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Gen. Eric Shinseki, U.S. Army chief, visits India
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Posted on 02/03/2003 5:42:27 PM PST by chance33_98



Gen. Eric Shinseki, U.S. Army chief, visits India

Gen. Eric Shinseki became the first U.S. Army chief to visit India Monday on a visit that will take him up to the disputed Kashmir frontier for briefings on Pakistan-backed infiltration, rising ominously again despite the winter weather. His Indian hosts, who include Defense Minister George Fernandes, are also pushing an unusual request.

India has traditionally come under the Pentagon's Pacific Command (a U.S. Navy fief) while Pakistan comes under Central Command (run by the U.S. Army). India wants to come under the Central Command system because of its strategic priorities over Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Arab world and Persian Gulf in general, and it also wants to bring Army and Air Force co-operation with the United States up to the high level of the naval links, where joint exercises are now routine.

A highly realistic joint training exercise is now being planned for later this year between F-15s of the U.S. Air Force and India's Russian-supplied Su-30.


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1 posted on 02/03/2003 5:42:27 PM PST by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Jeez, this corndog is still around? After the black beret debacle, this wanker should have been dumped immediately. This guy is supposed to be the best of the best? Don't make me vomit, please!
2 posted on 02/03/2003 5:48:03 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Rumsfeld has already announced his replacement, more than a year in advance. That is considered an inch short of outright dismissal.
3 posted on 02/03/2003 5:59:10 PM PST by kylaka
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To: kylaka
I can only hope, as someone who is forced to wear the black beret that was stolen from the Rangers, I can only hope that Gen. Shinsecki's replacement reverses the beret thing and we go back to wearing our old hats again. BTW, who is his replacement? I didn't hear.
4 posted on 02/03/2003 6:18:11 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH! Not just a word, A way of life!)
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To: kylaka
Right on. Sounds good to me!
5 posted on 02/03/2003 6:44:34 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: chance33_98
Hope they keep him. We don't want him back.
6 posted on 02/03/2003 7:01:44 PM PST by OldFriend (SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH)
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To: chance33_98
Good ol' Eric "Black Beret" (made in China!) Shinseki - what a guy!
7 posted on 02/03/2003 7:15:38 PM PST by Redbob
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To: chance33_98
There are two serious flaws in this article and its analysis. Under current DOD organization, the four Joint Chiefs (the Chiefs of Staff of the Army and Air Force, the Chief of Naval Operations, and the Commandant of the Marine Corps) have no power outside their own separate services. Theatre commanders (including USPACOM and USCENTCOM) report directly to the Chairman, who answers to the Secretary of Defense and the President. If General Shinseki is kicking around on Pacific Command turf, he is there at Admiral Fargo's pleasure and doing the bidding of the Secretary of Defense.

Also, while the article correctly notes that US Pacific Command is traditionally commanded by a Navy admiral, it mistakenly refers to Central Command as Army-run. Command of USCENTCOM has alternated between Army and Marine Corps generals since its inception. But the distinctions are meaningless, as these combat commands are so thoroughly Joint in their staff compositions and practices that the service branch of any given commander is irrelevant.

Those distinctions aside, there might be good reason to shift India into USCENTCOM's Area of Responsibility. Most compelling is the perpetual Indo-Pakistani faceoff which makes for a confusing strategic boundary. On the other hand, India's expanding blue-water navy will have a growing impact on USPACOM interests. It's a tough decision, but one that will be made by Mr. Rumsfeld.

8 posted on 02/03/2003 7:16:44 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: chance33_98
Was this jackass wearing his rasberry beret?
9 posted on 02/03/2003 7:16:45 PM PST by dennisw ( <Nemo Me Impune Lacessit> http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: txradioguy
That (his replacement), I do not know. Just about anyone in the Pentagon would know though.
10 posted on 02/03/2003 7:20:54 PM PST by kylaka
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To: AM2000; Aaron_A; atc; swarthyguy; Dog Gone
Info Bump!
11 posted on 02/03/2003 7:28:01 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Always A Marine
Very informative!
12 posted on 02/03/2003 7:59:35 PM PST by mikeIII
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To: chance33_98; SLB; Squantos; Wally Cleaver; harpseal; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; Miss Marple; ...
I heard a strange rumor today. I heard that General Shinseki would be running for the US Senate seat in his native state of Hawaii beginning this Spring/Summer when he retires. I'm not sure if there is anything to it, but I was surprised when a semi-connected person told me this today.
13 posted on 02/03/2003 8:05:26 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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14 posted on 02/03/2003 9:34:07 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
he is a great man. Yeah, he made a mistake about the beret, but that is superficial. He is a great leader and soldier.

Just wish he could win some of the pentagon battles.
15 posted on 02/03/2003 9:36:32 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: Fred Mertz; All
From 1999: ON STATUS OF FORCES

Vision

Last week at the annual meeting of the Association of the United States Army, Secretary Caldera and I announced a vision for the future of the Army. I want to take a moment to share with you a part of that vision, a copy of which you have all received and which, with your permission, I would like to insert in the record today.

Our goal is to be able to deploy a combat-capable brigade anywhere in the world within 96 hours after receipt of an order to execute liftoff, a division within 120 hours, and five divisions in 30 days. These forces will be light enough to deploy, lethal enough to fight and win, survivable enough to return safely home. They will be versatile enough to make peace or fight wars. They will be agile enough to transition from peacemaking to warfighting and back again quickly. And they will be lean and efficient enough to sustain themselves whatever the mission.

The Army will begin now to achieve the following vision: "Soldiers on point for the Nation transforming the most respected Army in the world into a strategically responsive force that is dominant across the full spectrum of operations." It will give the National Command Authorityies the ability to respond to crises, to engage to deter conflict, to fight and win decisively, and to maintain the peace thereafter.

This commitment to change will require a comprehensive transformation of the Army. We must begin soon. To this end, we will begin immediately to turn the entire Army into a full spectrum force that is strategically responsive and dominant at every point on the spectrum of operations. We will jump start this process by investing in today's "off-the-shelf" equipment to stimulate the development of doctrine, organizational design, and leader training even as we begin a search for the new technologies that will deliver the material needed for the objective force. As quickly as we can, we will acquire vehicle prototypes, in order to stand up the first units at Fort Lewis, Washington, where the infrastructure, maneuver space, and gunnery ranges will accommodate such a transformation. It is our intent to have an initial set of prototype vehicles beginning to arrive at Fort Lewis this fiscal year. Other units will follow in the near future. Thus, the need to move quickly could necessitate some reprogramming decisions in the fiscal year 2000 Budget. We will keep the lines of communication with Congress open and we look forward to your continued support.

Conclusion

In summary, through the cooperative efforts of the Administration and Congress this year, we have charted a new direction. We have ended 13 consecutive years of declining buying power. The Army is trained and ready. Your soldiers are on point for the Nation in a dangerous world, executing their missions ably and well. I am proud of the job they are doing.

Still, the Army is stretched and struggling to meet the requirements that our National Security Strategy places upon it. Our operations tempo is 300 percent of our Cold War average, despite a decline across the Army of 34 percent of end strength. Some pressing requirements have still not been met. There is still a mismatch between the requirements we have identified and the resources we have.

The vision that we have articulated is an attempt to plot a course that will allow us to meet urgent capabilities needs. It allows us to begin now to build a force that is more strategically deployable, one that can arrive at trouble spots quickly, engage as necessary, and be dominant across the spectrum of operations. It is a plan for today and a roadmap into the future. We hope that we will have your help and support in implementing this vision for an Army that will continue to be the finest land force in the far into the next century.

16 posted on 02/03/2003 9:39:17 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: chance33_98
I believe he has half a foot from a mine or battle injury in Vietnam. I've met him and he seems okay in my book.
17 posted on 02/03/2003 9:40:28 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I would hate to judge him simply by the whole beret thing, a search of http://www.google.com/unclesam finds some governemnt documents worth reading over. When I posted this I did not even equate that he was the one behind the berets - I posted it in tandem with another post I did on Israel to train Indian special forces - I posted both articles back to back as I thought it of interest.

I will leave it up to those who work under him at this point as I don't know enough about the man yet (though I am looking).

18 posted on 02/03/2003 9:46:34 PM PST by chance33_98 (Freedom is not Free)
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To: OldCorps
MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS

Distinguished Service Medal
Legion of Merit (with oak leaf cluster)

http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~singledm/USEC/shinseki.html
19 posted on 02/03/2003 10:14:55 PM PST by razorback-bert
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The Chief of the U.S. Army, Eric. K. Shinseki, being received by his Indian counterpart, Nirmal Chander Vij, in New Delhi on Monday. — Photo: Anu Pushkarna

TheHindu--- www.hinduonnet.com/ NEW DELHI FEB. 3. Eric K. Shinseki, the first United States Army chief to visit India, was today extensively briefed about the continuing Pakistan support to infiltration across the Line of Control (LoC).

The Chief of the U.S. Army was first informed about the precarious security situation in Jammu and Kashmir and then about the developing security concerns in the East during an hour-long audio-visual briefing in the War Room in South Block.

Similar concerns were shared during his one-to-one interaction with his Indian counterpart, N.C. Vij, who has repeatedly dealt with this problem in Jammu and Kashmir.

Besides serving extensively in the rugged terrain of Jammu and Kashmir, Gen. Vij was directly involved during the brief but bloody Pakistani endeavour to alter the LoC in Kargil in 1999 as the Army's Director General of Military Operations.

Gen. Shinseki also interacted with the Chairman, Chief of Staff Committee, and Naval chief, Madhvendra Singh, and the newly appointed Vice-Chief of the Air Staff, M. Macmahon. He also called on the Defence Minister, George Fernandes. Accompanied by a 14-member delegation and his wife, he leaves early tomorrow for the Philippines. The U.S. Army chief had arrived here on Sunday evening.

20 posted on 02/03/2003 10:28:58 PM PST by swarthyguy
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