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Crews Scour Texas, La. for Shuttle Debris - Human Remains Found? (With Email from NASA to Freeper)
AP NEWS ^ | 2 Feb, 2003 | AP

Posted on 02/02/2003 8:34:53 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Examination of debris from the space shuttle Columbia continued Sunday, as residents in Texas and Louisiana stumbled upon human remains and wreckage while crews scoured hundreds of square miles in an effort to piece together the tragedy.

In Hemphill, near the Louisiana state line, hospital employee Mike Gibbs reported finding what appeared to be a charred torso, thigh bone and skull on a rural road near what appeared to be other debris. Billy Smith, an emergency coordinator for three East Texas counties, confirmed the find.

"I wouldn't want anybody seeing what I saw," Gibbs said. "It was pretty gruesome."

On a farm, also in Sabine County, two young boys found a charred human leg, The Dallas Morning News reported Sunday. "From the hip to the foot, it's all there, scorched from the fire," said their father, Bob White.

Full story HERE


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disaster; shuttle
Hearts, prayers, and support go out to the family and friends of the Shuttle Crew.
1 posted on 02/02/2003 8:34:53 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
Amen.

I just got to my office and received an E mail from Milt Heflin, who assisted in holding the news conference at NASA in Houston yesterday afternoon;. He is the Chief Flight Director at NASA. I would like to post it as it is very moving. Needless to say I do not know how.

If I could forward it to somone that could post it on FR I think many would like to read it.

Can any one help me out? Tom
2 posted on 02/02/2003 8:41:09 AM PST by tall_tex
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To: tall_tex
Why not just cut and paste it to a post?
3 posted on 02/02/2003 8:45:49 AM PST by EggsAckley (Time flies like an arrow.......but fruit flies like bananas)
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To: Gunslingr3
ping
4 posted on 02/02/2003 8:45:56 AM PST by jkhrainbow
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To: tall_tex
Take the email text and highlight it. Right click mouse and press (select) copy. In the reply section of FR, position cursor in 'Your Reply', right click mouse and press (select) paste.
5 posted on 02/02/2003 8:48:58 AM PST by TomServo
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To: tall_tex
I am posting this for Tall_tex. This e-mail is written to him and his classmates. Thank you for letting me post this for you.

Milt was president of my high school senior class, a great friend and has been an inspiration for all of his classmates. All the recipients of this E mail are members of our graduating class

From: Milt Heflin
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:44 PM

Subject: A Bad Day...

....it's after 11:00 p.m. and I have been in Mission Control since 7:00 a.m. this morning...finally got home where I could share the love and caring of Sally and call and talk to my two boys...the team did a marvelous job of doing what they are supposed to do when an event like this happens...I have now experienced three loss of life tragedies in our human space flight program, the Apollo 1 fire, 7 months after I started work at NASA, the Challenger in 1986 and now loss of Columbia and her crew of seven...each of these tragedies occurring within the same last week in late January...today, at a press conference I said something to this effect...this is a bad day...I'm so glad that I live and work in a country where we can fix bad days...and we will fix this...later I also reflected on had sad it is that it takes tragedies to bring people together...and as a great country, we can do better than that...today my work phone mail had several messages from colleagues that have left this business saying that if there was anything they could do to let them know...what wonderful messages to receive...
I will be returning to Mission Control tomorrow to began another uncharted journey as we have two Americans and one Russian on our Space Station where we use the Space Shuttle to change out crews...after the Challenger accident a cartoon appeared showing a covered wagon heading west with no driver of the wagon...the caption said something about deciding to continue westward discovery "unmanned"...I will serve my remaining days in this agency being damned sure that our covered wagons are manned.... Not sure why I sat down here this evening and wrote this to you, my classmates...maybe it's the mortal feeling I have tonight....
Milt

6 posted on 02/02/2003 9:00:03 AM PST by L`enn
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To: L`enn
wow - historic! Thanks for sharing, Tall Tex!
7 posted on 02/02/2003 9:05:26 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: tall_tex
Memories Of The Challenger
8 posted on 02/02/2003 9:10:09 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: Happy2BMe
...maybe its the mortal feeling I have tonight....

I think we could learn from this bit of reverence.. Tom
9 posted on 02/02/2003 9:10:47 AM PST by tall_tex
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To: tall_tex
"I think we could learn from this bit of reverence.. "

We surely can and will, dear friend.

This loss and it's impact will have far more reaching affects than to our space program alone.

The analogy of the wagon continuing westward (into space) being fully manned is prophetic... it will assuredly happen.

This was a terrible blow to NASA and the U.S., but there will be far more good that comes from it than the immediate suffering now being felt.

America must know that while some danced in celebration over our national pain, we know who we are and what we as a nation must do to preserve our way of life and freedom.

And one thing we will NEVER do - and that is quit! This is where enemies of ours have always made their fatal mistake - and we have always prevailed against them.

10 posted on 02/02/2003 9:22:29 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: Happy2BMe
In Hemphill, near the Louisiana state line, hospital employee Mike Gibbs reported finding what appeared to be a charred torso

Flight has been restricted below 3,000 feet over the debris field. That is to keep things like this from apearing in helicopter shots on Eye-Witness News.

So9

11 posted on 02/02/2003 10:43:16 AM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: L`enn; tall_tex
Thank you for sharing this with us.

I was touched yesterday by the openness, vulnerability, and graciousness of the NASA representatives who spoke at the briefing and press conference. The courage of the Columbia astronauts was reflected in a different way through these men. They didn't try to hide their pain but shared their feelings with us, and they patiently answered the reporters' questions when I'm sure that press conference was the last place they wanted to be at that moment.

My heart goes out to the families of the Columbia astronauts and to the extended NASA "family" - I am praying for all of them.
12 posted on 02/02/2003 10:58:40 AM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Please sign the Adult Alert Petition @ http://www.petitiononline.com/adalert/)
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To: Happy2BMe
I was really proud of Texas yesterday, the KRLD reporters who left Dallas for East Texas at 10am said the road was already lined with flags at half mast on the way. Many Texans planted American flags next the the parts they found. Its un-real how much this President has had to deal with, First a DemoRat attack in courts of his election, 9-11 and the war against the Talaban, then the Enron and Worldcom crooks, a terrorist in Iraq and one in Korea and now a space shuttle crashing across the Texas state. The Dallas Morning News Sunday has a cartoon showing the "New stars over Texas" with a star and the names of each Astronaut.
13 posted on 02/02/2003 11:21:52 AM PST by pwatson
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To: Otta B Sleepin
" The courage of the Columbia astronauts was reflected in a different way through these men."

I think the courage of the American Spirit shown through them rather proudly - the Home of The Free, Land of The Brave.

14 posted on 02/02/2003 1:29:31 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: pwatson
"Its un-real how much this President has had to deal with, First a DemoRat attack in courts of his election, 9-11 and the war against the Talaban, then the Enron and Worldcom crooks, a terrorist in Iraq and one in Korea and now a space shuttle crashing across the Texas state."

I think about this every time I see the antiwar protestors sliming up and down sidewalks otherwise used by humans.

Tradegy does one of two things; it either unites or it divides.

There are many in this nation that would do everything in their power to use something as horrible as even this to degrade our President and belittle us to the world.

I say this tradegy will only strengthen America and unite us.

You are right, President Bush has had to deal with more tradegy and division than any president since the Civil War - and I could think of no other President I would rather have than him to do it - we're all proud of "Dubya."

The "Anti - - Anti-war" Wave. What Should It Be? What Should It Look Like?

15 posted on 02/02/2003 1:35:43 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: All
A very interesting shuttle tile is Here.

I can only post on Geocities and have little bandwidth to post, so perhaps someone can post it for me.

I inverted the photo on my computer and the writing reads:
V070-1911
-076 (or G) MN00

With these numbers, the tile should be traced to its exact location. It came from Kerens, Texas, 65 miles SE of Dallas and another tile is in Rice, Texas, 45 miles S of Dallas on I-45. If these tile came from under the left wing, that would place its failure at the top of the debris field.

16 posted on 02/02/2003 4:55:55 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (God Speed Columbia Seven)
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To: Happy2BMe
I think the courage of the American Spirit shown through them rather proudly - the Home of The Free, Land of The Brave

Well said.

17 posted on 02/02/2003 5:32:23 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Please sign the Adult Alert Petition @ http://www.petitiononline.com/adalert/)
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To: Otta B Sleepin
The Home of The Free
The Land of The Brave

18 posted on 02/02/2003 5:57:29 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"Down - Slow"

A piece of Columbia that fell near Hwy 309 Texas in Kerens, southeast of south of Dallas

19 posted on 02/02/2003 6:01:50 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Awesome! I'm saving this one.
20 posted on 02/02/2003 7:23:24 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Please sign the Adult Alert Petition @ http://www.petitiononline.com/adalert/)
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To: Servant of the Nine
"Flight has been restricted below 3,000 feet over the debris field. That is to keep things like this from apearing in helicopter shots on Eye-Witness News."

A sensible idea that grossly offends the first amendment.
21 posted on 02/03/2003 5:39:10 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Happy2BMe
Bump
22 posted on 02/03/2003 5:39:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Happy2BMe
BTTT post 6
23 posted on 02/03/2003 5:45:51 PM PST by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: Rightly Biased

24 posted on 02/03/2003 5:50:16 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: Otta B Sleepin
Sorry it took so long to reply to your E. It has been hectic in a house filled with sorrow. For our Astranauts, and my friend and classmate.

I had my wife send your post to Milt, as I am cut and paste challenged.

I have been receiving E's all day from Milt's and my classmates. While most are not FReepers, I am suprised, that several are. Tom

Tom
25 posted on 02/03/2003 5:50:31 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: Happy2BMe
Milt sends me awsome pictures from space land, I will be glad to send them so you can post, soory still cut and paste challenged. Does that mean I qualify for a government hand out ($), that would be nice, sorry you guys would have to pay for it. Tom
26 posted on 02/03/2003 6:06:19 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: tall_tex
Tom you are spelling challenged also, soory=sorry, soory.. Tom
27 posted on 02/03/2003 6:09:43 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: Happy2BMe
Awesome Photo---how ironic that people on horse-back are now looking for the scattered pieces of this space technology.

Prayers to the families.

28 posted on 02/03/2003 6:10:48 PM PST by aeronca
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To: aeronca
It is odd...space to ridin an animal. I thought of this as well.
29 posted on 02/03/2003 7:44:39 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday! (I suppose in an "Ask Jeeves" world, everyone is a rocket scientist.)
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To: Happy2BMe
This is what I wrote to a friend on Saturday:

Gavin, Gabriel and I just heard the President's speech on the radio. What a tragedy to lose the shuttle and so many brave and adventurous souls.

Is space travel just a dream? Can it be possible for men to become independent of Earth and part of the universe on our own? I doubt it - not in our present bodies.

I believe this beautiful planet is our temporary home and we are made to dwell elsewhere in immortal form. The quest to reach into space is part of our longing to be home where we belong - before our time. We know there is more - but where is it? It must be up there....

There are messages in the stars for mankind, a beckoning to come closer, a temptation to break free from the limitations of earth, a mathematical puzzle to solve. To stare into the heavens can enhance the feelings we already have, from puny insignificance to being an integral part of something bigger than all our world.

The constellations don't exist by accident any more than we do - and though we observe accidents, as we did today, does God? Does He see an accident, or the unfolding of His own plan? To understand what has happened, must we just examine the evidence of the destruction, or do we need to ask the Source of our restlessness what it is He wants us to know? Why are we compelled to risk all? What can we accomplish? Are we on the right path, or do we need to turn inward?

As President Bush said today, though the shuttle did not land safely on earth, we pray the souls aboard are safe at home.

Perhaps those seven who were lost this morning are found and the mystery is solved for them. For the rest of us, the thrill of discovery still lies ahead... and the adventure goes on. That's how I handle the grief.... I find peace in knowing that the one who is gone is finally whole and I find exhiliration in anticipating that we who remain will explore further and each of us conquers the horizon in our own time.

30 posted on 02/03/2003 7:48:28 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: tall_tex
I hope it will be of a little comfort to Milt - thanks for passing it along to him, Tom.
31 posted on 02/03/2003 7:52:16 PM PST by Otta B Sleepin (Please sign the Adult Alert Petition @ http://www.petitiononline.com/adalert/)
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To: ValerieUSA
I think the bigness of space cannot help but speak of the greatness of God - The Creator and the smallness of man - the created.

If man was created in the likeness of his Creator, then the Creator instilled into man the desire to explore the unknown.

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

32 posted on 02/03/2003 8:03:03 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
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To: Happy2BMe

33 posted on 02/03/2003 8:24:24 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: Beelzebubba
A sensible idea that grossly offends the first amendment.

That is why they did it. That is not why they said they did it. The FAA made it a flight Safety Restriction. Any newsies who don't believe them are welcome to take it to court. Wouldn't that make them look good.

So9

34 posted on 02/03/2003 9:09:34 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (Republican's for Sharpton)
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To: Servant of the Nine
NASA didn't want any dead astronaut shots making it to the internet or on tv.
35 posted on 02/03/2003 10:26:49 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: ValerieUSA
With your permission I would like to forward this to Milt.

Your words shook my soul. Tom
36 posted on 02/06/2003 5:52:53 PM PST by tall_tex
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To: tall_tex
You are welcome to pass it on to anyone -- thank you.
37 posted on 02/06/2003 6:16:39 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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