomFreeper; ...
we will use the media and other surrogates to raise doubts

Main Entry: sur·ro·gate
... 1 a : one appointed to act in place of another : DEPUTY b : a local judicial officer in some states (as New York) who has jurisdiction over the probate of wills, the settlement of estates, and the appointment and supervision of guardians
... 2 : one that serves as a substitute

So now they even openly admit that the media carries their water for them. What a disgusting distortion of the purpose and intent of the press.

22 posted on 01/28/2003 12:16:17 AM PST by kayak (God bless President Bush, God bless our military, and God bless America!)
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To: Howlin; Wphile; Brad's Gramma; homeschool mama; ohioWfan; DrDeb; MJY1288
ping
23 posted on 01/28/2003 12:20:03 AM PST by kayak (God bless President Bush, God bless our military, and God bless America!)
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To: JohnHuang2
>>Both President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are controlled by oil and defense industry special interest groups.

Well I should hope they were at least FRIENDLY with them. If it were Slick, Gore, or (God forbid) Queef Hitlery, they'd be playing Dummycrap class warfare-demonization games with the very industries we desperately need to keep strong in this world of Islamic nutcases plotting to destroy us all!

24 posted on 01/28/2003 12:20:47 AM PST by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: kayak
... willing to try anything to put the White House and Congress back under Democratic control. “The real war isn’t in Iraq,” one Democratic consultant said. “It’s right here at home, at the ballot box in 2004.” This needs to be the wake up call to our fellow Americans. The criminal enterprise democrat party IS planning on sacrificing American lives for party empowerment. Outlandish you say? Well, what is it when a political party seeks to foment sedition and block the efforts of leadership to make war on our proven enemies? Why it's SEDITION, that's what! And when it causes the death of our fellow Americans, it's treason in my book.

sedition \si-di-shen\ n : the causing of discontent, insurrection, or resistance against a government
seditious \-shes\ adj (C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C) 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

treason \trez-en\ n : the offense of attempting to overthrow the government of one's country or of assisting its enemies in war treasonable \-en-e-bel\ adj treasonous \-en-es\ adj (C) 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary (C) 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

Now you can understand why several democrats have repeated the mantra of late that rhetoric shouldn't be bandied about accusing folks of not being patriotic just because they 'speak out'. The bastards are triangulating US at every turn on the tube, and they're plotting treason at the same time they're spewing their seditious bilge spittle.

25 posted on 01/28/2003 12:37:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: JohnHuang2
This has Carville and Shrum(?) written all over it!!
26 posted on 01/28/2003 12:38:01 AM PST by CyberAnt ( Syracuse where are you?)
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To: JohnHuang2
***In 1991, Carville - who had already become prominent in political circles - drew national attention when he managed Senator Harris Wofford from 40 points behind in the polls to an upset landslide over former Pennsylvania Governor and U.S. Attorney General Richard Thornburgh. With the startling and unpredictable win, Carville had exposed the political vulnerability of George Bush, who had been enjoying 91% approval ratings during the Gulf War.

Having wounded the sitting President in 1991, Carville finished the job the following year, when he guided William Jefferson Clinton to the Presidency in 1992. Carville was honored as Campaign Manager of the Year by the American Association of Political Consultants for his leadership of Clinton's fearsome and intense "War Room" at campaign headquarters in Little Rock. Carville was also the focus, along with George Stephanopoulos, of the feature-length Academy Award nominated documentary The War Room.

After the Clinton victory, Carville began to focus on foreign consulting. Since that time, Carville's political clients have included the following: Greek Prime Minister Constantine Mitsotakis; Brazilian President Fernando Enrique Cardoso; Honduran Prime Minister Carlos Flores; President Jamil Mahuad of Ecuador; the Liberal Party of Canada; British Prime Minister Tony Blair; Sao Paulo Mayor Celso Pitta; Argentine Economic Minister Domingo Carvallo; Francis Labastida of Mexico; Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago Basdeo Panday; and President Hipolito La of the Dominican Republic. In 1999, Carville led Ehud Barak to Victory in his campaign to become Prime Minister of Israel.

James Carville is also an author, speaker, restaurateur, and talk show host. With his wife Mary Matalin, who is currently Assistant to President Bush and Counselor to Vice-President Cheney, Carville co-wrote All's Fair: Love, War, and Running for President, which spent eight weeks on The New York Times bestseller list. Carville's next books (We're Right, They're Wrong: A Handbook for Spirited Progressives; And the Horse He Rode In On: The People vs. Kenneth Starr; Stickin') earned long-running places on that prestigious list as well. Suck Up, Buck Up…and Come Back When You Foul Up, Carville's latest literary effort, co-written with Paul Begala, details strategies for fighting and winning in business, politics, and life. Begala and Carville can also be seen co-hosting CNN'S Crossfire. *** Speaking Fee - $20,000 - 30, 000

27 posted on 01/28/2003 1:39:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JohnHuang2
Another honorable election cycle strategy from the democrats.
28 posted on 01/28/2003 1:42:22 AM PST by bayareablues
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To: MHGinTN
Please pardon me for this PING thing!
29 posted on 01/28/2003 2:50:36 AM PST by Radix (There are just enough hours in the day to get it all down at once!)
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To: Diver Dave
Re: #6 -- good idea, friend.
30 posted on 01/28/2003 4:05:41 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: potlatch
It's interesting that Bush is having lunch with the 'liberal' newsmen tomorrow. - Today now!!

Bump!

31 posted on 01/28/2003 4:06:16 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Mr. Mojo
If the Rats knew for sure that the only way they could regain the WH in '04 and '08 would be if we suffered millions dead in bio-terror attacks and endured a subsequent economic collapse that made the Great Depression look like minor economic downturn, they'd root for it like hell. ....

Bears repeating...

32 posted on 01/28/2003 4:07:39 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: FITZ
Re: #18 -- exactly. Daschle is the perfect example of that -- the quintessential hypocrite.
33 posted on 01/28/2003 4:08:44 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: kayak
Re: #19 -- you know 'em well, my friend.
34 posted on 01/28/2003 4:09:35 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: CyberAnt
This has Carville and Shrum(?) written all over it!!

Bingo

35 posted on 01/28/2003 4:11:25 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2; Mr. Mojo
Yep....it's all about them....America be damned.
36 posted on 01/28/2003 4:15:01 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: JohnHuang2
I have been watching the RAT troops in action in recent days very carefully, and there is no doubt whatsoever that they are adhering to these Carville talking points assiduously.

Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country---and obviously this is also the time for all evil men and women to come to the aid of Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Yassir Arafat, Bill Clinton and James Carville. May they burn in hell for joining in the attempt to destroy America simply to score cheap political points.

We are staring at a vivid demonstration of the truth that the 'leadership' of the Party of the Ass is interested in one thing, and one thing only---and that is power.

God have mercy on their souls.

37 posted on 01/28/2003 4:21:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance (abort NARAL!)
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To: EternalVigilance
We are staring at a vivid demonstration of the truth that the 'leadership' of the Party of the Ass is interested in one thing, and one thing only---and that is power.

Well said, friend.

38 posted on 01/28/2003 4:32:20 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
This is good. Their increasing desperation has made them drop the self righteous mask they have been wearing.

The more of this they do the more clearly everyone will see them for what they truly are.

TRAITORS

Regards,

39 posted on 01/28/2003 4:34:46 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (Time for Carville to take up residence in that Leper colony they named for him in La.)
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To: JohnHuang2
the party strategy to undermine American values

Relaese the whole damn memo!

I'd love to see five minutes of the SOTU speach dedicated to reading it to the nation.

40 posted on 01/28/2003 4:36:26 AM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Couldn't agree with you more. Bush is giving them the very rope by which to hang themselves.
41 posted on 01/28/2003 4:36:26 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
***Another Wellstone Moment: Damocrats Attack EVERYTHING On The Day The World Awaited Blix***

Posted on 01/27/2003 1:55 PM EST by The Wizard

On a day that the world has waited for to find out if WAR is coming, Dasshole and Peloise and the "usual Supects" in the democrat party are having a diresive, scathing, attacking, pep rally talking about their sad and doomed image of the world, the Presidemt, (who truly deserves better as he worries about a war, you know: life and death???) and how great a failure he is and how poor he's doing, and how..............

They can't accept they are out of power on even one day....they couldn't at Wellstone's "rally" and they still can't

These people are the enemy, they are not Americans.....

And people are starting to see it...

42 posted on 01/28/2003 4:40:34 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: potlatch

Danny Boy apparently is not coming. ha ha

Hopefully, he will show them enough to make them mess their pants, time will tell.
43 posted on 01/28/2003 4:42:06 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: JohnHuang2
Writers and broadcasters friendly to the Democratic cause have already been provided talking points suggesting the war is about oil, not terrorism.

If this war was really about oil we could wrap it up by noon tomorrow. The only thing I fear here is the media complicity and the laziness of mainstream America. They'll believe this crap.

44 posted on 01/28/2003 4:42:40 AM PST by Aeronaut (Your message imprinted here)
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To: JohnHuang2
--The war on terrorism is a failure because Osama bin Laden is still at large.

Uhh, Dems, don't we need to give some UN inspectors some extraordinary amounts of time to find some evidence of this? Even just a shred? Oh, that's right, rules don't apply when your self-interests are at issue.

45 posted on 01/28/2003 4:59:01 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: MHGinTN
And if more proof is needed of their double-mindedness, I thought I would link THIS thread here.
46 posted on 01/28/2003 5:01:33 AM PST by anniegetyourgun (Where is MurryMom these days? Like those in her party, she has no principles.)
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To: JohnHuang2
More good stuff from the Party that gave you 9/11- The Dim-ocrats!
47 posted on 01/28/2003 5:03:05 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Teacher317
The DEMS sure do have a tin ear.....

Today this article will get read over Talk radio and picked up by Fox no doubt.........and what is happening in Spin Boldack Afghanistan the biggest battle in a year. Imagine how people will react to this dirty trick....when they hear our soldiers are in a nasty firefight and maybe some will die.

Dumb political move.......dems keep it up!

48 posted on 01/28/2003 5:53:38 AM PST by Dog (Now where did I put that funny tag line...)
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49 posted on 01/28/2003 6:03:54 AM PST by Mia T
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To: kayak
You said it well. It's just not possible for the media or the dems to sink any lower. May these tactics backfire on them bigtime.
50 posted on 01/28/2003 6:28:49 AM PST by Lorena
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