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Student Convicted of Killing Counselor
Associated Press ^
| Jan. 29, 2003
| ADAM GORLICK
Posted on 01/29/2003 2:58:06 PM PST by Dubya
SPRINGFIELD, Mass. - An 18-year-old student was convicted of murder Wednesday for plunging his knife into the heart of a high school counselor who had told him to remove the hood of his sweat shirt.
Corey Ramos received an automatic life sentence with the possibility of parole after 15 years.
Ramos stabbed Theodore Brown eight times during a 2001 classroom brawl that erupted after the counselor repeatedly told the student to follow school rules by removing his hood. Brown, a Pentecostal minister who had worked in public schools since 1996, managed to walk to the school nurse's office but died minutes later.
Defense attorney Alan Black argued that Brown provoked the fight by hounding Ramos over the hood and putting his hand on the teenager's shoulder, something Ramos told him not to do.
However, Judge Thomas Curley Jr. told Black he could not argue the teen stabbed Brown in self defense because there was not enough evidence to support that theory. And Sarah McMullen, an ecology teacher who saw the fight in her classroom, testified that Ramos hit Brown first.
The jury also found Ramos guilty of possession of a dangerous weapon and carrying a dangerous weapon.
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posted on
01/29/2003 2:58:06 PM PST
by
Dubya
To: Dubya
Corey Ramos received an automatic life sentence with the possibility of parole after 15 years.Oh, well, as long as it is nothing permanet ...
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posted on
01/29/2003 2:59:59 PM PST
by
pikachu
To: Dubya
How could he get parole after 15 years for such a clear case of murder?
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:00:09 PM PST
by
expatpat
To: Dubya
Why do so many lowlifes insist on wearing hoods and keeping them up over their heads even in warm weather? Is it a criminal habit to make them harder to identify?
To: expatpat
How could he get parole after 15 years for such a clear case of murder? Because it wasn't premeditated?
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:02:48 PM PST
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: Dubya
Knife Control is the solution! Fingerprint knives, waiting periods. Chuckle Shoe-Mir, where are you?
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:05:53 PM PST
by
OneLoyalAmerican
( Iraq has not accounted for 20,000,000 envelopes worth of weaponized anthrax.)
To: Dubya
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:07:34 PM PST
by
moyden
To: Dubya
Corey I know you murdered the guy and you know you murdered the guy but I could have gotten you two days in jail with parole after 2 hours and then you could have been on the streets again. By the way do you vote Democrat?
To: Dubya
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:09:09 PM PST
by
moyden
To: Dubya
Defense attorney Alan Black argued that Brown provoked the fight by hounding Ramos over the hood and putting his hand on the teenager's shoulder, something Ramos told him not to do.What an absolutely pathetic argument to use as an excuse to justify killing a man. Perhaps the judge should have thrown this defense attorney in prison along with his lowlife murderer client.
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:09:37 PM PST
by
judgeandjury
(The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
To: expatpat
The same way so many other murderers do in this country....
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:11:07 PM PST
by
tracer
To: aristeides
Our school does not allow hats, hoods, or do-rags. Students comply if you keep after them. Hoods are worn to cover CD players which are also not allowed at school. It is a never ending battle, however, if a school has such a minor policy it works in containing other juvenile behavior.
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:11:10 PM PST
by
jonsie
To: moyden
In regard to the photo in your post #7, at least this slimeball murderer wasn't wearing his hood in court.
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:12:31 PM PST
by
judgeandjury
(The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.)
To: facedown
I guess that must be the reason.
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:15:28 PM PST
by
expatpat
To: pikachu
".... an automatic life sentence with the possibility of parole after 15 years ...."
I always laugh at that hypocrisy in sentencing, too (happens in Canada all the time). Can't somebody be sued for such false advertising?
To: expatpat
He is in Mass. My Man.
Considering how the democrats, communists, and socialists like to kill the innocent and protect the guility, one could consider it remarkable that he went to prison at all.
There was a far greater likelyhood that they would have imprisoned the Counselor.
Now, if the perp had been caught bringing a Bible to school, they would have just sit him down and built a prison on top of him.
Just bringing a knife to school and taking someone's with it. Nothing to get worked up about.
This is Mass. where the only criminals are gun owners and fundamintalist Christians.
Home of ted kennedy and john kerry.
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:22:32 PM PST
by
sport
To: aristeides
They like to wear the hoods because they think that it makes them look more threatening, which is probably part of the reason that it was against school policy.
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:26:25 PM PST
by
Eva
To: expatpat
"How could he get parole after 15 years for such a clear case of murder?"
It doesn't say he would be parolled after 15 years. It says he is eligible after 15 years. It is up to competent attorneys to make the case to the judge!
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posted on
01/29/2003 3:32:41 PM PST
by
lawdude
To: lawdude
Sure, that's why I wrote 'could'.
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posted on
01/29/2003 4:43:31 PM PST
by
expatpat
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