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Did NASA know there was a problem? PIC and Excerpts from an Israeli Article
Maariv ^

Posted on 02/02/2003 8:41:24 PM PST by yonif

The left wing of the shuttle picture taken from the window of the shuttle.

Main Issue in the Article

Did Nasa know about this and therefore kept their silence, not telling the astronauts?

-The photo was revealed on Channel 1 of Israel. This pic was taken during an interview the Channel had with the Israeli astronaut.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: columbia; tinfoilalert
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To: yonif
I've been to Israel, and I enjoyed the country and it's people were always treated me very well... that being said, you havn't really swayed me to your point of view by saying it's the 'New York Times of Israel'... ;0)
101 posted on 02/02/2003 10:06:24 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.)
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To: yonif

Then why didn't they tell NASA about it?

If you say they overlooked it, perhaps NASA did also..

(assuming it's legit and it is the wing and all of that stuff)

102 posted on 02/02/2003 10:07:01 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (A Shrubbery!)
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To: Axenolith
Again, how would they get any of these items INTO the Columbia? There's this thing called depressurization that happens when you open a Spacecraft in orbit. Did I mention that this would pretty much instantly kill all those aboard said Spacecraft? Yes, I'll agree the Astronauts aboard Columbia should have been told about the damage and at least had a chance to look, and then of course worry about if they would be able to actually make it home for 14 or more days. Of course tiles have been damaged before. In fact there have been 8 other occurances of this sort of damage happening during a shuttle launch, 5 of which happend to this very ship. If there would have had a way to fix this, I'm sure they would have, or at least tried. Unfortunately they didn't have the tools necessary to do this, and they forgot to bring MacGyver along with them. I'm sure he could have fixed it with bubblegum and some of those spare EVA suits that people keep saying should have been (but were not) on the shuttle.
103 posted on 02/02/2003 10:07:02 PM PST by Jerry505
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To: yonif
I know you were. That was just my weak attempt at some humor. We can still find times to smile while discussing this sad tragedy here among friends.
104 posted on 02/02/2003 10:07:09 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"I've been to Israel, and I enjoyed the country and it's people were always treated me very well... that being said, you havn't really swayed me to your point of view by saying it's the 'New York Times of Israel'... ;0)"

I made that Analogy based on not the content of the New York Times to what Maariv has, but based on the availability of that paper throughout the US and the number of readers.
105 posted on 02/02/2003 10:07:25 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif

Then who was holding the video camera? Was this footage available only to the Israelis?

106 posted on 02/02/2003 10:08:55 PM PST by deport
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To: yonif
Well, the enquirer is plenty available and has a huge readership...
I just don't see how this is accurate... I just don't buy... call me a skeptic... :0)
107 posted on 02/02/2003 10:09:33 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.)
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To: yonif
"It is like the New York Times of Israel."

yonif!!! Get a GRIP!!! The New York Times has become the joke of the United States!!!

108 posted on 02/02/2003 10:09:47 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
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To: yonif
YES. I have stated that. It is a still photo from the video taken during a talk between Ramon and the Israeli PM at a press conference. It says so in the article. The article talks about this revelation as put forward on Channel 1 in Israel

Did you see the interview? Unless you have seen the actual interview when it was run, don't believe your own eyes on something like this. I've had enough dealings with the media at this point to know that the media(especially) make lots of mistakes.

Yonif, I recently spent about 2 months looking at every photo of the space shuttle that I could find. I am talking about thousands of photos. I can assure you- that is not a photo of the wing of Columbia.

109 posted on 02/02/2003 10:10:38 PM PST by abner (www.usflagballoon.com <--shameless plug)
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To: SierraWasp
Get a grip because there is an attack coming that NASA is to blame and The President is to blame, so get ready. I warned about it last night. No one cared to discuss it.
110 posted on 02/02/2003 10:14:11 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"Are they suggesting that NASA either didn't see this or that they ignored it? Impossible. I am sure that NASA did everything possible to determine if this was enough damage to be a problem."

How can you be so sure? Mistakes and irresponsibility can be present.
111 posted on 02/02/2003 10:15:52 PM PST by yonif
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To: TLBSHOW
It was already supposedly launched this morning on Meet The Press. Haven't gotten confirmation though. But it won't be long until Hitlary is on the senate floor saying "What did he know and when did he know it!"
112 posted on 02/02/2003 10:16:34 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: yonif
Here is a link for you to look at- Nasa Spaceflight Shuttle Gallery

It is still getting lots of traffic, so it is slow. But, there are thousands of photos of every shuttle mission.

Spend some time there looking at photos, and you will see for yourself that the photo in the Israeli newspaper is wrong.

113 posted on 02/02/2003 10:16:39 PM PST by abner (www.usflagballoon.com <--shameless plug)
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To: TLBSHOW
I wholeheartedly agree with you there. The left has tried to pin 9/11 and the economy on President Bush, so of course they are going to try to make this look like his fault.
114 posted on 02/02/2003 10:17:02 PM PST by Jerry505
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To: TLBSHOW
An "attack" on dubya from the Jews?

I think the sun is more likely to rise in the west tomorrow than for them to stage an organized "attack" in the most Pro-Israel President we have seen in a decade.

No.. No way.

It's completely against their own best interest.. If anything, I can see them covering up for him, us and NASA.

Not the other way around.

115 posted on 02/02/2003 10:17:05 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (A Shrubbery!)
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To: Jhoffa_
Even in Israel, there is an anti-american, leftist movement...
116 posted on 02/02/2003 10:18:39 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.)
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To: TLBSHOW
So WHAT?!? Let 'em bring it on!!! What are you doin, trying to generate a self-fulfilling prophecy? I saw all your posts and little hissy fit with howlin. You two cluttered up the whole thread with that silly spat!!!

Therefore... don't ever tell me to "get a grip" ever in your life, again!!!

117 posted on 02/02/2003 10:18:40 PM PST by SierraWasp (Like, hey man, SHIFT_HAPPENS!!!)
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To: Jhoffa_
It won't come from the Israeli's. It will come from those homegrown terrorists known as the democRATS!
118 posted on 02/02/2003 10:18:45 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: yonif; All
1. I neither believe or disbelieve this photo. I have presented this as current event material as pertaining to the shuttle mishap. This is an example of one of the main israeli newspaper reporting. They do not believe or disbelieve it as well. They are just providing some info that they have gotten.

2. I do not believe NASA cannot make mistakes. There is no organization that has no flaws.

3. Maariv = New York Times, not in content, but by readership and availability. Maariv is the biggest newspaper in Israel, one of 3. If it is a bunch of crap newspaper, then why would the IDF link to it on their site? I have lived there and know this.
119 posted on 02/02/2003 10:20:00 PM PST by yonif
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I concede the point.
120 posted on 02/02/2003 10:20:25 PM PST by Jhoffa_ (A Shrubbery!)
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