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Nacogdoches Newspaper Confirms Remains Found
Nacogdochjes Sun Sentinel ^ | Today | Cox News Service

Posted on 02/01/2003 5:10:07 PM PST by Arkinsaw

An East Texas high school was turned into a morgue as authorities collected the remains of astronauts from the doomed space shuttle Columbia.

Authorities said remains were being collected in an area between Hemphill and Jasper and taken to Hemphill High School. A local funeral home was assisting officials from the FBI and Defense Department in the grisly work.

One official said investigators were using a global positioning system to record where the remains were being found.

The remains — which included an arm and a hand found near Chinquipin — were part of the debris scattered across East Texas after the shuttle broke apart Saturday as it made its way towards a landing in Florida.

A flight helmet landed on James Couch's property near state Highway 103 and F.M. 1751 in San Augustine County. Couch kept guard over the helmet by setting up camp five feet away.

Couch said he and his family were eating breakfast when he heard something — it turned out to be a piece of pipe — hit the roof of his house.

"It didn't really scare me," Couch said. "A lot of people around here dynamite stumps on the weekend ... and the phone started to ring and my daughter from Pineland told me what happened."

Mica Miller was working on some equipment at his farm near Etoile when he heard some rumbling and noticed swirls of smoke in the sky. About two minutes later, he heard a swishing sound and saw that a large piece of debris had landed on a flatbed trailer 30 feet away.

"I'm devastated to see the aftermath of what just happened," Miller said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: shuttle
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1 posted on 02/01/2003 5:10:08 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
There's a shot on another thread that looks like a mission patch from a flight suit. If this made it down, remains should also survive; though not intact.
2 posted on 02/01/2003 5:12:00 PM PST by Redcloak (Join the Coalition to Prevent Unnecessarily Verbose and Nonsensical Tag Lines, eh)
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To: Redcloak

(posted by hole_n_one on another thread.)

3 posted on 02/01/2003 5:13:34 PM PST by Redcloak (Join the Coalition to Prevent Unnecessarily Verbose and Nonsensical Tag Lines, eh)
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To: Redcloak
I bet there are more of these patches from a batch that they traditionally send up. They give them to freinds and family... This is very sad...
4 posted on 02/01/2003 5:18:43 PM PST by ARA
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To: Redcloak
Life can be very small and extremely large at the same time. I think the Jewish culture has it right about the dead when they collect the remains after a terrorist attack. God bless their souls.
5 posted on 02/01/2003 5:19:27 PM PST by Thebaddog (woof)
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To: Arkinsaw
in an area between Hemphill and Jasper
Jasper has had more than its share of grisly associations. These two towns are so far into the dark void of the East Texas Piney Woods that I don't even know where they are, and I'm from just east of East Texas.
6 posted on 02/01/2003 5:24:05 PM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Arkinsaw
I wonder how Nogadoches is really spelled?
LOL, 3 different versions in one article!
7 posted on 02/01/2003 5:42:12 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Nacogdoches
8 posted on 02/01/2003 5:44:32 PM PST by Bogey78O (It's not a Zero it's an "O")
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To: Arkinsaw; TEXASPROUD; Squantos
Couch said he and his family were eating breakfast when he heard something — it turned out to be a piece of pipe — hit the roof of his house. "It didn't really scare me," Couch said. "A lot of people around here dynamite stumps on the weekend ...

You gotta love TEXANS!!!

9 posted on 02/01/2003 5:47:53 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Redcloak
Ouch.
10 posted on 02/01/2003 5:50:22 PM PST by lizma
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To: Bogey78O
Nacogdoches

Thank you...
I think

11 posted on 02/01/2003 5:53:59 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Arkinsaw
The remains — which included an arm and a hand found near Chinquipin ..........

For the peace of mind for the families I wish they would quit reporting crap like this. It is enough to simply state that some remains were recovered. That goes for ALL THE MEDIA!!!!
12 posted on 02/01/2003 6:17:44 PM PST by YOMO
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To: Redcloak
For going through everything that it did that piece looks rather pristine.
13 posted on 02/01/2003 6:25:10 PM PST by philman_36
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To: Publius6961
"I wonder how Nogadoches is really spelled?"

The correct spelling is Nacogdoches.

It is pronounced Na-coe-DOE-shus.

Indian word. Coushatta or Choctaw, I believe.

Nacogdoches is in the East Texas piney woods and was the first stop on the Old San Antonio Road -- the route by which Moses and Stephen F. Austin led the white settlers into Texas.

The Old San Antonio Road began in Louisiana, at Natchitoches. NACK-o-tish.

Same tribe...

14 posted on 02/01/2003 6:29:38 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: okie01
Isn't Stephen F. Austin college up there?
15 posted on 02/01/2003 6:35:20 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: okie01
Not to make light of what has happened today, but I've cracked some smiles watching the northern anchors try to say Nacogdoches. Shep Smith got twisted up earlier and confused it with Nachitoches in Louisiana.
16 posted on 02/01/2003 6:47:16 PM PST by GOPyouth
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To: Travis McGee
This gal from JOISEY, just loves Texas and one Texan in particular.
17 posted on 02/01/2003 6:54:00 PM PST by OldFriend (SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: Travis McGee
I am one and that line had me grinnin' til the 'bacca show'd..
18 posted on 02/01/2003 6:56:04 PM PST by cactusSharp
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To: austinTparty
"Isn't Stephen F. Austin college up there?"

Correct. Nacogdoches is the home of the Stephen F. Austin State University Lumberjacks.

19 posted on 02/01/2003 6:56:48 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: Arkinsaw

Space Shuttle Columbia Disaster Archive ^

20 posted on 02/01/2003 7:01:22 PM PST by petuniasevan (RIP Columbia crew - you were the "right stuff")
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To: Arkinsaw
My brother owns about 60 acres within that 500 sq. mi. debris field. He's got 3 tanks and a lot of woods. I talked to him this afternoon and he said he looked around for large parts and found nothing but there is no telling when he might run into smaller pieces in the back where the coyotes hang out.
21 posted on 02/01/2003 7:05:56 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Arkinsaw
Didn't want to start a new thread so I posted this here. It's from the Houston Chronical via Drudge.

***WARNING - VERY GRAPHIC!

Men report finding possible shuttle victim's remains

Associated Press

HEMPHILL -- Among the chunks of metal littered across eastern Texas following the space shuttle's explosion were some heartbreaking discoveries: an astronaut's charred patch, a helmet, some human remains.

The shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas this morning, leaving a 500-mile swath of debris across several counties. All seven astronauts were killed just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida.

Clark Barnett, 32, spotted an object while driving on Farm-to-Market Road 2971 this morning. He didn't give it much thought until he got a call from friend Mike Gibbs, an X-ray technician at Sabine County Hospital, who told him about the shuttle explosion.

Both men met on the two-lane road about 9 a.m. and realized with horror that they apparently were looking at an astronaut's remains: a charred torso, thigh bone and skull with front teeth intact.

"I wouldn't want anybody seeing what I saw," Gibbs, 33, told The Associated Press. "It was pretty gruesome."

Fire trucks arrived shortly and blocked the road as authorities collected evidence. A hearse was seen leaving the area today evening after officials loaded it with a black bag.

Billy Smith, the emergency management coordinator for Jasper, Sabine and Newton counties, confirmed that body parts were found near apparent shuttle debris in Sabine County.

The remains have been turned over to the FBI, officials said.

"We don't know where the remains are being taken," Sabine County Sheriff Tom Maddox said.

Residents across eastern Texas reported finding chunks of metal and other shuttle parts atop roofs, in yards and on parking lots. A compact car-size piece of debris fell into Toledo Bend lake, said Maddox. A charred astronaut's patch was found in San Augustine County.

A flight helmet landed on James Couch's property near state Highway 103 and F.M. 1751 in San Augustine County, The Lufkin Daily News reported. He kept guard on the helmet.

Authorities were searching a 500-mile swath but said the debris could be spread over a region three times larger.

22 posted on 02/01/2003 7:20:56 PM PST by prisoner6 ( I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered! I am a FREE MAN!)
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To: cactusSharp; OldFriend
What the HELL am I doing in Kali?????
23 posted on 02/01/2003 8:42:32 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: austinTparty
You know what they say about the weather in Texas. If you don't like it, just wait - it'll change soon. But there was nothing in the forecast today about widely scattered flaming debris. Sure ruined a pretty day outside.
24 posted on 02/01/2003 8:53:59 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: GOPyouth
Which is pronounced Na-coe-tish
25 posted on 02/01/2003 9:01:50 PM PST by Bogey78O (It's not a Zero it's an "O")
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To: Publius6961
Nacanowhere, that is it's true name. I wonder if Bullwinkles is still there.
26 posted on 02/01/2003 9:03:46 PM PST by Porterville
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To: okie01
Hillbilly.
27 posted on 02/01/2003 9:04:51 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Arkinsaw
bump
28 posted on 02/01/2003 9:06:08 PM PST by GrandMoM (Spare the rod, spoil the child!)
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To: Travis McGee; TEXASPROUD; archy; glock rocks
If they were "just" using dynamite they must not be "native" Texans......Or they live in the burbs and have to be cautious of their neighbors livestock.

Potent & Polite if nothing else.......:o)

Stay Safe !!

29 posted on 02/01/2003 9:14:57 PM PST by Squantos (RKBA the original version of Homeland Security .....the one proven method that works !)
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To: Squantos
A moment of silence, please...
30 posted on 02/01/2003 9:23:59 PM PST by patton (Member, Draft Board)
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To: Porterville
Huh?
31 posted on 02/01/2003 9:29:32 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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To: All
Here's an update from the Nacogdoches Sun-Sentinel:

By CHRISTINE S. DIAMOND, Cox East Texas
Feb. 2 - HEMPHILL -- FBI agents Saturday were refrigerating human remains from the crew aboard the space shuttle Columbia that were found in Deep East Texas and sending them to the area's only medical examiner in Lufkin, Sabine County officials said.

Except for one account of three young boys who had found a body part while on a four-wheeler, neither Sabine County Sheriff Tom Maddox nor Emergency Management Coordinator Billy Smith would confirm or deny the many reports springing up of human remains. Only a small portion of the 100 or so sites known to have verified Columbia debris were human remnants, Smith said. And most of these sites were in the Sabine and San Augustine counties, they said.

Maddox late Saturday said that a piece of debris “about the size of a compact car” was found submerged in Toledo Bend Reservoir. The debris had not been recovered, but its coordinates had been determined through sonar.

When asked if a flight recorder had been recovered, as rumored earlier in the evening, the sheriff would not confirm or deny the report.

“We have things that we don’t know what they are,” he told reporters.

Just across the street from the Hemphill Fire Department, where recovery headquarters were based, officials guarded the entry of Lilian Street. Smith and Maddox said there was debris at the end of the rooad and all further information on human remnants was classified.

Starr Funeral Home of Hemphill took several of these remains to medical examiner Dr. James Bruce's office in Lufkin. Bruce is the only medical examiner in the area, Maddox explained. A motorcade of 15 cars and refrigerated vehicles was headed east on state Hwy. 103 Saturday evening.

All other debris is going to an undisclosed location in Hemphill, Smith said.

"Only the FBI is handling the debris. This is considered hazardous material and we are not handling it," Maddox said.

FBI Agent-in-charge Glenn Martin at the Chinquapin Community command center in San Augustine said debris and its remnants were being marked with GPS coordinates, he said.

NASA Astronaut Greg Johnson, who first landed in Nacogdoches, arrived at Hemphill High School football field late Saturday afternoon.

Johnson stopped to look at a {M4Lufkin Daily News picture of a massive ball, with yellow peeling material on it, found in San Augustine. He was uncertain, he said, but the ball could be one of the shuttle's many cylinders.

The ball was found in 83-year-old Ray Thompson's field in the Norwood Community off of Hwy. 103.

"I heard the rumbling," Melinda Smith, one of the first to see the large ball, said. The family was about to leave for a basketball game, and she decided to stay and watch the news.

Calling the Columbia's fate, "terrible,"a group jumped into their trucks to go check out reports of possible body parts at Manuel R. Steptoe's Tyson chicken farm. Police had already cordoned off the entrance to the property where a large piece of metal was discovered behind Steptoe's barn.

Piling into their vehicles to continue down the road, the group changed its course when they learned the next-door neighbors had found a helmet in their field.

"There are no additional helmets on board; they (the astronauts) would be wearing their helmets," NASA Astonaut Greg Johnson said of the find.
32 posted on 02/01/2003 9:41:22 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: okie01
Just kidding; you knew about Nacogdoches, it is a strange little town with a strong backwoods flavor. I was just teasing you for knowing about the University.
33 posted on 02/01/2003 10:35:49 PM PST by Porterville
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To: Porterville
"I was just teasing..."

It's just that, where I'm from, "hillbilly" is an uncommon form of address.

But I've answered to "redneck" for over fifty years...

34 posted on 02/02/2003 8:52:03 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE.)
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