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Astronauts doomed from the start
.heraldsun ^ | 2/3/2003 | PHILLIP COOREY and ANNA COCK

Posted on 02/02/2003 6:35:58 PM PST by TLBSHOW

Astronauts doomed from the start

THE seven astronauts on space shuttle Columbia may have been doomed in the first moments after they were shot into space 16 days ago.

NASA officials are investigating whether loose foam from an external tank that struck Columbia's left wing during takeoff contributed to its disintegration under the stress of re-entering the Earth's atmosphere – one of the most dangerous parts of any shuttle mission. The last words between mission control at Houston and shuttle commander Rick Husband gave no clue of impending disaster:

Mission control: "Columbia, Houston, we see your tyre pressure messages and we did not copy your last."

Cdr Husband: "Roger, but . . ." No more was heard.

The homeward-bound space shuttle broke up in flames and trails of smoke and vapour over Texas yesterday, killing all seven astronauts aboard.

The disaster struck 16 minutes before Columbia, the oldest in the shuttle fleet at 22 years, was due to land at Cape Canaveral in Florida. Echoing the tragedy of space shuttle Challenger, which stunned the world 17 years last week, Columbia exploded at an altitude of about 63km as it was travelling 18 times the speed of sound.

The explosion scattered debris and human remains across hundreds of square kilometres in Texas and Louisiana and shook houses in the area around Nacogdoches, Texas.

Police in Hemphill, eastern Texas, said human remains believed to be from the crew of Columbia had been recovered.

"I can confirm human remains from the space shuttle Columbia have been found in the debris," Hemphill police spokeswoman Karen Steele said, declining to elaborate.

A burnt torso and thigh bone were found on a Texan country road while elsewhere a scorched helmet and arm patch from one of the space suits were discovered.

In a televised address to the nation, an emotional President George W. Bush paid homage to the astronauts, saying, "The crew of the shuttle Columbia did not return safely to earth but we can pray that they are safely home".

The sparse information NASA had yesterday seemed to point to failures on the craft's left side.

Sensors on the shuttle's left wing and in the left wheel gear detected a sudden temperature increase or failure minutes before the vehicle exploded 63km over Texas as it flew at more than 20,000km/h.

NASA had concluded only two days ago there was no serious damage to the tiles, but was uncertain last night.

"As we look at that now in hindsight we cannot discount that there might be a connection," stunned shuttle manager Ron Dittemore said.

Investigators have all but ruled out terrorism as a cause because the shuttle's high altitude and extreme speed effectively put it out of range of an attack from the ground.

Officials are focusing on the extent of damage sustained during take-off.

Experts said many other malfunctions could have destroyed the shuttle during re-entry, when a cocoon of hot plasma envelops the spacecraft.

Columbia's underside and the leading edges of its wings would have been subjected to some of the highest temperatures during re-entry – up to 1650C – as friction from air rushing by heated its surface, experts said.

During this critical period, computers control the shuttle's angle of descent as it flies with its nose pointed about 40 degrees upward; the slightest deviation from the ideal orientation can expose underprotected parts of the vessel, causing it to burn up.

The shuttle's chief defences against an inferno are about 28,000 heat-resistant tiles attached to its vulnerable aluminium exterior. Experts have worried about the tiles' tendency to break off during flights since the earliest days of experimental test flights.

Relatives of the astronauts – six Americans and an Israeli – watched in horror while waiting at Cape Canaveral's VIP area to welcome their loved ones.

Residents in Texas, Louisiana and Alabama reported hearing the explosion as the shuttle fell apart at more than 18 times the speed of sound.

Bob Molter from Palestine, Texas, said he had seen the shuttle break up in the sky.

"There was a big boom that shook the house for more than a minute, and I went outside because I thought there had been a train accident," he said.

"I looked up and saw the trails of smoke zig-zagging, going across the sky."

Thousand of pieces of debris landed over vast areas of Texas and Louisiana which experts said may take years to find. People were warned not to touch any wreckage because it might be contaminated with toxic propellants.

President George W. Bush rushed to the White House from where he described the disaster in a televised address as a national tragedy.

"The Columbia is lost. There are no survivors," he said, before later ordering all flags be flown at half-mast.

The crew, six of whom were married and five of whom had children, were relatively inexperienced. Only three had flown in space before.

NASA has ruled out human error.


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To: TLBSHOW
It's not the President's fault. NASA knew about the foam breaking off since 1997 if not earlier. They knew it was causing more damage than normal after they changed the formula to remove the Freon. That may not be what caused this, but I think it is.

Bush can't be held responsible for that.
221 posted on 02/02/2003 10:26:33 PM PST by Jael
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To: TLBSHOW
OH, YIKES, You and Fred Mertz?

ROTFLMCO!

222 posted on 02/02/2003 10:27:24 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: #3Fan
Gotta do some internet work. I'll check back later or tomorrow night.

I don't understand why everyone gets so angry over these discussions and I don't mean to raise heart rates over this issue.

223 posted on 02/02/2003 10:28:34 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Jael
He said they appear to show a trail of debris.

You realize, don't you, that that is the photographer's characterization of his own pictures, that NASA hasn't seen them yet.

224 posted on 02/02/2003 10:28:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: woofie
I think it is a fact that the shuttle was hit by a ufo...Its crowded up there

Klingons or Romulans?

225 posted on 02/02/2003 10:29:11 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: TLBSHOW
Look, you don't have to answer her, but you don't have to be rude. Ok? Stay on your topic and do a good job. Then no one can complain.
226 posted on 02/02/2003 10:29:19 PM PST by Jael
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Yes, and ONLY the two of them realized it. Go figure!
227 posted on 02/02/2003 10:30:03 PM PST by Howlin
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To: #3Fan
Most shuttle flight return with missing tiles. Per NASA's own reports. It takes a big hole to cause real damge and loss of the orbiter.

NASA considers loos of up to 40 tiles routine.

But a big whack taking out a group of 10-12 might be a completely different result.

snooker
228 posted on 02/02/2003 10:31:12 PM PST by snooker
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To: Willie Green
Simply recognizing objectively that there is no such thing as perfection.

And I agree. My point was that there was damage to the left wing during takeoff, the extent of which was not known, and it should have been checked out. "Utopia" and "perfection" have nothing to do with it.

On the other hand, maybe there was no way to "check it out" - - in which case we have another problem, and an inexcusable one, given the history of debris flying off the fuel tanks and tiles leaving the orbiter during launch. (See Jael's post #140.) "Utopia" and "perfection" have nothing to do with that, either.

229 posted on 02/02/2003 10:31:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin
No, those are Dittmore's comments about what he has seen. He has the data.

"In addition, Dittemore said images taken by an observer in California that appears to show an early trail of debris behind the shuttle will be examined and compared with the actual telemetry.

"We're going to overlay his report with what the data shows to us and hopefully the two of them will help us piece together a path that might help lead us to the cause," Dittemore said. "Again, we're very early in our analysis and we're still poring over a lot of data. So bear with us as we go through this effort and bear with us as we report to you because it's going to be fluid, it's going to change, and it's certainly possible we'll contradict ourselves from day to day. That's just the nature of what we have to go through right now."

230 posted on 02/02/2003 10:31:50 PM PST by Jael
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Umm, what's your problem with that person drawing a conclusion from what NASA has stated, that there appears to be a trail of debris falling in CA?

231 posted on 02/02/2003 10:33:05 PM PST by Jael
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To: Lancey Howard
LANCEY HOWARD WROTE: "Like it or not, this is the result of failing to thoroughly check things out. Oh, they "analyzed" this and "concluded" that, but in the end NASA decided to just keep their fingers crossed. They should have checked it out."

BINGO!

Possible damage to the left wing heat-shield tiles MAY NOT have been the ultimate cause of the break up, but it SHOULD have been checked out instead of just ASSUMING such a CRITICALLY IMPORTANT item was okay.

See my post #185.

232 posted on 02/02/2003 10:33:34 PM PST by Concerned
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To: Howlin
I never said that.

Here's what you said:

That being said, if a few did fall off over California, the catastrophic events wouldn't have happened immediately and since it was traveling so fast, I still think the even happened over Texas.

I don't believe that a few tiles coming off would've caused immediate catastrophy. I believe that a few tiles coming off would've caused burn-through and would've taken a few minutes.

233 posted on 02/02/2003 10:33:53 PM PST by #3Fan
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To: Willie Green
Klingons or Romulans?

Well they were green and small ....but Im unsure of their religion, maybe baptist

234 posted on 02/02/2003 10:33:57 PM PST by woofie (old age aint for sissies)
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To: Howlin; TLBSHOW
And no, there's not always a cause. Stuff happens.

What is the reason the shuttle did not do what it was expected to? I am sure that is what TLBSHOW is asking for.

235 posted on 02/02/2003 10:34:37 PM PST by Cool Guy (In God We Trust.)
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To: Concerned
Are you a student of Mia T's?
236 posted on 02/02/2003 10:35:29 PM PST by billhilly (On fire for BIG AL SHARPTON)
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To: TLBSHOW
The title doesn't fit the text of the story. It's all speculation.
237 posted on 02/02/2003 10:35:53 PM PST by Jean S
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To: snooker
Immediately after the Columbia rolled to a stop, the inspection crews began the process of the post flight inspection. As soon as the orbiter was approached, light spots in the tiles were observed indicating that there had been significant damage to the tiles. The tiles do a fantastic job of repelling heat, however they are very fragile and susceptible to impact damage. Damage numbering up to forty tiles is considered normal on each mission due to ice dropping off of the external tank (ET) and plume re-circulation causing this debris to impact with the tiles. But the extent of damage at the conclusion of this mission was not "normal". The pattern of hits did not follow aerodynamic expectations and the number, size and severity of hits were abnormal.

Three hundred and eight hits were counted during the inspection, one-hundred and thirty two (132) were greater than one inch. Some of the hits measured fifteen (15) inches long with depths measuring up to one and one-half (1 1/2) inches. Considering that the depth of the tile is two (2) inches, a 75% penetration depth had been reached.Over one hundred (100) tiles have been removed from the Columbia because they were irreparable. The inspection revealed the damage, now the "detective process" began.

During the STS-87 mission, there was a change made on the external tank. Because of NASA's goal to use environmentally friendly products, a new method of "foaming" the external tank had been used for this mission and the STS-86 mission. It is suspected that large amounts of foam separated from the external tank and impacted the orbiter. This caused significant damage to the protective tiles of the orbiter. Foam cause damage to a ceramic tile?! That seems unlikly, however, when that foam is combined with a flight velocity between speeds of MACH two to MACH four, it becomes a projectile with incredible damage potential. The big question? At what phase of the flight did it happen and what changes need to be made to correct this for future missions? I will explain the entire process.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2121/used_news.htm
238 posted on 02/02/2003 10:36:33 PM PST by Jael
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To: Jael
Your link goes to a chat/blog type site. It cannot be considered a reliable site.
239 posted on 02/02/2003 10:40:17 PM PST by Jean S
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To: snooker
Most shuttle flight return with missing tiles.

Yes, I know. But I believe that the damage on launch was extraordinary damage due to the size of the object that struck the wing and the way it sprayed as if it was brittle.

Per NASA's own reports. It takes a big hole to cause real damge and loss of the orbiter.

Yep. Or missing tiles in crucial areas.

NASA considers loos of up to 40 tiles routine.

Yes I know.

But a big whack taking out a group of 10-12 might be a completely different result.

This is what could've happened on launch.

240 posted on 02/02/2003 10:42:32 PM PST by #3Fan
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