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Embrace file-sharing, or die
Salon.com ^ | Feb. 1, 2003 | John Snyder and Ben Snyder

Posted on 02/02/2003 9:51:50 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: jayef
dude i hear you 100%, and you're dead on regarding the electronic music scene being 100% vinyl (for DJ's)...

but i'm buying rock & roll records here...

121 posted on 02/04/2003 12:22:15 PM PST by bc2
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To: wizzler
That doesn't mean the other 1 percent don't merit our respect and restraint when it comes to honoring their copyrights.

When they start respecting my privacy rights, and respecting our Constitution, I'll consider having some pity for them. Until then, they can go to hell.

Another thing: I'd have the same answer whether or not anyone was stealing music. I don't DL stuff that's avaialable at the store or at Amazon. Just because some people do, doesn't mean anyone should be able to get away with the DMCA, outrageous copyright extensions, hacking into people's PCs, etc. If they stopped stealing, or if they stole more, the answer would be the same.

122 posted on 02/04/2003 12:27:50 PM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
Absolutely. I think this is commonly referred to as "two wrongs don't make a right."

123 posted on 02/04/2003 12:29:06 PM PST by wizzler
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To: wizzler
Or "two violations of rights don't make a right."
124 posted on 02/04/2003 12:30:25 PM PST by wizzler
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To: wizzler
This was your statement:

Which raises another good point: If downloadable music is the only viable path to a healthy music business, where are the successful new entrants who should inevitably be filling this wide-open niche?

I answered you by saying that there are players in this niche. There is a market there. Your definition of "successful new entrants" is apparently based on your knowledge of their existance.

My point is that there is a new model. It's not corporate, it's not highly marketed and packaged, it's not J LO. The new model involves live performance and sharing of the product. The artists are compensated, although not to the out of proportion degree they are under the current model. To me, this is the way it should be. I don't need Sony, or TW to tell me who to listen to.

125 posted on 02/04/2003 12:30:50 PM PST by jayef
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This guy hits the nail of the head so often in this article, that it would be pointless to quote sections. Just re-read the article from top to bottom.
126 posted on 02/04/2003 12:57:51 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Why should I be respectful to a theif? Respect must be earned, not given. Those who steal deserve no respect. To make matters worse, you promote your crimes, try to recruit others to commit the same crime (no doubt to lessen yours), but refuse to admit you did anything wrong! You rationalize away or ignore all arguments to the contrary. You deserve no respect!

You and the rest of your pirates are nothing but a waste of my time. You could be using your energy to promote a cure of the ills you cite, but instead advocate legalizing your theft which will destroy an entire industry (one that is already quite sick).

I am done wasting my time on you and your ilk, you do not have the emotional maturity to see the error of your ways, or even to see that there are victims to your crimes. The victims include not only the artists you steal from, but owners of small CD shops who depend on CD sales to feed their families. You care nothing if your crime causes these small businesses to close.

MARK A SITY
127 posted on 02/05/2003 6:18:56 AM PST by logic101.net
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To: eno_
I am quite tired of dealing with emotional infants who rationalize away their crimes to the point they refuse to admint they are crooks, and care nothing that your crimes have real victims.

You are not worth my time. You are not worth anyone's time. You are a worthless thief who should be placed in jail until you mature enough to realize that there is honor in working for what you want, need or desire; until you realize that it is wrong to steal from others.

However, I am willing to bet that if someone stole from you your reaction would be quite different. Just like the gang member I mentioned here the other day who stated that it was ok for him to steal a car if he needed to go someplace, but it would be wrong for someone to ever steal his mother's car because his mother needed her car.

Grow up! But don't expect me to reply again; as I stated I am tired of dealing with emotional infants and will no longer waste my time with you. Some people work for a living.

MARK A SITY
128 posted on 02/05/2003 6:27:19 AM PST by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
Why should I be respectful to a theif? Respect must be earned, not given. Those who steal deserve no respect.

I said before, I don't download MP3s. I oppose laws written by and for the benefit of lawyers.

What an annoying little twit you are.

129 posted on 02/05/2003 7:03:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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