Republican versus Democrats?

[hoot2]

"For starters: You can't vote if you are not an Citizen of the United States. "

unless you're an "illegal mexican alien",
come to kalifornica, any way you can,...
motor-voter was written for you.

[weikel]

Dems are a communist front organization. Republicans are too left wing for me but I support them because the dems are far worse.

[EternalVigilance]

This is the same old juvenile rap that claims that 'government shouldn't legislate morality'...which is simply a cover for those who want to do what they want no matter how it does harm to others or society.

It's utterly ridiculous.

The problem with those who pursue this line of reasoning is that they have lost sight of the simple difference between good and evil.

You have still, like the other gentleman, avoided the two key questions:

A) Do you believe in 'Original Intent'?

and...

B) Would even one of the Founders, much less all of them assembled in Congress, have approved of any sort of pornography as being covered under the First Amendment to the Constitution?

[Djarum]

The rule of constitutional law was to be followed, and a jury was to decide if that law was violated.

Then we would have a government by the people, i.e. anarchy. Why take that risk when career politicians can act as loving parents, deciding what is best for the childrenpeople.

[WorkingClassFilth]

In the general context of today's society and the platforms of the Parties...

Republicans, in the pursuit of liberty, serve themselves and by virtue of their creativity, thrift and drive they generally benefit all of society. Depending on the individual, this can have bad, good or indifferent impacts on society and, coupled with a respect for the laws of the Republic and laws of morality, it is a good thing. In general, Republicans believe the state should yield to the Constitutional rights of the individual.

Democrats, in irrational pursuit of a utopian society, essentially serve Satan. They seek to supress individualism and promote collectivism at the expense of individual achievement, dreams and happiness. In place of freedom, they substitute enslavement to vice and depravity as tokens of personal freedom. In place of achievement and distinction, they stress the collective notion of equality which robs motivation, punishes success and rewards sloth. In general, the Democrat believes that the individual's rights are merely privileges granted by benevolent government and that government must dominate and control the lives of individuals for the sake of artificial equality and redistribution of private wealth. The motives for these tyrannical impulses vary with the individual collectivist as some are altruistic, some are zealots, some have genetic disorders, some are slaves to perversion and many are just plain fools.

[TradicalRC]

Succint and perfect.

[Nick Danger]

If you believe that human beings basically stumble through life, and are limited in their ability to truly understand complex systems like human societies, the ecosphere, how a ten-trillion dollar economy actually works... then you have respect for those things as the product of a whole bunch of trial-and-error that no one really understands, and you will probably end up a Republican.

If you believe that human beings are masters of the universe and can design, change, and adapt complex systems like societal arrangements, economies, the ecosphere, etc., virtually at will to make things better, then you will probably end up a Democrat.

[hoot2]

"If you don't mind me asking, how is a 2.2 Trillion budget limited goverment? "

hey, they kept it almost 8 trillion under the 10 trillion cap!!!
where do you think it would be if hitlery was prez?
8 trillion....thats a lotta cheese

[Tench_Coxe]

Actually, it depends. Is killing someone in premeditated, cold blood 'evil'? Is a company that intentionally misrepresents its earnings to shareholders 'evil'?

One has to be carful about how terms are thrown around. While I disagree that government is to provide a 'moral framework' ( it is not the government's role to instill morality, that is the role of family, religion, and tradition ), government does need to provide a framework ( minimal )in which society can function. For example: the officers of the company should be prosecuted to the fullest for committing fraud, and the cold blooded killer should be removed from society because his/her continued presence threatens the ability of individuals to go about their daily lives.

[desertcry]

Very good comparison WSG, I could not have done any better, if I tried.

[txradioguy]

To expound a little on what you said.


Republicans generally believe in peoples self worth and the ability of a person to make something on their own with as little govenrment interference as possible. And that every person, no matter what race, religon, or lifestyle has the same equal chance to succeed.


Democrats, especially the Clinton, Daschle, Pelosi variety, Believe that a person can only make something of themselves and have what they have in their lives with the help of the federal government. And that every person, no matter what race, religon, or lifestyle can ONLY succeed if they have special laws, regulations and set asides provided to them by the federal government.

[txradioguy]

"True conservatives are the Constitution Party or the Libertarian Party, depending on whether you think recreational drug use should be legal or not."


This ad paid for by the Harry Browne in 2004 campaign fund. Neal Boortz treasurer.

[hoot2]

"BS. - Show me where fed/state/local government has the power to decree anything 'evil'. "

ten commandments, guns, hetrosexual marriage, fathers, white males, suv's, boy scouts, christians....
is that enough?

[txradioguy]

"Republicans are too left wing for me but I support them because the dems are far worse."



If the GOP is too left wing for you, I'm scared to think what what a "true conservative" is in your viewpoint.

[DaBroasta]

Republicans are optimists, Democrats are pessimists. Republicans believe that hardworking individuals can achieve anything they set their mind to sans government intervention. The democrats believe that people are inherently lazy and stupid and that no one can make on their own it without the government being involved. Republicans believe that when a gun is used to kill or maim innocent people the social deviant that pulled the trigger is responsible and should be punished. Democrats believe that when an innocent person is killed or maimed by a gun wielded by a convicted felon on parole, that the gun he used is the problem and the manufacturer of it should be punished. Republicans believe that child molesters and groups like NAMBLA have no place on earth let alone in America while the dems see them as a cause celeb and key constituency. I could go on ad nauseam but you get the idea.

[UnBlinkingEye]

Karsus

If you don't mind me asking, how is a 2.2 Trillion budget limited goverment?

ProudGOP It isn't. But remember, the Democrats have spent the money for most of the last 40 years. It won't get better for a long time. Maybe never...

ProudGOP, What are you proud of? Both parties are proponents of globalism, big government and ignoring the Constitution. Shouldn't we all be ashamed and invigorated to fight the corruption and restore our Rights?

[tpaine]

Their understanding of liberty was the liberty to do good, which never ever included any 'right' of government to decree what was 'evil'. The rule of constitutional law was to be followed, and a jury was to decide if that law was violated. -tpaine-

"Bilge." -ev-

BS. - Show me where fed/state/local government has the power to decree anything 'evil'. 60 tpaine

This is the same old juvenile rap that claims that 'government shouldn't legislate morality'...which is simply a cover for those who want to do what they want no matter how it does harm to others or society. It's utterly ridiculous. The problem with those who pursue this line of reasoning is that they have lost sight of the simple difference between good and evil.

Nice little opinionated rant, but no answer to my question. - Can you come up with one?

You have still, like the other gentleman, avoided the two key questions:
A) Do you believe in 'Original Intent'?

Weird that you imagine I was asked that, and weirder still that you would imagine that I don't. -- Original constitutional intent is quite clearly worded, and thus, ~you~ are unable to find the words to answer my guestion:
Can you show me where fed/state/local government has the power to decree anything 'evil'?

and...
B) Would even one of the Founders, much less all of them assembled in Congress, have approved of any sort of pornography as being covered under the First Amendment to the Constitution?

Then, as now, the regulation of the commercial & public aspects of sexuality was left up to local standards & ~reasonable~ controls.
-- Regs which do not violate other inalienable rights to life, liberty, or property.

Simple republican concept really. To bad most Rinos have such problems understanding it.

[txradioguy]

Come down off the Libertarian holier-than-thou. This kid is legitimately trying to find out about the two MAJOR political parties in this country. Instead of preaching and making vague black helicopter theories about "Globalization". Present him with a manifesto of what the LP'ers stand for. Let the facts of what your party stands for stand on their own.

[sneakers]

Hi Craig1972:
I'll take a shot at this!
Republicans respect the rights of the individual and have faith that he/she can determine their own course in life. We believe that, in this country of great freedom and resources, most people can take advantage of the many opportunities available to them here to make a living, be prosperous, and choose to live as they want. We believe that government is there to enforce laws, uphold the constitution of the US and protect the people of this country - no more, no less. We believe that, to ask the government to fulfill our every desire and need is to be a slave to that government. We believe that government should be small. We believe that all people - regardless of color, are capable of great things and can achieve them with hard work, dedication and by taking advantage of the opportunities available to them. We don't belive in "group think". We would rather think individually rather than as a group. We don't need a union to speak for us, or a certain ethnic or racial group. We believe that, when business and industry is strong and successful, and not taxed to death, that that prosperity is shared in the form of jobs and that everybody benefits.

What do Democrats believe? (I was a Democrat for many years)
They believe that government is there to take care of people. They believe that certain groups are less able to take care of themselves than others. They don't have faith that people can make their own decisions about how to spend their money, or take care of themselves and their families. Their idealogy is insulting to minorities because they try to convince them that they cannot take care of themselves. They think government should be bigger, and that it should play a bigger role in people's lives. They believe that giving people money is the answer to all their problems instead of encouraging them to work hard to earn it themselves. They promote class envy by pitting rich against poor. They penalize success and encourage dependence. They believe that government should control education from the federal level instead of the local level. They are a party of "groups" - i.e. - unions, feminists, minorities, gays, African-American, Hispanic etc. They believe in "diversity", but only succeed in separating people. They believe that the government can take care of your children better than you can.

There is so much more. However, see post 24 - that says it even better!

[EternalVigilance]

To bad most Rinos have such problems understanding it.

I take it you are referring to me? You are a hoot.

Libertarians presuming to define who is a Republican? What's next, Islamists attempting to dictate whether someone is a Israeli or not?

Your post above is a total twisting of my words, and I won't even make the attempt to separate my words from your strange additions to my words...it isn't worth the effort. Sane people reading can read what I wrote and come to their own conclusions.

They can also make their judgement whether they agree with your obvious belief that pornography should be protected under the First Amendment.

Obviously you don't have a clue as to how much damage has been done by that evil industry to the hearts and minds and families of America. And the fault lies chiefly with those who do exactly what you are doing.