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From Marx to Mandela
American Prowler ^ | 01/31/03 | George Neumayr

Posted on 01/30/2003 9:36:15 PM PST by Pokey78

So Nelson Mandela doesn't want America to win the war on terrorism. No surprise there. He didn't want America to win the Cold War either. Last September, he described America's Cold War decision to "arm and finance the mujahedin" against the Soviets one of America's "serious mistakes in the conduct of its foreign affairs."

The media have conveniently forgotten that Mandela was a hard-core Communist. He drank deeply at the well of anti-American Communist theory, and it has never left his system. Those astonished at his apologetics for Saddam Hussein -- "Israel has weapons of mass destruction" but Hussein doesn't, according to Mandela -- should remember that he has played defense for madmen and thugs before. His ramshackle South African government maintained ties with Fidel Castro and Muammar Qaddafi. And long before that, he was responsible for a pamphlet called "How To Be A Good Communist" in which he praised the "genius" of Marx, Lenin and Stalin.

America was one of the capitalist countries Mandela wanted the Soviets to trample. "The cause of Communism is the greatest and most arduous cause in the history of mankind," the pamphlet stated. "Our aim is to change the present world into a Communist world where there will be no exploiters and exploited, no oppressor and oppressed, no rich and poor." He thought a "Communist world is capable of attainment" -- since Communism had succeeded so brilliantly in the USSR, China and the Eastern Bloc. But it would require beating the hell out of capitalists: "the Communist movement still faces powerful enemies which must be crushed and wiped out from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realized. Without a hard and bitter and long struggle against capitalism and exploitation, there can be no Communist world."

Is it a cheap shot to dig this up? No, because Mandela is still under the influence of one-world anti-American ideology. Now instead of wanting a Communist world government that dominates the U.S., he wants a U.N. world government to dominate it. In his mind, America is still an exploiter and oppressor in need of ideological correction. He said on Thursday that "if there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America." Mandela still sees Americans as capitalist pigs, evil enough to commit a "holocaust" for mere money -- "Iraq produces 64 percent of the oil in the world. What Bush wants is to get hold of that oil." (Iraq produces 5 percent of world oil exports, reports CNN.) Mandela even maintains, in his own disgraceful way, the old Soviet canard that America is a racist nation. America, Mandela says, is "undermining" the advance of world government because United Nations chief Kofi Annan is black. "They do not care. Is it because the secretary-general of the United Nations is now a black man?" says Mandela.

The moral-equivalence babble that flowed from Mandela's mouth during the Cold War is being regurgitated on behalf of Hussein. Mandela has said that America must respect the "sovereignty" of Iraq. Did Mandela ever call on America to respect the sovereignty of racist apartheid South Africa? And if Saddam Hussein is sovereign, why isn't the United States? Mandela has no respect for the sovereignty of America, as he demands that America entrust its security to socialists at the U.N.

Bush is a leader "who cannot think properly," says Mandela, spoken like a chilling ideologue. So, according to Mandela, the U.N. must think for him. Even as Bush gives billions to AIDS victims in Africa, Mandela speaks of him as a demented and cruel child. Thankfully, Bush isn't taking him seriously. It is too bad that the world still does.


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1 posted on 01/30/2003 9:36:15 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Nelson is obviously having "senior moments".
2 posted on 01/30/2003 9:38:33 PM PST by goody2shooz
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To: Pokey78
Mandela Autobiography Chapter 42

Any and every source was of interest to me. I read the report of Blas Roca, the general secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba, about their years as an illegal organization during the Batista regime. In Commando by Deneys Reitz, I read of the unconventional guerrilla tactics of the Boer generals during the Anglo-Boer War. I read works by and about Che Guevara, Mao Tse-tung, Fidel Castro. In Edgar Snow's brilliant Red Star Over China I saw that it was Mao's determination and nontraditional thinking that led him to victory. I read The Revolt by Menachem Begin and was encouraged by the fact that the Israeli leader had led a guerrilla force in a country with neither mountains nor forests, a situation similar to our own. I was eager to know more about the armed struggle of the people of Ethiopia against Mussolini, and of the guerrilla armies of Kenya, Algeria, and the Cameroons.

Mandela is a terrorist, despises the United States, and worships our enemies.

3 posted on 01/30/2003 9:46:11 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Pokey78
Mandela is a loathsome thug.
4 posted on 01/30/2003 9:48:56 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: Pokey78

5 posted on 01/30/2003 9:51:06 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Pokey78
Nelson himself is a rascist, by quickly invoking the "race card". He said something about the USA not liking black Kofi....Annan the other hand, do they have too?
6 posted on 01/30/2003 9:58:07 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: Pokey78
I never bought the Mandela BS. If I'd been running South Africa, he'd still be in solitary confinement on Robbin Island.
7 posted on 01/30/2003 10:05:39 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: Pokey78
Nelson, Winnie and Communist party leader Joe Slovo.
8 posted on 01/30/2003 10:08:28 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Question: Why does ANYBODY care what this senile racist says?
9 posted on 01/30/2003 10:25:37 PM PST by bybybill (It`s just for the fish and then the children)
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To: goody2shooz
Me too. I could swear I heard this rant last year. Or maybe it's a touch of deja vu.

And to what purpose does the American media repeat the rant?

Also, this comes days after Bush announces that he's going to try to stick US taxpayers with the bill for AIDS in "Mother" Africa (and the Caribbean).

10 posted on 01/30/2003 10:29:36 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Pokey78
read later
11 posted on 01/30/2003 10:32:09 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Pokey78
Any man who would have climbed into bed naked with a monster like Winnie Mandela is a lunatic.

Winnie Mandela had a young boy murdered by her thugs. Winnie Mandela praised "necklacing"--where burning tires would be hung around a persons neck--causing unspeakable torture before death.

Yup Nelson--that was your babe. Congrats.

12 posted on 01/30/2003 10:32:14 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; Pokey78

Winnie Mandela praised "necklacing"--where burning tires would be hung around a persons neck--causing unspeakable torture before death.


13 posted on 01/30/2003 10:44:55 PM PST by ppaul
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To: goody2shooz
Usually when people get old and senile, loved ones help out by shutting them up, politely of course.

Nelson obviously has no one in his life to do this what is the result? The intellectual equivalent of publicly drooling in his food.

Now on to another point:

I just saw this covered on CNN. Why am I not surprised that CNN only covered the specific anti-Bush parts of Mandela's speech, not the anti-US parts?

No mention of his remark that "if there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America." No mention of his condemning our role in World War II. No mention of his egregiously incorrect statement that "Iraq produces 64 percent of the oil in the world. What Bush wants is to get hold of that oil."

Is CNN part of the problem? You bet.
14 posted on 01/30/2003 11:03:15 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
CNN, true liberals at heart, do typically despise the US and what this country stands for. That's why they hold the views they do and support outrageous policies they really believe in. That's why they spout the kinds of hateful rhetoric that they do at their rallies. They realize, however, that Americans tend not to like these anti-American views very much, so they do all they can to cloak their positions in fuzzy language and keep the rest that might be truly exposed from the American people. Having the traditional left-wing media, dominated by liberals in the networks and CNN, ensured the liberals could usually maintain their lies with all but an avid C-SPAN enthusiast. With the advent of alternative sources of news, including the internet and even balanced coverage from the likes of Fox News Channel, they're having a much more difficult time of it.
15 posted on 01/30/2003 11:14:12 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: belmont_mark; Askel5
PING!
16 posted on 01/30/2003 11:23:19 PM PST by Orion78
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To: PhilDragoo
Nelson Mandela, feels very comfortable and at home with murderers as Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, Robert Mugabe, and every other communist African tyrant, birds of a feather flock together. Mr. Mandela is not morally qualified to criticize President Bush after condoning and supporting the criminal records of those tyrants.

Furthermore, Nelson’s wife Winnie revealed their true color and those of the ANC at Munsieville, on April 13, 1986, when she said: "With our boxes of matches and our necklaces ["necklacing:" a torture in which a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze], we shall liberate this country." (South African Digest, April 18, 1986, p. 324)

WINNIE MANDELA'S NECKLACING

Winnie Mandela has been tied to kidnappings and assaults, as well as disappearances that took place. She also has been quoted as saying, "With our matches and our necklaces, we will liberate South Africa," referring to the practice of placing gasoline-soaked tires around the necks of those some anti-apartheid activists consider "traitors", and lighting them on fire.

Unlike most of their counterparts in the United States, the progressive movement in south Africa refused to keep silent in the face of Mandela's brutality.

In fact, the first reports of the assaults and killing were published by an anti-apartheid newspaper, not the press controlled by or supportive of the government. Anti-apartheid organizations in south africa, such as the Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU) and the United Democratic Front (UDF), were quick to condemn such violence on the part of Mandela.

The UDF/COSATU statement read, in part, "We are outraged at Mrs Mandela's obvious complicity in the recent abductions and assault of Stompie.... We are outraged by the reign of terror that the team [Mandela's body guards, also known as the Mandela United Soccer Club or the Mandela Football Club] has been associated with. Not only is Mrs Mandela associated with the team, in fact, the team is her own creation. We are of the view that Mrs Mandela has abused the trust and confidence which she has enjoyed over the years.... The Mass Democratic Movement hereby distances itself from Mrs Mandela and her actions."

This rebuke from her former allies in the anti-apartheid movement came only five months after another challenge to her image as a well-liked opposition leader. In September 1988, Mandela's home in Soweto was burned down by local "comrades," apparently in retaliation for a sexual assault against a student leader by members of the "football club." (Apparently, real sexual abuse is acceptable to Mandela and her friends, as long as it is heterosexual.)

The attack on Mandela's home appears to have been prompted as well by ill-feeling generated by Mandela's rather comfortable lifestyle, which includes ownership of a Mercedes, in the midst of the widespread poverty in Soweto.

According to a source in the anti-apartheid labor movement, the public condemnation of Mandela by COSATU and UDF was prompted by pressure on the part of Soweto residents fed up with the activities of Mandela and her associates. Prior to the killing of Stompie Seipei, opposition among other anti-apartheid activists to Mandela's thugs had led both Oliver Tambo and Nelson Mandela to call on her to disband the club.

Thomas Sowell discussed the mindset of Mandela's supporters: "Long before the present ugly episode, Winnie Mandela was justifying the hideous practice of burning political enemies alive. How could anyone have romanticized such a person? Like too many other issues, South Africa is not approached as a serious question about the fate of millions of flesh-and-blood human beings, but as a symbolic issue providing yet another backdrop for our own moral preening. Those who are preoccupied with showing that they are on the side of the angels are quick to find angels to side with. Winnie Mandela was just one of those angels."

Just as many American leftists once ignored credible evidence that progressive leaders like Lenin and Castro were brutalizing and killing dissidents, most leftists today continue to fawn over Mandela, despite the fact that even many of her former allies have seen her for the bully she is and have spoken out against her. People who are serious about liberation, sexual and otherwise, need to have a consistent commitment to personal freedom and be willing to speak out whenever people are unjustly attacked, whoever the attacker may be. Hypocritically covering-up and apologizing for the excesses of progressives puts into serious doubt the left's stated commitment to a free society.
17 posted on 01/31/2003 10:18:03 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: Pokey78; goody2shooz; PhilDragoo; denydenydeny; Porterville; FreeCanuckistan; Askel5; ...

"America is a bunch of lousy racist imperialist warmongers!"


"Good job Nelson, now wait for further instructions!"


"Awww, yeah, we gonna kill us some white folks now, right Mugabe?"

Mandela Quotes

"We Communist Party members are the most advanced revolutionaries in modern history ... the enemy must be wiped out from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realized." - Nelson Mandela, during his 1962 trial for terrorism. Quoted in The Wanderer, July 1, 1990, page 6.

"The cause of Communism is the greatest and most arduous cause in the history of mankind. On Page One of this section we found out that our aim is to change the present world into a Communist world where there will be no exploiters and exploited, no oppressor and oppressed, no rich and poor. We also make the point that the victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R., in China and other States in Asia and Eastern Europe proves that a Communist world is capable of attainment. But in spite of this victorious advance, the Communist movement still faces powerful enemies which must be crushed and wiped out from the face of the earth before a Communist world can be realised. Without a hard and bitter and long struggle against capitalism and exploitation, there can be no Communist world. The cause of Communism is the greatest cause in the history of mankind, because it seeks to remove from society all forms of oppression and exploitation to liberate mankind, and to ensure peace and prosperity to all." - Nelson Mandela, How to be a Good Communist

"Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny... There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people." - Nelson Mandela, Moncada Barracks Ceremony, Cuba, 30 Jul 91.

18 posted on 02/02/2003 2:16:30 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe (God Armeth The Patriot)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Outstanding post ... thanks for the flag.

Isn't it cool how the Third Way reconciles all this and more?

19 posted on 02/02/2003 3:01:17 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Interesting post......thanks.
20 posted on 02/02/2003 3:34:15 PM PST by FreeCanuckistan
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To: Pokey78
Justice, Mandela style:


These are both victime of ANC necklacing. A charming practice strenuously ignored by the US media.

21 posted on 02/02/2003 3:45:50 PM PST by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"The cause of Communism is the greatest and most arduous cause in the history of mankind."

Mandela's Communism:

OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION KILLED

No wonder Mandela is pals with Arafat, Fidel, traitorrapist42, Carter, Jackson.

22 posted on 02/02/2003 6:49:08 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I was never enthralled by Mandela.

Apartheid South Africa repressed the majority population. Post-Apartheid South Africa has the highest murder and AIDs rates in the world. The ANC that Mandela founded is a typical Soviet-funded revolutionary movement. Mandela was in bed with the South African Communist Party. Mandela's speech to the SACP follows:

http://www.sacp.org.za/docs/history/sp920407.html

23 posted on 02/03/2003 5:22:14 AM PST by Man of the Right
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